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Post by kuatorises on May 1, 2019 13:58:59 GMT
But the OP's fake attempt at a conversation is? I don't know what Hobo said, but you deleted it, yet you fake ass mods don't do dick about the rampant trolling here. Fuck your lectures if you aren't going to do anything about the state of this board. Theres nothing wrong with this topic, he has his issues and he explained them, that's not trolling. Trolling would be if he made the topic and all it contained was "Lol this movie sux and is a kiddie ripoff of X-Men DOFP". Don't mistake criticism for trolling. Aside from you two mods and the OP, literally almost everyone in this thread is expressing the same exact feelings as me. This board is run by trolls and not only is allowed, you come out and defend it.
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Post by kuatorises on May 1, 2019 14:12:20 GMT
Damn, I still hope Hulk will return in future MCU movies like Thor will. I can understand why they made Thor more comedic here (though I hated how they "closed" his arc and he wasn't as badass in the final battle as he was in Ragnarok and IW) but I gotta agree sith Hulk. If his last three appearances feature a mini-trilogy arc, they could've made him go out in a badass way. What was IW setting up for him then if he wouldn't be given another chance to fight Thanos then? Hell, I even completely forgot what he was doing Endgame other than him wielding the gauntlet to revive the dead and the time travel test thing.I liked both movies but I'm not gonna lie, I felt the stakes more in DOFP than in Endgame. The use of time travel in Endgame felt more like a win-win situaion imo. I hope they are too. I think they will be, as Ruffalo and Hemsworth haven't really said anything publicly like Evans did. He made it very clear he was done with the character. Plus, I think they're going to want to keep some familiar faces around. There's no way they're going to completely eliminate everyone from the original roster. They need people to feel attached to characters and they are the only ones left. Additionally, in Hemsworth's case, he's seemingly going to be in GOTG 3. No point in that unless he's going to stick around. I didn't have a problem with Thor at all. He's always been unreliable, quick to rush into a situation, and just as quick to leave the team when he's feeling down; as he was in's this movie. That's why I did not have a problem with how his arc unfolded. Thor isn't a leader. He's a soldier. I didn't have a problem with smart Hulk aside from the fact that he had no revenge against Thanos. How did not register with them that people wanted to see that?! I'm not saying he necessarily has to beat him one on one, but he couldn't whoop Thanos' ass a bit after the big 3 AND Captain Marvel all had a go at him? Terrible decision, especially after he lost so many fights schedule in the last several movies: Ironman in AoU, Thor in Ragnorak, and Thanos in IW. One or two of these by themselves is not a big deal, but all of them combined is a mistake. They could have had him go savage on Thanos, but remain smart Hulk the rest of the time. It was my biggest and arguably only gripe with the movie.
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Post by bud47 on May 1, 2019 14:38:27 GMT
before you start criticizing the time travel elements, keep in mind it's not real and every film that deals with it does it's own thing with it, whether it makes sense or not. There's a lot to nitpick about how DoFP handles time travel that I'd argue moreso than Endgame. Of course its not real, but writing of timetravel takes skill which Russos showed they have not. Sorry but DOFPs timetravel writing is more cleaner and il show you why Endgames is so sloppy in another thread The Russo recently said that they spent 3 years developing this film and the time travel aspect. It has multiple layers and possibly multiple realities, some of which will be revealed in follow-up films and the Disney+ shows. Multiple scientific theories and explanations were provided in the film. It was more complex, which drives thought and conversation, which isn't a bad thing. There will be lasting effects from this going forward. The time travel in DOFP was clean because it was simple and offered no real scientific explanation. We were just expected to run with the idea that one's consciousness could be sent back in time by Kitty's convenient and unexplained new time travel powers. Basically, it wasn't given much thought like all things in the Fox-Men films.
