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Post by DC-Fan on May 6, 2019 16:25:05 GMT
1. So Ant-Man is trapped in the Quantum Realm and only gets out bcause a random mouse happens to step on 1 of the buttons on the machine and activates the machine to let him out? So what if the random mouse never stepped on the machine? Would Ant-Man still be trapped in the Quantum Realm and thus never tells Cap and Black Widow about the possbility of time travel to reverse the snap? This is as contrived as the video camera that just happened to be in the right place to record Bucky murdering the Starks.
2. After Ant-Man gets out of the Quantum Realm, he's locked inside a cage door so he writes "HELP" on a card and shows it to the security camera and the security guard unlocks the cage for him. He had his Ant-Man suit on so why the fuck didnt he just shrink down and go through the cage? Why the fuck did he need to signal the security guard for help to get out of the cage?
3. Why the fuck did Doctor Strange say if he told Tony what happens, then it wont happen? So if the Enterprise-D travels back in time and tells Zefram Cochrane that he's going to be the 1st human to make a successful warp speed flight and that's going to lead to 1st contact with Vulcans and the founding of the United Federation of Planets, then that won't ever happen? What law of time travel says that something can't happen if someone is told about it beforehand?
4. The time travel in Endgame makes no sense at all:
A. Thanos sends Past Nebula to the present to steal the stones. Past Nebula knocks out Hawkeye and grabs the gauntlet with the stones. Then Past Gamora and Present Nebula show up, and Present Nebula shoots and kills Past Nebula. So Present Nebula shouldn't exist and that means Thanos couldn't have tortured Nebula in Infinity War and thus Gamroa wouldn't have taken Thanos to the Soul Stone in Infinity War.
B. Speaking of Infinity War, the Thanos that was turned to dust at the end of Endgame was Past Thanos, not Present Thanos (who was killed when Thor chopped off his head). So with Past Thanos skipping over the events of Infinity War and being turned to dust in the present, that means Infinity War and Thanos' 1st snap never happens.
C. Cassie Lang wasn't turned to dust so she continued to age during those 5 years and grew up to be an adult. So why the fuck didn't Ned age during those 5 years? Why the fuck is Ned still in high school after 5 years?
5. Speaking of Ned, based on the latest trailer for Far From Home, it looks like Far From Home takes place after Endgame. So why the fuck are Ned and MJ and the rest of Peter's classmates still in high school after 5 years?
The MCU is nothing but a huge convoluted mess!
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Post by politicidal on May 6, 2019 16:26:46 GMT
Welcome back.
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Post by scabab on May 6, 2019 16:29:33 GMT
Ned Leeds was turned to dust no?
If none of the classmates turned to dust then they shouldn't have aged and should still be of school age.
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Post by thisguy4000 on May 6, 2019 16:35:24 GMT
The time travel stuff is convoluted (as time travel tends to be) but the explanation it gave was that when you travel through time, you don’t alter the present. You simply create a new alternate reality.
As for Ned, MJ, Flash, and Betty still being in high school, the obvious explanation is that they were all dusted like Peter. Yeah, it’s convenient that pretty much all of Peter’s relevant classmates just happened to have shared his fate, but then again, if the six original Avengers all just happened to survive the Snap, you’ll just have to suspend your disbelief.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 6, 2019 16:41:37 GMT
1. So Ant-Man is trapped in the Quantum Realm and only gets out bcause a random mouse happens to step on 1 of the buttons on the machine and activates the machine to let him out? So what if the random mouse never stepped on the machine? Would Ant-Man still be trapped in the Quantum Realm and thus never tells Cap and Black Widow about the possbility of time travel to reverse the snap? This is as contrived as the video camera that just happened to be in the right place to record Bucky murdering the Starks. 2. After Ant-Man gets out of the Quantum Realm, he's locked inside a cage door so he writes "HELP" on a card and shows it to the security camera and the security guard unlocks the cage for him. He had his Ant-Man suit on so why the fuck didnt he just shrink down and go through the cage? Why the fuck did he need to signal the security guard for help to get out of the cage? 3. Why the fuck did Doctor Strange say if he told Tony what happens, then it wont happen? So if the Enterprise-D travels back in time and tells Zefram Cochrane that he's going to be the 1st human to make a successful warp speed flight and that's going to lead to 1st contact with Vulcans and the founding of the United Federation of Planets, then that won't ever happen? What law of time travel says that something can't happen if someone is told about it beforehand? 