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Post by charzhino on Apr 30, 2019 15:43:52 GMT
spoilers
Endgame is an inferior ripoff of xmen days of future past.
Lets see, Endgame uses time travel where heroes are sent to the past to bring changes needed to fix a dystopian future. Hmm sounds familiar. DC fans protesting Russos ripped off Snyders original Flash timetravel plot that never materialised need to take a back seat; more blatantly Russo’s have ripped of xmen days of future past, yet still managed to make an inferior movie with twice the budget lmao Thor is the substitute for Xavier, the broken man that has lost everything. Look at how they’ve disgraced poor Thor again, made him into a 3hr running fat joke. Didn’t I say MCU loves to humiliate its own characters for cheap laughs? Yea it was funny the first 2 minutes when hes fat and playing fortnite but they kept with the gag for 3 hrs lmao
Same with ‘’professor hulk’’ , turned into a friendly green giant comedian who dabs lol. Bring back Joss Whedon atleast he knew how to make Banner/Hulk and Thor real intelligent macho characters and not the wimpy versions we have now. Didn’t I also say if Disney made DOFP we would see Xaviers struggle watered down, well endgame is the proof. Xavier would be the same as dude-bro thor, treated as a throwaway puppet for cheesy humour. No emotional depth to his arc. Hasn’t it been declared again and again that Disney cannot handle compelling adult themes, they need to keep it light for the kids.
EGs time heist plot is also inferior from a conceptual POV. No tension as Stark figures out a way to access bottles worth of pym particles so they can hop through time with ease. No more one try only, unlike DOFP where logan has limited time before sentinels find kitty and game over. The 2nd act timetravel in ENDGAME is solely driven by nostalgic callbacks, pop culture references and easter egg fan service - not story or character driven (with the one exception of Black Widow/Hawkeye quest).
And this is without even mentioning the long list of gaping plot holes and the messy continuity that’s resulted from Russos poor writing on full display once again. No moreso than the contrived ending of Stark being killed. He takes the stones from Thanos (why can his earth based metal glove hold the power of the infinity stones, when Thanos needed to go to Nidavellir to forge his gaunlet from the fusion energy of a star) – so why cannot Stark tell Scarlet witch to freeze hold Thanos in the air, like she did a minute before, and ask one of the hundreds of mystics to use portals to cut Thanos in half? The death of stark isn’t earned and makes no sense, it’s just thrown in because the plot demanded he die.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 30, 2019 15:50:32 GMT
Lazy effort on your part, 2/10.
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Post by charzhino on Apr 30, 2019 15:57:22 GMT
Lazy effort on your part, 2/10. You know I am right. The parralels are all there, its a blatant ripoff using Thor as the Xavier broken man archetype. You just cant answer.
Tell me, why are journalists praising Thors supposed ''ptsd'' when all it is reduced to jokes and fat gags. Where was the praise for Xaviers ptsd performance?
And why can Starks metal glove hold the whole infinity gems when weve seen in previous MCU movies like GOTG that any 1 ordinary person who tries to touch just 1 infinity stone will get immediatly annhilated as happened in gotg 1 in the Collectors lab?
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Apr 30, 2019 16:01:43 GMT
Hobowar that wasn't necessary.
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Post by hobowar on Apr 30, 2019 16:03:48 GMT
Sorry I couldn't help myself.
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Post by scabab on Apr 30, 2019 16:05:32 GMT
Lazy effort on your part, 2/10. It's more effort when people post a YouTube video to give their opinions.
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Post by kuatorises on Apr 30, 2019 16:09:21 GMT
Hobowar that wasn't necessary. But the OP's fake attempt at a conversation is? I don't know what Hobo said, but you deleted it, yet you fake ass mods don't do dick about the rampant trolling here. Fuck your lectures if you aren't going to do anything about the state of this board.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 30, 2019 16:26:59 GMT
Lazy effort on your part, 2/10. You know I am right. The parralels are all there, its a blatant ripoff using Thor as the Xavier broken man archetype. You just cant answer.
Tell me, why are journalists praising Thors supposed ''ptsd'' when all it is reduced to jokes and fat gags. Where was the praise for Xaviers ptsd performance?
And why can Starks metal glove hold the whole infinity gems when weve seen in previous MCU movies like GOTG that any 1 ordinary person who tries to touch just 1 infinity stone will get immediatly annhilated as happened in gotg 1 in the Collectors lab?