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Post by scabab on May 1, 2019 14:43:06 GMT
Aside from you to mods and the OP, literally almost everyone in this thread is expressing the same exact feelings as me. This board is run by trolls and not only is allowed, you come out and defend it. What trolls? Look at all the threads on page 1 on this board. Does that look like a troll infested board to you? This is the only thread with any real criticism towards the movie. He didn't insult anybody, he says there's similarities with X-men and he explained why he preferred that. If other people don't feel the same then that's no big deal either. I prefer Endgame myself but he's right about certain things. They have turned the raging god smashing monster that was the Hulk into a dabbing comic relief. They did turn the previously bad ass god of thunder that was Thor into a fat slob who shouts at kids playing Fortnite. The users who people had a problem with aren't even around. Summers8 we had temporarily banned almost 2 months ago still hasn't returned. Tristan has been gone since January. DC Fan hasn't posted here in the last half a month. Norman stopped posting here in a huff when he received a warning. So who are all these trolls? This is most peaceful the board has ever been.
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Post by politicidal on May 1, 2019 14:45:10 GMT
Meh. The fact that you claim Endgame is a rip-off of DofP in your very first sentence already tells me this is a troll post. No sense reading whatever else you wrote after that. No regrets. Got a good chuckle out of it. Still, this is amateurish compared with the absolute masterpiece that was the time travel thread by our dearly departed lawyer friend. Hey I just thought of something. Perhaps Summers8 is not around anymore because he’s been arrested for practicing law without a license. |
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Post by kuatorises on May 1, 2019 14:52:07 GMT
Aside from you to mods and the OP, literally almost everyone in this thread is expressing the same exact feelings as me. This board is run by trolls and not only is allowed, you come out and defend it. Look at all the threads on page 1 on this board. Does that look like a troll infested board to you? This is the only thread with any real criticism towards the movie. He didn't insult anybody, he says there's similarities with X-men and he explained why he preferred that. If other people don't feel the same then that's no big deal either. I prefer Endgame myself but he's right about certain things. They have turned the raging god smashing monster that was the Hulk into a dabbing comic relief. They did turn the previously bad ass god of thunder that was Thor into a fat slob who shouts at kids playing Fortnite. The users who people had a problem with aren't even around. Summers8 we had temporarily banned almost 2 months ago still hasn't returned. Tristan has been gone since January. DC Fan hasn't posted here in the last half a month. Norman stopped posting here in a huff when he received a warning. So who are all these trolls? This is most peaceful the board has ever been. 
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Post by bud47 on May 1, 2019 15:26:23 GMT
I prefer Endgame myself but he's right about certain things. They have turned the raging god smashing monster that was the Hulk into a dabbing comic relief. They did turn the previously bad ass god of thunder that was Thor into a fat slob who shouts at kids playing Fortnite. I'm not a fan of how Hulk and Thor was treated in this film. However, I understand why they did it. Characters get boring if they aren't allowed to grow and change. This goes for the actors playing them as well and the filmmakers want to keep them happy. Hemsworth has proven to be a pretty good comedic actor. They wanted to take advantage of that to keep the character fresh, which proved successful in Ragnarok. Sure, I wish he could have remained as he was in the first 2 Thor films, but that gets old after a while, even if it is more faithful to the character. It's likely that Hemsworth demanded the change as well and they wanted to keep him happy so that he would continue on with the role. The gut was a bit much though and the drunk routine ran on for way too long, but he was pretty bad ass at the end of the film at least. Hulk was my biggest disappointment. It was nice to finally get Professor Hulk, but it was definitely more Banner than Hulk in this film. We didn't really see him at all during the final battle and he did not get his rematch with Thanos, which was disappointing. With a film full of "fan service", he was sadly overlooked. And couldn't they at least have given him a deeper Hulk-like voice instead of him just sounding like Ruffalo?