4. The time travel in Endgame makes no sense at all: A. Cap and Iron Man travel back to 1970 to steal the tesseract and bring it back to the present. That means the tesseract isn't around in 2012 for Loki to get and thus the Chitauri invasion in 2012 never happens and the Avengers should've never been formed in 2012. B. Thanos sends Past Nebula to the present to steal the stones. Past Nebula knocks out Hawkeye and grabs the gauntlet with the stones. Then Past Gamora and Present Nebula show up, and Present Nebula shoots and kills Past Nebula. So Present Nebula shouldn't exist and that means Thanos couldn't have tortured Nebula in Infinity War and thus Gamroa wouldn't have taken Thanos to the Soul Stone in Infinity War. C. Speaking of Infinity War, the Thanos that was turned to dust at the end of Endgame was Past Thanos, not Present Thanos (who was killed when Thor chopped off his head). So with past Thanos skipping over the events of Infinity War and being turned to dust in the present, that means Infinity War and Thanos' 1st snap never happens. D. Cassie Lang wasn't turned to dust so she continued to age during those 5 years and grew up to be an adult. So why the fuck didn't Ned age during those 5 years? Why the fuck is Ned still in high school after 5 years? 5. Speaking of Ned, based on the latest trailer for Far From Home, it looks like Far From Home takes place after Endgame. So why the fuck are Ned and MJ and the rest of Peter's classmates still in high school after 5 years? The MCU is nothing but a huge convoluted mess! All this time and this was the best you could come up with? 1. Maybe he'd still be trapped, we'll never know. 2. He has a finite amount of Pym particles and didn't want to waste them. 3. If Strange tells Tony what happens, he's changing the timeline. The last thing he wants to do in the one scenario they win is mess with the flow of events. 4. A - Cap brought tesseract back at the end. B - Present Nebula exists separately from past Nebula, the film goes out of its way on several occasions to explain this concept. C - See B D - The assumption is that Ned and the core group of Spidey's friends were all dusted. 5. See D Life must be painful with an IQ as low as yours. Think of how many plot points in any given show or film (we all know you don't read) must go right over your head, never mind the arduous task of dealing with day to life.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 6, 2019 16:49:00 GMT
Ned Leeds was turned to dust no? If none of the classmates turned to dust then they shouldn't have aged and should still be of school age. They never showed Ned, MJ, or any of Peter's classmates turned to dust.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on May 6, 2019 16:51:54 GMT
Ned Leeds was turned to dust no? If none of the classmates turned to dust then they shouldn't have aged and should still be of school age. They never showed Ned, MJ, or any of Peter's classmates turned to dust. Ever heard of using your imagination?
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Post by justanaveragejoe on May 6, 2019 16:53:54 GMT
AND BIG SHOCK! The site's biggest MCU hater hates another MCU film!
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Post by Nicko's Nose on May 6, 2019 16:54:42 GMT
Ned Leeds was turned to dust no? If none of the classmates turned to dust then they shouldn't have aged and should still be of school age. They never showed Ned, MJ, or any of Peter's classmates turned to dust. They didn’t show the billion other people turning to dust either.
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Post by poutinep on May 6, 2019 16:54:58 GMT
1. So what if the random mouse never stepped on the machine? Would Ant-Man still be trapped in the Quantum Realm and thus never tells Cap and Black Widow about the possbility of time travel to reverse the snap? Yes, he would still be stuck. A rat running across that button was...dare I say it... inevitable. 2. Why the fuck did he need to signal the security guard for help to get out of the cage? He was just stuck ant-size far longer than he'd ever been ant-size and 'woke up' in a strange environment. He didn't know why, he didn't want to risk shrinking again until he knew more. Also plausible contributing factor - he was low on Pym particles.
3. Why the fuck did Doctor Strange say if he told Tony what happens, then it wont happen? Strange saw 14,000,605 possible futures and the only one where they defeated Thanos did not have him telling anyone how to defeat Thanos. 4. The time travel in Endgame makes no sense at all: Did you not pay attention to Banner/The Ancient One or were you just too dumb to understand? Their time travel rules may be different than you're used to, or than you think it should be, but they were consistent which is what matters. 5. Speaking of Ned, based on the latest trailer for Far From Home, it looks like Far From Home takes place after Endgame. So why the fuck are Ned and MJ and the rest of Peter's classmates still in high school after 5 years? They were dusted too.