I'll do you one better. How the hell does Jane Foster survive ingesting an Infinity Stone? Who cares? All I know is that Endgame is superior to DOFP, and all of the usual online sources agree with me. By all means, keep complaining. It's definitely affecting our enjoyment of the films as well as their critical and financial success.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Apr 30, 2019 16:34:32 GMT
Hobowar that wasn't necessary. But the OP's fake attempt at a conversation is? I don't know what Hobo said, but you deleted it, yet you fake ass mods don't do dick about the rampant trolling here. Fuck your lectures if you aren't going to do anything about the state of this board. Reported.
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Post by scabab on Apr 30, 2019 16:37:44 GMT
But the OP's fake attempt at a conversation is? I don't know what Hobo said, but you deleted it, yet you fake ass mods don't do dick about the rampant trolling here. Fuck your lectures if you aren't going to do anything about the state of this board. You're being overly sensitive. Theres nothing wrong with this topic, he has his issues and he explained them, that's not trolling. Trolling would be if he made the topic and all it contained was "Lol this movie sux and is a kiddie ripoff of X-Men DOFP". Don't mistake criticism for trolling.
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Post by bud47 on Apr 30, 2019 16:47:40 GMT
I can just picture you squirming in your seat with your hate goggles on watching this film, looking to tear it apart piece by piece. You were going to hate this film no matter what. Yet you still forced yourself to see it. All just so you can come here, complain and be part of the conversation. Who does that? At least Disney got your money and you wasted 3 hours of your life. Good job.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 30, 2019 16:49:41 GMT
But the OP's fake attempt at a conversation is? I don't know what Hobo said, but you deleted it, yet you fake ass mods don't do dick about the rampant trolling here. Fuck your lectures if you aren't going to do anything about the state of this board. You're being overly sensitive. Theres nothing wrong with this topic, he has his issues and he explained them, that's not trolling. Trolling would be if he made the topic and all it contained was "Lol this movie sux and is a kiddie ripoff of X-Men DOFP". Don't mistake criticism for trolling. Let's be honest, it's definitely trolling at this point. But I'm fine with it as long as he's being somewhat constructive with his criticism. It's better than his "Nick Fury is gay because he likes cats," thread.
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Post by charzhino on Apr 30, 2019 17:01:37 GMT
You know I am right. The parralels are all there, its a blatant ripoff using Thor as the Xavier broken man archetype. You just cant answer.
Tell me, why are journalists praising Thors supposed ''ptsd'' when all it is reduced to jokes and fat gags. Where was the praise for Xaviers ptsd performance?
And why can Starks metal glove hold the whole infinity gems when weve seen in previous MCU movies like GOTG that any 1 ordinary person who tries to touch just 1 infinity stone will get immediatly annhilated as happened in gotg 1 in the Collectors lab?
I'll do you one better. How the hell does Jane Foster survive ingesting an Infinity Stone? Who cares? All I know is that Endgame is superior to DOFP, and all of the usual online sources agree with me. By all means, keep complaining. It's definitely affecting our enjoyment of the films as well as their critical and financial success. Answering a question with a question haha. Well its clearly stated that the Aether was using Jane as a host to survive and defended itself if an outsider tried to harm Jane. This is because, the Aether is the only infinity gem thats a fluid like glue so its properties are different. Try again. Stark firstly as a normal human should have been obliterated soon as he held the stones. Secondly his metal glove shouldn't be able to weild all 6 infinity gems because its not a specially forged gauntlet. Endgame isnt superior to DOFP, not even close. Please tell me; why does the timetravel 2nd act rely so much on nostalgic call backs? Oooh look the elevator scene I remember that from winter soldier! Oooh look both Caps are fighting for no real reason, oh great! Oooh look how cool it is tony talking to his father (pointless scene that adds nothing to the plot, only fan service). You want real character driven time plot look at DOFP, doesnt need to rely on fan service easter eggs. Not complaining just setting the record straight after seeing so many comments across the internet claiming EG is the best cbm ever made and how innovative the time travel was. Nah, DOFP is superior artistically and narratively. I have to call out these people.
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Post by scabab on Apr 30, 2019 17:03:28 GMT
Well he was considerate enough to PM me before he made the thread to make sure it's title wouldn't count as a spoiler for other people.
A troll would spoil it on purpose.
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Post by charzhino on Apr 30, 2019 17:09:33 GMT
Hobowar that wasn't necessary. But the OP's fake attempt at a conversation is? I don't know what Hobo said, but you deleted it, yet you fake ass mods don't do dick about the rampant trolling here. Fuck your lectures if you aren't going to do anything about the state of this board. Can you tell me why russos couldnt give Thor a proper serious arc if they wanted to give him PTSD, instead of treating him as a running fat joke for 3 hours? Thank god we already got a more realized version of a comic character thats truly broken only to be redeemed in the most inspirational scene And can you also tell me where this particular Hulk with his pure rage and intensity has gone, replaced by a neutered imposter?