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Post by charzhino on May 1, 2019 15:50:00 GMT
The Russo recently said that they spent 3 years developing this film and the time travel aspect. It has multiple layers and possibly multiple realities, some of which will be revealed in follow-up films and the Disney+ shows. Multiple scientific theories and explanations were provided in the film. It was more complex, which drives thought and conversation, which isn't a bad thing. There will be lasting effects from this going forward. 3 years lol. Then tell me why they thought it was a great idea to have branched timelines where the "past doesnt affect the future". In that case, it is theoretically possible for any number heroes or villains in the 2019 timeline to go back in time, collect infinity stones from multiple timelines and travel back to 2019. You can end up with a situation where you have 100 individual infinity gauntlets in 2019 lmao. Does that sound logical to u. Such great ingenuity and planning Simple and effective. Kittys powers are just as convenient and unexplained as when Rachel Summers used them to transport Kittys consciousness in the original story. |
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Post by charzhino on May 1, 2019 15:54:55 GMT
I prefer Endgame myself but he's right about certain things. They have turned the raging god smashing monster that was the Hulk into a dabbing comic relief. They did turn the previously bad ass god of thunder that was Thor into a fat slob who shouts at kids playing Fortnite. I'm not a fan of how Hulk and Thor was treated in this film. However, I understand why they did it. Characters get boring if they aren't allowed to grow and change. This goes for the actors playing them as well and the filmmakers want to keep them happy. Hemsworth has proven to be a pretty good comedic actor. They wanted to take advantage of that to keep the character fresh, which proved successful in Ragnarok. Sure, I wish he could have remained as he was in the first 2 Thor films, but that gets old after a while, even if it is more faithful to the character. It's likely that Hemsworth demanded the change as well and they wanted to keep him happy so that he would continue on with the role. The gut was a bit much though and the drunk routine ran on for way too long, but he was pretty bad ass at the end of the film at least. Hulk was my biggest disappointment. It was nice to finally get Professor Hulk, but it was definitely more Banner than Hulk in this film. We didn't really see him at all during the final battle and he did not get his rematch with Thanos, which was disappointing. With a film full of "fan service", he was sadly overlooked. And couldn't they at least have given him a deeper Hulk-like voice instead of him just sounding like Ruffalo? You understand why they did it right. Needed to keep it light for the kids and not go too dark. Imagine how more epic endgame would be with original intense Hulk, not kid friendly dabbing hulk. And how sweeter Thors redemption would be had they given him a truly rock bottom arc like Xavier got in DOFP instead of fat gag fortnite rage gamer lol. This is why i said that Endgame is proof Disney will water down Xmen because they cannot handle compelling adult themes. Thank god they didnt butcher Starks death scene and funeral with jokes because i was expecting it |
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Post by charzhino on May 1, 2019 15:55:24 GMT
What trolls? Look at all the threads on page 1 on this board. Does that look like a troll infested board to you? This is the only thread with any real criticism towards the movie. He didn't insult anybody, he says there's similarities with X-men and he explained why he preferred that. If other people don't feel the same then that's no big deal either. I prefer Endgame myself but he's right about certain things. They have turned the raging god smashing monster that was the Hulk into a dabbing comic relief. They did turn the previously bad ass god of thunder that was Thor into a fat slob who shouts at kids playing Fortnite. The users who people had a problem with aren't even around. Summers8 we had temporarily banned almost 2 months ago still hasn't returned. Tristan has been gone since January. DC Fan hasn't posted here in the last half a month. Norman stopped posting here in a huff when he received a warning. So who are all these trolls? This is most peaceful the board has ever been. Kutorises just got owned! |
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Post by bud47 on May 1, 2019 16:06:11 GMT
The Russo recently said that they spent 3 years developing this film and the time travel aspect. It has multiple layers and possibly multiple realities, some of which will be revealed in follow-up films and the Disney+ shows. Multiple scientific theories and explanations were provided in the film. It was more complex, which drives thought and conversation, which isn't a bad thing. There will be lasting effects from this going forward. 3 years lol. Then tell me why they thought it was a great idea to have branched timelines where the "past doesnt affect the future". In that case, it is theoretically possible for any number heroes or villains in the 2019 timeline to go back in time, collect infinity stones from multiple timelines and travel back to 2019. You can end up with a situation where you have 100 individual infinity gauntlets in 2019 lmao. Does that sound logical to u. Such great ingenuity and planning Simple and effective. Kittys powers are just as convenient and unexplained as when Rachel Summers used them to transport Kittys consciousness in the original story. I can't speak for them. Again, we'll see how it affects things going forward. It gets confusing and falls apart when you think about the logistics, but who really knows when it comes to fictional time travel. At least they offered some scientific explanation and in the end it gets people talking and discussing the film. So basically Fox-Men films get a pass from you and are free from scrutiny because it's not MCU. Simple and effective? Perfect for a studio that doesn't like putting much thought or effort into their films. Just give a mutant some random powers and poof. Rachel Summers is a telepath (a mind ability). It's less of a leap to think she could send someone's mind through time as opposed to Kitty Pryde who just phases through solid matter. It was done for convenience. Nothing more.