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Post by damngumby on May 6, 2019 16:57:04 GMT
Ned Leeds was turned to dust no? If none of the classmates turned to dust then they shouldn't have aged and should still be of school age. They never showed Ned, MJ, or any of Peter's classmates turned to dust. In the directors cut I heard they are going to show every single person who was turned to dust. It will be 10,700 hours long.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 6, 2019 17:02:10 GMT
2. He has a finite amount of Pym particles and didn't want to waste them. So Ant-Man needs Pym particles to shrink down to ant-size to escape through a locked cage? 3. If Strange tells Tony what happens, he's changing the timeline. MAKES NO SEMSE AT ALL!!! So when Enterprise-D told Zefram Cochrane that he was going to be the 1st human to make a successful warp spped flight, that changed the timeline and Zefram Cochrane never made that 1st warp speed flight? Once again you've ignored the question: What law of time travel says that if you tell someone something is going to happen, then that something won't happen? B - Present Nebula exists separately from past Nebula, the film goes out of its way on several occasions to explain this concept. BULLSHIT!!! When Past Gamora asked how there could be 2 Nebulas, Thanos said it was just 1 Nebula but in 2 different time periods. So it wasn't 2 different Nebulas. It was the same Nebula, which is why Thanos was able to access Past Nebula and Present Nebula shared the same memories. And like all laws of time travel, when the past person dies the present and future person ceases to exist.
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Post by merh on May 6, 2019 17:02:56 GMT
1. So Ant-Man is trapped in the Quantum Realm and only gets out bcause a random mouse happens to step on 1 of the buttons on the machine and activates the machine to let him out? So what if the random mouse never stepped on the machine? Would Ant-Man still be trapped in the Quantum Realm and thus never tells Cap and Black Widow about the possbility of time travel to reverse the snap? This is as contrived as the video camera that just happened to be in the right place to record Bucky murdering the Starks. Didn't see Ant-Man & the Wasp? Janet Pym has been in the Quantum Realm since the 1960s. Obviously lacked enough Pym Particles to bring the wagon with him. Didn't watch the movie? All the other time travel movies got it wrong. This one is using its own rules Cap returned it so it was where it was in 2012 Watch the damned movie Watch the damned movie We will know in July. But it is likely all of Peter's class that goes in the trip were dusted. The dusted didnt graduate You have said this forever so why do you bother watching?
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Post by DC-Fan on May 6, 2019 17:03:47 GMT
plausible contributing factor - he was low on Pym particles. So Ant-Man needs Pym particles to shrink down to ant-size to escape through a locked cage?
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Post by DC-Fan on May 6, 2019 17:06:26 GMT
Janet Pym has been in the Quantum Realm since the 1960s. I'm talking about Scott Lang, not Janet Pym. Obviously lacked enough Pym Particles to bring the wagon with him. So Ant-Man needs Pym particles to shrink down to ant-size to escape through a locked cage? it is likely all of Peter's class that goes in the trip were dusted. None of them were shown to be dusted.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on May 6, 2019 17:09:41 GMT
1. So Ant-Man is trapped in the Quantum Realm and only gets out bcause a random mouse happens to step on 1 of the buttons on the machine and activates the machine to let him out? So what if the random mouse never stepped on the machine? Would Ant-Man still be trapped in the Quantum Realm and thus never tells Cap and Black Widow about the possbility of time travel to reverse the snap? This is as contrived as the video camera that just happened to be in the right place to record Bucky murdering the Starks. 2. After Ant-Man gets out of the Quantum Realm, he's locked inside a cage door so he writes "HELP" on a card and shows it to the security camera and the security guard unlocks the cage for him. He had his Ant-Man suit on so why the fuck didnt he just shrink down and go through the cage? Why the fuck did he need to signal the security guard for help to get out of the cage? 3. Why the fuck did Doctor Strange say if he told Tony what happens, then it wont happen? So if the Enterprise-D travels back in time and tells Zefram Cochrane that he's going to be the 1st human to make a successful warp speed flight and that's going to lead to 1st contact with Vulcans and the founding of the United Federation of Planets, then that won't ever happen? What law of time travel says that something can't happen if someone is told about it beforehand? 4. The time travel in Endgame makes no sense at all: A. Cap and Iron Man travel back to 1970 to steal the tesseract and bring it back to the present. That means the tesseract isn't around in 2012 for Loki to get and thus the Chitauri invasion in 2012 never happens and the Avengers should've never been formed in 2012. B. Thanos sends Past Nebula to the present to steal the stones. Past Nebula knocks out Hawkeye and grabs the gauntlet with the stones. Then Past Gamora and Present Nebula show up, and Present Nebula shoots and kills Past Nebula. So Present Nebula shouldn't exist and that means Thanos couldn't have tortured Nebula in Infinity War and thus Gamroa wouldn't have taken Thanos to the Soul Stone in Infinity War. C. Speaking of Infinity War, the Thanos that was turned to dust at the end of Endgame was Past Thanos, not Present Thanos (who was killed when Thor chopped off his head). So with past Thanos skipping over the events of Infinity War and being turned to dust in the present, that means Infinity War and Thanos' 1st snap never happens. D. Cassie Lang wasn't turned to dust so she continued to age during those 5 years and grew up to be an adult. So why the fuck didn't Ned age during those 5 years? Why the fuck is Ned still in high school after 5 years? 