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Post by Lord Death Man on Apr 27, 2019 17:21:08 GMT
What exactly are the details of Cap's marriage to Peggy? Did he use an alias (and everyone in the SSR pretended not to notice this guy looks and sounds exactly like Steve Rogers) or did they marry in secret and Steve hid in her basement for 70 years? Conversely, was he openly Captain America in this timeline, married to Peggy Carter and continued his hero career? Those are your two options, and while the former is absurd the latter would cause enormous changes to the timeline-- and it would've been established history in that world that Sam wouldn't need to ask about. This is the only facet of the supposed broken timeline that intrigues me. There are actually far more than two options. The timeline is horribly mangled and, I think its for the best. The MCU can move forward without any of the temporal nitpicking the fans are so fond of, everything is happening in a "relative now" and you need only be concerned with before and after.
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Post by merh on Apr 27, 2019 17:57:24 GMT
Same here... I seem to remember hearing that she has a movie that's been green-lighted.... ...unless that was an intentional misdirect. I heard it's a prequel. And if it does well... Oops
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Post by merh on Apr 27, 2019 18:03:44 GMT
Did she arrive with Thanos’ forces? I don’t remember. If she didn’t, then she’s still dead from when Thanos killed her, at least in the main timeline. But past timeline Gamora came to the present timeline and helped present timeline Nebula. Then the last we see of her is kicking Quill in the nutsack. I didn't see her at Stark's funeral, and Quill was looking sadly at a hologram of her on his ship. I was thinking maybe she died again on the battlefield and I somehow missed it. Just seems strange to essentially bring her back, only for her to just drop out of the story. Tony wouldnt have seen her working with Nebula enough to differentiate her out of the snap.
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Post by hobowar on Apr 27, 2019 18:08:53 GMT
And if it does well... Oops
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Post by merh on Apr 27, 2019 20:06:05 GMT
And if it does well... Oops Cap/Thor fangirl, remember? My sister spoiled the whole thing for me like a week ago . Widow was the one thing I wish she hadn't though it wouldn't change anything. My kid's reaction as we left the theater? This is near at the bottom of the Marvel pile. Hated what they did with Widow, Cap & Thor & I agree. Did the Russos never watch Thor? Remember Fandral berating Volstagg over eating a huge amount of food? For Thor to be in that shape AND remain it would take a huge amount of food, not just beer. Asgardian metabolism is wildly different from regular humans. Wonder how many calories summoning lightning burns? We saw Peggy pine for Steve in her series & in Winter Soldier.. So now those adventures from her series never happened? That was Jarvis from her show. I'll buy Loki escaped to a new reality, but he travels between dimensions like it is nothing. He wouldn't show up to laugh at Thor?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 27, 2019 20:45:10 GMT
Saw it
Liked it fine
I was surprised it did not carry the emotional wallop I thought given the early reviews. I thought the 3 big ones were going to die and only one of them did and the loss wasn't so much a surprise as it was contracts being fulfilled which makes the loss hollow even if the send off to Tony was great.
I think overall the most emotional scenes are:
1. Hawkey losing his family 2. Ant-Man finding out his daughter is alive 3. Tony meeting his father although it went on too long and felt like the closure moment between them was forced just to conclude it. 4. Steve seeing Peggy
While I like time travel movies, I despise them for ever trying to explain it as an actual doable thing. Time travel is a McGuffin for story progress and it's pointless to expand it beyond that. This movie spent too much time on the time heist.
The final battle was ridiculous and especially since it's really the only main action scene in the film. So many things made no sense whatsoever although Tony being the one to take care of Thanos was very well done.
It sounds like I hated it. I didn't. I'm discussing at most 45 minutes to an hour of stuff.
It's a solid B to B+
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Apr 27, 2019 20:47:10 GMT
Well Phase 4 just got a hell lot more interesting!
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Post by merh on Apr 27, 2019 21:46:01 GMT
I always wanted a body like Thor and I finally got it. Will you buy the action figure? They make money off toys. Think that's selling? I just dropped $100 on t-shirts from Hot Topic's buy 2 get one free. 1 of Goose. The rest Thor. Infinity War shirts. The Endgame shirts were boring. Now we know why. They only have like 10 minutes to use for him. Whedon joked he loved knocking Asgardians off screen. Look what the Russos do. Intimidated much?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 28, 2019 2:51:18 GMT
Something worth mentioning: The appearance of Jarvis, played by the same actor reprising the role from the Agent Carter series. Has there been another character to make the leap from the tv shows to the films? (Not counting characters who appeared in the films first.)