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Post by bud47 on May 1, 2019 16:15:17 GMT
I'm not a fan of how Hulk and Thor was treated in this film. However, I understand why they did it. Characters get boring if they aren't allowed to grow and change. This goes for the actors playing them as well and the filmmakers want to keep them happy. Hemsworth has proven to be a pretty good comedic actor. They wanted to take advantage of that to keep the character fresh, which proved successful in Ragnarok. Sure, I wish he could have remained as he was in the first 2 Thor films, but that gets old after a while, even if it is more faithful to the character. It's likely that Hemsworth demanded the change as well and they wanted to keep him happy so that he would continue on with the role. The gut was a bit much though and the drunk routine ran on for way too long, but he was pretty bad ass at the end of the film at least. Hulk was my biggest disappointment. It was nice to finally get Professor Hulk, but it was definitely more Banner than Hulk in this film. We didn't really see him at all during the final battle and he did not get his rematch with Thanos, which was disappointing. With a film full of "fan service", he was sadly overlooked. And couldn't they at least have given him a deeper Hulk-like voice instead of him just sounding like Ruffalo? You understand why they did it right. Needed to keep it light for the kids and not go too dark. Imagine how more epic endgame would be with original intense Hulk, not kid friendly dabbing hulk. And how sweeter Thors redemption would be had they given him a truly rock bottom arc like Xavier got in DOFP instead of fat gag fortnite rage gamer lol. This is why i said that Endgame is proof Disney will water down Xmen because they cannot handle compelling adult themes. Thank god they didnt butcher Starks death scene and funeral with jokes because i was expecting it OK summers8 clone, I know you like your things all dark and depressing and humor is forbidden, but there's this thing called balance and the MCU nails it most of the time. The first hour of the film was pretty dark, adult themes were present, characters were killed off, previous characters that were killed before the snap have remained dead. That should have made you pretty happy, but there's just no satisfying you when it comes to these films. So it begs the question again, why do you keep watching them? Why did you waste 3 hours of your life for this film? Is it just so you can come to message boards and complain, so you aren't left out of conversations?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 1, 2019 16:19:55 GMT
You understand why they did it right. Needed to keep it light for the kids and not go too dark. Imagine how more epic endgame would be with original intense Hulk, not kid friendly dabbing hulk. And how sweeter Thors redemption would be had they given him a truly rock bottom arc like Xavier got in DOFP instead of fat gag fortnite rage gamer lol. This is why i said that Endgame is proof Disney will water down Xmen because they cannot handle compelling adult themes. Thank god they didnt butcher Starks death scene and funeral with jokes because i was expecting it OK summers8 clone, I know you like your things all dark and depressing and humor is forbidden, but there's this thing called balance and the MCU nails it most of the time. The first hour of the film was pretty dark, adult themes were present, characters were killed off, previous characters that were killed before the snap have remained dead. That should have made you pretty happy, but there's just no satisfying you when it comes to these films.