5. Speaking of Ned, based on the latest trailer for Far From Home, it looks like Far From Home takes place after Endgame. So why the fuck are Ned and MJ and the rest of Peter's classmates still in high school after 5 years? The MCU is nothing but a huge convoluted mess! All this time and this was the best you could come up with? 1. Maybe he'd still be trapped, we'll never know. 2. He has a finite amount of Pym particles and didn't want to waste them. 3. If Strange tells Tony what happens, he's changing the timeline. The last thing he wants to do in the one scenario they win is mess with the flow of events. 4. A - Cap brought tesseract back at the end. B - Present Nebula exists separately from past Nebula, the film goes out of its way on several occasions to explain this concept. C - See B D - The assumption is that Ned and the core group of Spidey's friends were all dusted. 5. See D Life must be painful with an IQ as low as yours. Think of how many plot points in any given show or film (we all know you don't read) must go right over your head, never mind the arduous task of dealing with day to life. Do you think he will come back and either thank you for answering his questions or offer any rebuttal to your answers?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 6, 2019 17:12:05 GMT
2. He has a finite amount of Pym particles and didn't want to waste them. So Ant-Man needs Pym particles to shrink down to ant-size to escape through a locked cage? 3. If Strange tells Tony what happens, he's changing the timeline. MAKES NO SEMSE AT ALL!!! So when Enterprise-D told Zefram Cochrane that he was going to be the 1st human to make a successful warp spped flight, that changed the timeline and Zefram Cochrane never made that 1st warp speed flight? Once again you've ignored the question: What law of time travel says that if you tell someone something is going to happen, then that something won't happen? B - Present Nebula exists separately from past Nebula, the film goes out of its way on several occasions to explain this concept. BULLSHIT!!! When Past Gamora asked how there could be 2 Nebulas, Thanos said it was just 1 Nebula but in 2 different time periods. So it wasn't 2 different Nebulas. It was the same Nebula, which is why Thanos was able to access Past Nebula and Present Nebula shared the same memories. And like all laws of time travel, when the past person dies the present and future person ceases to exist. Um yeah, he needs Pym particles to do that. Not sure why you keep bringing up other films when they explain in this film that other movies got time travel wrong. 1 Nebula as in the same person in two different time periods. (As opposed to a clone, a twin, etc.) This stuff is incredibly straightforward. Blame your school system and your mother for your failures at comprehension, don't blame the MCU.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 6, 2019 17:13:46 GMT
Do you think he will come back and either thank you for answering his questions or offer any rebuttal to your answers? Was there ever any doubt?
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Post by scabab on May 6, 2019 17:19:51 GMT
They never showed Ned, MJ, or any of Peter's classmates turned to dust. Of course not. If they showed the fate of every single character then the movie would never end. Presumably though since they didn't age, which you said, then they must have. Doesn't take much common sense to put that together.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 6, 2019 17:22:39 GMT
So Ant-Man needs Pym particles to shrink down to ant-size to escape through a locked cage? MAKES NO SEMSE AT ALL!!! So when Enterprise-D told Zefram Cochrane that he was going to be the 1st human to make a successful warp spped flight, that changed the timeline and Zefram Cochrane never made that 1st warp speed flight? Once again you've ignored the question: What law of time travel says that if you tell someone something is going to happen, then that something won't happen? BULLSHIT!!! When Past Gamora asked how there could be 2 Nebulas, Thanos said it was just 1 Nebula but in 2 different time periods. So it wasn't 2 different Nebulas. It was the same Nebula, which is why Thanos was able to access Past Nebula and Present Nebula shared the same memories. And like all laws of time travel, when the past person dies the present and future person ceases to exist. Um yeah, he needs Pym particles to do that. Not sure why you keep bringing up other films when they explain in this film that other movies got time travel wrong. 1 Nebula as in the same person in two different time periods. (As opposed to a clone, a twin, etc.) This stuff is incredibly straightforward. Blame your school system and your mother for your failures at comprehension, don't blame the MCU. No, Endgame gets tine travel wrong, 1st, none of you have answered the question: What law of time travel says that if someone is told something will happen, then that something won't happen? 2nd, it's a basic law of time travel that if a past person dies, then the present and future person ceases to exist. It's the same person so there's just no way around that basic law of time travel. This is incredibly straightforward. The Endgame writers were too stupid to understand that simple concept so they got lazy and tried to make up some bullshit excuse for their bad writing.
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