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Post by poutinep on May 6, 2019 17:24:35 GMT
plausible contributing factor - he was low on Pym particles. So Ant-Man needs Pym particles to shrink down to ant-size to escape through a locked cage? If you were just stuck in the Quantum Realm for 5 hours, lost contact with Hank/Hope/Janet a minute after going in, and came out somewhere you didn't expect, would you really shrink down again unnecessarily before you figured out what happened? Are you that dumb and reckless? Um yeah, he needs Pym particles to do that. Not sure why you keep bringing up other films when they explain in this film that other movies got time travel wrong. 1 Nebula as in the same person in two different time periods. (As opposed to a clone, a twin, etc.) This stuff is incredibly straightforward. Blame your school system and your mother for your failures at comprehension, don't blame the MCU. No, Endgame gets tine travel wrong, LOL WHAT? Time travel isn't fucking real. You can't 'get it wrong,' you just make up your own rules and abide by them. No writer using time travel is obligated to use any other writer's time travel rules.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 6, 2019 17:27:26 GMT
Um yeah, he needs Pym particles to do that. Not sure why you keep bringing up other films when they explain in this film that other movies got time travel wrong. 1 Nebula as in the same person in two different time periods. (As opposed to a clone, a twin, etc.) This stuff is incredibly straightforward. Blame your school system and your mother for your failures at comprehension, don't blame the MCU. No, Endgame gets tine travel wrong, 1st, none of you have answered the question: What law of time travel says that if someone is told something will happen, then that something won't happen? 2nd, it's a basic law of time travel that if a past person dies, then the present and future person ceases to exist. It's the same person so there's just no way around that basic law of time travel. This is incredibly straightforward. The Endgame writers were too stupid to understand that simple concept so they got lazy and tried to make up some bullshit excuse for their bad writing. I'd like to start off with chuckling at you talking about 'laws of time travel.' That aside, there's no law regarding telling someone what happens. Strange didn't want to take the chance since he knows they win if he doesn't say anything to Tony. Again, they explained how other films got time travel wrong. Time is a flat circle. We experience it in a linear fashion but that isn't how it works. Your past you becomes your future you once you travel to that point in time and make a change.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 6, 2019 17:27:56 GMT
They never showed Ned, MJ, or any of Peter's classmates turned to dust. If they showed the fate of every single character then the movie would never end. They showed Spider-Man, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Bucky, Starlord, Groot, Mantis, Falcon, Nick Fury, and Maria Hill all turned to dust. But they couldn't take 5 seconds to show Ned and MJ turn to dust?
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Post by Nicko's Nose on May 6, 2019 17:30:16 GMT
If they showed the fate of every single character then the movie would never end. They showed Spider-Man, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Bucky, Starlord, Groot, Mantis, Falcon, Nick Fury, and Maria Hill all turned to dust. But they couldn't take 5 seconds to show Ned and MJ turn to dust? No because those characters are secondary.
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Post by poutinep on May 6, 2019 17:33:53 GMT
If they showed the fate of every single character then the movie would never end. But they couldn't take 5 seconds to show Ned and MJ turn to dust? LOLOL That would have been so fucking stupid. Just show a bunch of characters - that weren't in the movie - turning to dust just so some idiot can have a complete accounting of who turned to dust to establish context for a movie that won't be out for more than a year? You think that would have been a good thing to include?
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Post by DC-Fan on May 6, 2019 17:34:52 GMT
No, Endgame gets tine travel wrong, 1st, none of you have answered the question: What law of time travel says that if someone is told something will happen, then that something won't happen? 2nd, it's a basic law of time travel that if a past person dies, then the present and future person ceases to exist. It's the same person so there's just no way around that basic law of time travel. This is incredibly straightforward. The Endgame writers were too stupid to understand that simple concept so they got lazy and tried to make up some bullshit excuse for their bad writing. Strange didn't want to take the chance since he knows they win if he doesn't say anything to Tony. That is the dumbest explanation ever. If Strange only HOPED that Tony would know what to do, then why risk not telling Tony and risk Tony not knowing what to do and getting it wrong? But you're saying that Strange is omniscient and able to predict the future and KNEW (not HOPED) 100% that Tony would know what to do, despite the fact that the Avengers already failed to stop Thanos the 1st time. Like I said, that's just bad writing.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 6, 2019 17:36:06 GMT
But they couldn't take 5 seconds to show Ned and MJ turn to dust? LOLOL That would have been so fucking stupid. Just show a bunch of characters - that weren't in the movie - turning to dust So Nick Fury and Maria Hill were in Infinity War, other than the post-credit scene?