So it begs the question again, why do you keep watching them? Why did you waste 3 hours of your life for this film? Is it just so you can come to message boards and complain, so you aren't left out of conversations? So he can complain about how juvenile they are while ending sentences with lol and lmao.
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Post by charzhino on May 1, 2019 16:20:54 GMT
I can't speak for them. Again, we'll see how it affects things going forward. It gets confusing and falls apart when you think about the logistics, but who really knows when it comes to fictional time travel. At least they offered some scientific explanation and in the end it gets people talking and discussing the film. Yes you will in the coming months how dedicated people on youtube and reddit will expose the russos timeline mechanics. The how it should have ended youtube video will be great. She can "phase" consciousness through time is how Singer described it. If ironman can continue to get magical upgrades on his armour every successive movie then I can buy idea of kitty learning evolve her phasing powers to phasing minds. FoX-Men films have been scrutinzed and mocked for decades, dont worry we arent sensitive and can take it. At the end of it all, MCU still hasnt surpassed Logan after 22 movies with the Disney billions lol |
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Post by bud47 on May 1, 2019 16:30:39 GMT
I can't speak for them. Again, we'll see how it affects things going forward. It gets confusing and falls apart when you think about the logistics, but who really knows when it comes to fictional time travel. At least they offered some scientific explanation and in the end it gets people talking and discussing the film. Yes you will in the coming months how dedicated people on youtube and reddit will expose the russos timeline mechanics. The how it should have ended youtube video will be great. She can "phase" consciousness through time is how Singer described it. If ironman can continue to get magical upgrades on his armour every successive movie then I can buy idea of kitty learning evolve her phasing powers to phasing minds. FoX-Men films have been scrutinzed and mocked for decades, dont worry we arent sensitive and can take it. At the end of it all, MCU still hasnt surpassed Logan after 22 movies with the Disney billions lol Jesus, you really are sinking further and further. Your bias knows no end. Iron Man upgraded his armor. It started as armor, it ended as armor. The technology just improved. Kitty obtained a brand new power that had nothing to do with her phasing. You just accept Singer's "explanation" the way you accept everything in those films, with open arms and a blind eye.
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Post by charzhino on May 1, 2019 16:30:59 GMT
OK summers8 clone, I know you like your things all dark and depressing and humor is forbidden, but there's this thing called balance and the MCU nails it most of the time. Wrong. Dark and depressing needed when the story or character demands it. Light and funny when the story/character demands it. There is no balance in most mcu movies. Why do you think lot of people say winter soldier is still the best Marvel movie - because its the most similar to xmens tone, which is truly balanced. First hour was good, I enjoyed it. But then the corny humour started overflowing when they wouldnt drop the fat Thor shtick, professer Hulk cute guy act and especially Rhodeys quips. "What do you think is running through my veins" asks Thor after a heart breaking line about how his mother is dead and pondering the reality of seeing her again Rhodey - "CHEESE WIZ!" HAGAHAHAHAHAGAGAHAHAHA. So fuckin funny Colnel rhodes. How hilariously out of place to break the dramatic power of the scene. Anything to get bonehead audiences laughing tho i suppose Endgame is the last mcu movie i will see in theatres. Wanted to see how the saga ended |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on May 1, 2019 16:49:25 GMT
OK summers8 clone, I know you like your things all dark and depressing and humor is forbidden, but there's this thing called balance and the MCU nails it most of the time. Wrong. Dark and depressing needed when the story or character demands it. Light and funny when the story/character demands it. There is no balance in most mcu movies. Why do you think lot of people say winter soldier is still the best Marvel movie - because its the most similar to xmens tone, which is truly balanced. First hour was good, I enjoyed it. But then the corny humour started overflowing when they wouldnt drop the fat Thor shtick, professer Hulk cute guy act and especially Rhodeys quips. "What do you think is running through my veins" asks Thor after a heart breaking line about how his mother is dead and pondering the reality of seeing her again Rhodey - "CHEESE WIZ!" HAGAHAHAHAHAGAGAHAHAHA. So fuckin funny Colnel rhodes. How hilariously out of place to break the dramatic power of the scene. Anything to get bonehead audiences laughing tho i suppose Endgame is the last mcu movie i will see in theatres. Wanted to see how the saga ended Why do you think lot of people say winter soldier is still the best Marvel movie - because its the most similar to xmens tone, which is truly balanced.