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Post by merh on Apr 28, 2019 3:29:18 GMT
Something worth mentioning: The appearance of Jarvis, played by the same actor reprising the role from the Agent Carter series. Has there been another character to make the leap from the tv shows to the films? (Not counting characters who appeared in the films first.) Someone thought the guy that played Foggy on the Netflix series was in the circle Cap was leading
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Post by darkpast on Apr 28, 2019 5:49:01 GMT
IRON MAN DIES!!!!!spoilers so that was joke that happened?
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Post by sostie on Apr 28, 2019 8:17:50 GMT
Couple of things I've seen online that I either missed or didn't click when I first saw the film....
A report of "a massive seismic incident has occurred along the ocean floor". Namor related perhaps?
Howard The Duck appears out of one of the portals during the final battle. He can be seen behind Wasp when she appears!
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Post by merh on Apr 28, 2019 9:24:52 GMT
Couple of things I've seen online that I either missed or didn't click when I first saw the film.... A report of "a massive seismic incident has occurred along the ocean floor". Namor related perhaps? Howard The Duck appears out of one of the portals during the final battle. He can be seen behind Wasp when she appears! Yeah, the seismic bit is Okoye reporting to Widow. They are all talking. Okoye reports it. Widow says check it out. Okoye seems offended, that it's an eaethquake on the ocean floor, why bother? This leads into Rhodey reporting on Hawkeye, doesn't it? There were too many people pouring out of the portals to see them all. Probably someone just happened to catch that. I think the biggest cheer in my theater was the Wakandans & Spidey.
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Post by poutinep on Apr 28, 2019 18:09:01 GMT
Should Tony have been able to survive? He didn't do what Thanos or Bruce did. They both affected trillions of people throughout the universe with their snaps. Tony only dusted...let's say tens of thousands of people maybe 100k - within a mile. Waaay smaller scale...but maybe that shouldn't matter... or maybe that's why the puny human lasted as long as he did. Something else that interests me is Red Skull's greetings. "Thanos, son of A'Lars." His father who presumably raised him... "Gamora, daughter of Thanos." Adoptive father, stole her from her family and raised her (for his own ends)... "Clint, son of Edith." Only mother he mentions...presumably a single mother for at least most of Clint's childhood. "Natasha, daughter of Ivan." Well for one, her 'real' name is Natalia... but he also said 'Clint' instead of his real name Clinton so I guess he's not entirely formal... More importantly, she said she didn't know his name, so he didn't raise her... I guess people in her assassin program did, or maybe multiple people did and no one person rated high enough for Red Skull to deem mentioning. He could have mentioned her mother but she must not have raised Nat much either if at all...
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 28, 2019 18:18:16 GMT
Why do we have a spoiler thread when all the other threads are full of spoilers?
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Post by poutinep on Apr 28, 2019 18:28:48 GMT
Why do we have a spoiler thread when all the other threads are full of spoilers? Instead of asking that here you could go into those threads and say 'Hey asshole we have a thread for this!'
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Post by Nora on Apr 28, 2019 22:13:42 GMT
So what does everyone think of Cap using Mjolnir to fight Thanos? was not a fan of that. it provided for some humor yes but he shouldnt have been able to use it like this.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 0:43:15 GMT
So here's a thing. And it doesn't really bother me as such, it's just something that's been rolling round my head about the movie.
Half the world's population is gone, and has been for five years.
It can be safely assumed that the world did not keep producing the current level of food. Farmers are not going to keep growing X amount, only for 50% of that amount to be thrown away. So half of the fields would be left to return to nature, half of the animals would be sold off, destroyed, or just not replaced as they are eaten. Likewise, the excess infrastructure for distributing and selling that food would be allowed to wither away. Everything from fertiliser production to the harvester machines that gather crops, the slaughterhouses that kill animals, not to mention the trucks that transport food from farms to processing, and then distribute the food out to supermarkets. And the supermarkets themselves. Fifty percent of all of that will be closed down.
And all this stuff will not be in storage, preserved and ready to go - most of the physical infrastructure would be sold off to other industries, though probably not because every industry would have the same problem. So it will either be scrapped, or simply abandoned and left to rot.
And it's not just the food system. A LOT of infrastructure would no longer be needed. Schools, hospitals, etc - half of them would be closed down, their remaining staff merged into other facilities. Buses, trains, you name it - scrapped or just left to rot. Even houses would suffer this. There are cities right now in the US suffering from declining population, and whole sections of them are left to rot. And within a few years the abandoned neighbourhoods are falling apart, many of them have been stripped of stuff like copper, etc.