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Post by bud47 on Apr 30, 2019 17:10:47 GMT
But the OP's fake attempt at a conversation is? I don't know what Hobo said, but you deleted it, yet you fake ass mods don't do dick about the rampant trolling here. Fuck your lectures if you aren't going to do anything about the state of this board. You're being overly sensitive. Theres nothing wrong with this topic, he has his issues and he explained them, that's not trolling. Trolling would be if he made the topic and all it contained was "Lol this movie sux and is a kiddie ripoff of X-Men DOFP". Don't mistake criticism for trolling. Consider his history here though. When it's nothing but negativity and nitpicking, it's trolling. Proper criticism would include at least some positives. This film has a lot going for it and it deserves it's praise (despite some obvious problems it has), but his "review" includes none of that. He's just stomping his feet over the death of his precious Fox-Men films and is directing his anger at the MCU as usual. Wait until Dark Phoenix comes out. You'll see how one-sided his "criticism" is.
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Post by charzhino on Apr 30, 2019 17:17:08 GMT
I can just picture you squirming in your seat with your hate goggles on watching this film, looking to tear it apart piece by piece. You were going to hate this film no matter what. Yet you still forced yourself to see it. All just so you can come here, complain and be part of the conversation. Who does that? At least Disney got your money and you wasted 3 hours of your life. Good job. Soon as they mentioned time travel i knew they were going for a DOFP style plot. So you can compare the 2 movies easily. Too bad they couldnt surpass it. What is it wrong to have that opinion now. Anyway enough personal attax So bud, dont you feel that Stark suddenly coming to realise that he can access multiple pym particles lessens the urgency of the time travel aspect? Hulk kept saying they only had 1 shot at the time heist because Antman only had 1 pym particles bottle before they entered the quantum world. Now they can time travel with the comfort of having a safety net. DOFP was written to have only 1 shot at convincing Mistique to not kill Trask - that makes it more on-the-edge tense surely?
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Post by charzhino on Apr 30, 2019 17:21:47 GMT
Consider his history here though. When it's nothing but negativity and nitpicking, it's trolling. Proper criticism would include at least some positives. This film has a lot going for it and it deserves it's praise (despite some obvious problems it has), but his "review" includes none of that. He's just stomping his feet over the death of his precious Fox-Men films and is directing his anger at the MCU as usual. Wait until Dark Phoenix comes out. You'll see how one-sided his "criticism" is. I praised the black widow/hawkeye quest as being written with strong character and story. The other quests are nostalgic call backs and fan service, nothing more. Can you oppose that take?
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Post by politicidal on Apr 30, 2019 17:23:33 GMT
Picking up the slack from Summers8, eh?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 30, 2019 17:26:27 GMT
I'll do you one better. How the hell does Jane Foster survive ingesting an Infinity Stone? Who cares? All I know is that Endgame is superior to DOFP, and all of the usual online sources agree with me. By all means, keep complaining. It's definitely affecting our enjoyment of the films as well as their critical and financial success. Answering a question with a question haha. Well its clearly stated that the Aether was using Jane as a host to survive and defended itself if an outsider tried to harm Jane. This is because, the Aether is the only infinity gem thats a fluid like glue so its properties are different. Try again. Stark firstly as a normal human should have been obliterated soon as he held the stones. Secondly his metal glove shouldn't be able to weild all 6 infinity gems because its not a specially forged gauntlet. Endgame isnt superior to DOFP, not even close. Please tell me; why does the timetravel 2nd act rely so much on nostalgic call backs? Oooh look the elevator scene I remember that from winter soldier! Oooh look both Caps are fighting for no real reason, oh great! Oooh look how cool it is tony talking to his father (pointless scene that adds nothing to the plot, only fan service). You want real character driven time plot look at DOFP, doesnt need to rely on fan service easter eggs. Not complaining just setting the record straight after seeing so many comments across the internet claiming EG is the best cbm ever made and how innovative the time travel was. Nah, DOFP is superior artistically and narratively. I have to call out these people. I didn't attempt to answer a question. My point was there is plenty of faulty logic with comic book movies, yet the audience ignores it when they're invested in the characters and the story. I could sit here and list all of the idiocy in any given X-Men film, let alone DOFP, but I'd be here all day and nobody cares about those films, anyway. Only people who have failed at life spend hours complaining online about movies they don't like. Hell, you're so desperate for attention I just got you to defend Thor: The Dark World!!! You're never going to live this down. Yes it is, and nothing you say can change that.
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