If that were true then the other MCU movies wouldn't be more popular than most of the X-Men movies. Unless "lot of people" is just the tiny number of people that agree with you.
Endgame is the last mcu movie i will see in theatres. Wanted to see how the saga ended
Don't make promises you can't keep.
And BTW, yes there is a time and place for serious and a time and place for humor but it is 100% subjective. You do not get to decide when it is right or wrong for everyone else. The audience, the comics fans, and the critics have all proven that your ideas on the subject are highly debatable.
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Post by charzhino on May 1, 2019 16:56:38 GMT
If that were true then the other MCU movies wouldn't be more popular than most of the X-Men movies. Unless "lot of people" is just the tiny number of people that agree with you. Popularity doesn't make something better I think its obvious a joke like Rhodeys is out of place given the context of the subject matter. And people in general are enamoured by MCU so will wont criticise the jokes too much. Disney star wars on the other hand.. |
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Post by bud47 on May 1, 2019 16:59:31 GMT
OK summers8 clone, I know you like your things all dark and depressing and humor is forbidden, but there's this thing called balance and the MCU nails it most of the time. Wrong. Dark and depressing needed when the story or character demands it. Light and funny when the story/character demands it. There is no balance in most mcu movies. Why do you think lot of people say winter soldier is still the best Marvel movie - because its the most similar to xmens tone, which is truly balanced. First hour was good, I enjoyed it. But then the corny humour started overflowing when they wouldnt drop the fat Thor shtick, professer Hulk cute guy act and especially Rhodeys quips. "What do you think is running through my veins" asks Thor after a heart breaking line about how his mother is dead and pondering the reality of seeing her again Rhodey - "CHEESE WIZ!" HAGAHAHAHAHAGAGAHAHAHA. So fuckin funny Colnel rhodes. How hilariously out of place to break the dramatic power of the scene. Anything to get bonehead audiences laughing tho i suppose I already provided my complaints about Thor and Hulk. The rest of the humor in the film was fine. In a 3 hours film, you should be thankful there wasn't more. It was needed to break up the tension and in my opinion, it was mostly balanced (Thor and Hulk aside). This isn't Shakespeare. It's relateable and entertaining, which most people enjoy. You know, those boneheads you keep looking down on with your superior film knowledge. But...why? You've hated it from the start and you'll go on hating. Did you really expect things to be any different? I don't understand the reasoning, other than you just like to complain. I think we all know you're going to be first in line to see every MCU film. This won't be your last and you know it.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on May 1, 2019 17:01:40 GMT
If that were true then the other MCU movies wouldn't be more popular than most of the X-Men movies. Unless "lot of people" is just the tiny number of people that agree with you. Popularity doesn't make something better I think its obvious a joke like Rhodeys is out of place given the context of the subject matter. And people in general are enamoured by MCU so will wont criticise the jokes too much. Disney star wars on the other hand.. And a guy like you bitching on the internet doesn't make something worse. It was your argument that TWS is popular because it is like X-Men That is contradicted by the fact that the other MCU movies are way more popular than most of the X-Men. You see popularity matters to you when it agrees with you. Just like critics and box office only matter when they conform to your ideas. You are a typical pathetic little troll.
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