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Post by poutinep on May 6, 2019 17:36:07 GMT
Strange didn't want to take the chance since he knows they win if he doesn't say anything to Tony. That is the dumbest explanation ever. If Strange only HOPED that Tony would know what to do, then why risk not telling Tony and risk Tony not knowing what to do and getting it wrong? But you're saying that Strange is omniscient and able to predict the future and KNEW (not HOPED) 100% that Tony would know what to do, despite the fact that the Avengers already failed to stop Thanos the 1st time. Like I said, that's just bad writing. you're the kind of person that if he traveled through time, would end up becoming his own grandfather.
Strange
A. is a genius B. has eidetic memory C. saw all possible 14,000,605 futures.
He didn't have to 'hope' because he was, in this context, omniscient.
LOLOL That would have been so fucking stupid. Just show a bunch of characters - that weren't in the movie - turning to dust So Nick Fury and Maria Hill were in Infinity War, other than the post-credit scene? That's called bridging the gap, like many MCU mid or post credits scenes do. It was to set up Captain Marvel's involvement in defeating Thanos.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 6, 2019 17:37:40 GMT
They showed Spider-Man, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Bucky, Starlord, Groot, Mantis, Falcon, Nick Fury, and Maria Hill all turned to dust. But they couldn't take 5 seconds to show Ned and MJ turn to dust? No because those characters are secondary. So Maria Hill (who was shown turning to dust) is a primary character and not a secondary character?
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Post by Nicko's Nose on May 6, 2019 17:40:49 GMT
No because those characters are secondary. So Maria Hill (who was shown turning to dust) is a primary character and not a secondary character? She was with Nick Fury who is a primary character so it was inevitable to see her turn into dust.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on May 6, 2019 17:50:48 GMT
You’re trying way too hard to find flaws as usual.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on May 6, 2019 17:53:49 GMT
Welcome back! Some of us actually thought you died.
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Post by poutinep on May 6, 2019 17:54:25 GMT
You’re trying way too hard to find flaws as usual. It's funny that he acts like Endgame is so bad and Batman v Superman is so good when he rated them both a 4/10
Welcome back! Some of us actually thought you died. I did! I actually searched for an obituary... disappointing.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on May 6, 2019 17:58:39 GMT
I thought maybe he had committed suicide after seeing the RT score and the box office numbers. The sad thing is I’m not even kidding.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 18:01:30 GMT
You're back. I was starting to think you gave up on movies and took up golf.
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Post by scabab on May 6, 2019 18:04:08 GMT
They showed Spider-Man, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Bucky, Starlord, Groot, Mantis, Falcon, Nick Fury, and Maria Hill all turned to dust. But they couldn't take 5 seconds to show Ned and MJ turn to dust? Because most of them were significant characters already in the movie. They didn't show what happened to Aunt May, Happy Hogan, Jane Porter, Darcy, Thunderbolt Ross, Wong, Korg etc. Any uncertainty on whether they were to turned to dust or not is now made clear. They haven't aged so they turned to dust. This isn't gonna be your new gimmick for this particular movie is it? Like the Killmonger DNA test?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 6, 2019 18:16:06 GMT
Strange didn't want to take the chance since he knows they win if he doesn't say anything to Tony. That is the dumbest explanation ever. If Strange only HOPED that Tony would know what to do, then why risk not telling Tony and risk Tony not knowing what to do and getting it wrong? But you're saying that Strange is omniscient and able to predict the future and KNEW (not HOPED) 100% that Tony would know what to do, despite the fact that the Avengers already failed to stop Thanos the 1st time. Like I said, that's just bad writing. He didn't hope. He knew they won if he didn't say anything. This was established in the previous film. Can't you read? Seriously, you quoted it. Can't you read?
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Post by taylorfirst1 on May 6, 2019 18:46:43 GMT
They never showed Ned, MJ, or any of Peter's classmates turned to dust. Of course not. If they showed the fate of every single character then the movie would never end. Presumably though since they didn't age, which you said, then they must have. Doesn't take much common sense to put that together. It's sort of like 1 + 1 = 2.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 6, 2019 18:49:27 GMT
They showed Spider-Man, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Bucky, Starlord, Groot, Mantis, Falcon, Nick Fury, and Maria Hill all turned to dust. But they couldn't take 5 seconds to show Ned and MJ turn to dust? Because most of them were significant characters already in the movie. They didn't show what happened to Aunt May, Happy Hogan, Jane Porter, Darcy, Thunderbolt Ross, Wong, Korg etc. Any uncertainty on whether they were to turned to dust or not is now made clear. They haven't aged so they turned to dust. Even if they turned to dust, it still doesn't make any sense that they would be back at the high school. After 5 years, the high school would've gotten a whole new group of students so there wouldn't have been any space for the dusted students to just return to the school after a 5-year absence. It didn't make any sense at all.
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Post by miike80 on May 6, 2019 18:56:31 GMT
Ned Leeds was turned to dust no? If none of the classmates turned to dust then they shouldn't have aged and should still be of school age. They never showed Ned, MJ, or any of Peter's classmates turned to dust. You mean they didn't show ALL those trillion beings being turned to dust? Plot-hole!!!
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