Now all of a sudden, all those missing people are back. But... there's no infrastructure for them. There's not enough food. There's not enough accommodation. There's not enough schools, or hospitals, or transport, or anything. After a day or so of celebration, it would turn into an absolute global disaster.
Enjoy your returning families, everyone. Because a large portion of the returned people are going to starve to death in a few weeks.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 29, 2019 0:52:51 GMT
So here's a thing. And it doesn't really bother me as such, it's just something that's been rolling round my head about the movie. Half the world's population is gone, and has been for five years. It can be safely assumed that the world did not keep producing the current level of food. Farmers are not going to keep growing X amount, only for 50% of that amount to be thrown away. So half of the fields would be left to return to nature, half of the animals would be sold off, destroyed, or just not replaced as they are eaten. Likewise, the excess infrastructure for distributing and selling that food would be allowed to wither away. Everything from fertiliser production to the harvester machines that gather crops, the slaughterhouses that kill animals, not to mention the trucks that transport food from farms to processing, and then distribute the food out to supermarkets. And the supermarkets themselves. Fifty percent of all of that will be closed down. And all this stuff will not be in storage, preserved and ready to go - most of the physical infrastructure would be sold off to other industries, though probably not because every industry would have the same problem. So it will either be scrapped, or simply abandoned and left to rot. And it's not just the food system. A LOT of infrastructure would no longer be needed. Schools, hospitals, etc - half of them would be closed down, their remaining staff merged into other facilities. Buses, trains, you name it - scrapped or just left to rot. Even houses would suffer this. There are cities right now in the US suffering from declining population, and whole sections of them are left to rot. And within a few years the abandoned neighbourhoods are falling apart, many of them have been stripped of stuff like copper, etc. Now all of a sudden, all those missing people are back. But... there's no infrastructure for them. There's not enough food. There's not enough accommodation. There's not enough schools, or hospitals, or transport, or anything. After a day or so of celebration, it would turn into an absolute global disaster. Enjoy your returning families, everyone. Because a large portion of the returned people are going to starve to death in a few weeks. well half of all life returned as well which they referred to when AntMan saw more birds after Hulk snap. So in theory the cattle and other food sources also came back as well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 1:01:15 GMT
So here's a thing. And it doesn't really bother me as such, it's just something that's been rolling round my head about the movie. Half the world's population is gone, and has been for five years. It can be safely assumed that the world did not keep producing the current level of food. Farmers are not going to keep growing X amount, only for 50% of that amount to be thrown away. So half of the fields would be left to return to nature, half of the animals would be sold off, destroyed, or just not replaced as they are eaten. Likewise, the excess infrastructure for distributing and selling that food would be allowed to wither away. Everything from fertiliser production to the harvester machines that gather crops, the slaughterhouses that kill animals, not to mention the trucks that transport food from farms to processing, and then distribute the food out to supermarkets. And the supermarkets themselves. Fifty percent of all of that will be closed down. And all this stuff will not be in storage, preserved and ready to go - most of the physical infrastructure would be sold off to other industries, though probably not because every industry would have the same problem. So it will either be scrapped, or simply abandoned and left to rot. And it's not just the food system. A LOT of infrastructure would no longer be needed. Schools, hospitals, etc - half of them would be closed down, their remaining staff merged into other facilities. Buses, trains, you name it - scrapped or just left to rot. Even houses would suffer this. There are cities right now in the US suffering from declining population, and whole sections of them are left to rot. And within a few years the abandoned neighbourhoods are falling apart, many of them have been stripped of stuff like copper, etc. Now all of a sudden, all those missing people are back. But... there's no infrastructure for them. There's not enough food. There's not enough accommodation. There's not enough schools, or hospitals, or transport, or anything. After a day or so of celebration, it would turn into an absolute global disaster. Enjoy your returning families, everyone. Because a large portion of the returned people are going to starve to death in a few weeks. well half of all life returned as well which they referred to when AntMan saw more birds after Hulk snap. So in theory the cattle and other food sources also came back as well. That's quite nonsensical. The whole point of the snap was to reduce the population of people so that the resources would leave those remaining better off. But if you wipe out half the people and simultaneously half the plants and animals, you're basically leaving them in the same place as they were before, at least with regards to anything biological. I don't think the snap included plants and animals, because it doesn't make sense that it would. Even if it did, though, it wouldn't help all that much. Crops have to be gathered, processed, and distributed. There wouldn't be enough infrastructure to do it.
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