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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jan 28, 2021 2:49:53 GMT
I know 2 persons who were diagnosed with it—they’re both dead. Assuming they did die from it and not some other health issue that gets slapped with it. Anyway I am not worried about it. I certainly am not going to take a vaccine because a Chinese asshole ate a bat.
They were sisters. One caught it somewhere and infected the other. Doubtful they both happened to die around the same time from something else.
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Post by goz on Jan 28, 2021 2:55:12 GMT
If nukes aren't real then wtf did we drop on Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Man you conspiracy theory types are a hoot! Being intelligent enough to build nukes and being socially regressive are not mutually exclusive at all. Well since you ask, my understanding is that they were firebombed and that was what Japan reported. It is quite interesting if this is true because then all those atomic monster movies, Godzilla etc, was intended as propaganda to push the bomb narrative.
And Kubrick, who is linked to the alleged moon conspiracy, also did a film on the bomb so..
The question I have, is in JFK, there's scenes of declassified nuke tests at the beginning--houses being blown up in closeup--and how did they get a zoom lens to photograph that without shattering the lens?
How did they photograph those closeups? I know they claim they used some superduper camera housing for the far away mushroom cloud ones, but how did they get the closeup?
You can fake a mushroom cloud effect with a water tank. They used it in Superman the movie.
But others say conventional tnt could produce a huge explosion like they showed in the tests.
Are YOU for real? Conspiracy theorists and those who believe this shit would have to be the bottom feeders of all intelligence.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jan 28, 2021 3:21:31 GMT
Are YOU for real? Conspiracy theorists and those who believe this shit would have to be the bottom feeders of all intelligence. I think what's interesting about it is how it never gets talked about officially. It's ok to question the moon landing, JFK, all sorts of things but the possibility that nukes are a huuge lie, no, not even possible. I think if mini nukes existed--they would have used them by now. And as I said, Pakistan? Forget it. It has no nuke program.
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Post by goz on Jan 28, 2021 3:26:57 GMT
Are YOU for real? Conspiracy theorists and those who believe this shit would have to be the bottom feeders of all intelligence. I think what's interesting about it is how it never gets talked about officially. It's ok to question the moon landing, JFK, all sorts of things but the possibility that nukes are a huuge lie, no, not even possible. I think if mini nukes existed--they would have used them by now. And as I said, Pakistan? Forget it. It has no nuke program.
How did the many thousands of people in Hiroshima and Nagssaki die of Nuclear fallout nuclear fallout ?
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Post by Prime etc. on Jan 28, 2021 5:12:19 GMT
How did the many thousands of people in Hiroshima and Nagssaki die of Nuclear fallout nuclear fallout ? Firebombing is bad too.
There's a book by a Japanese guy on it:
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Post by goz on Jan 28, 2021 5:18:09 GMT
How did the many thousands of people in Hiroshima and Nagssaki die of Nuclear fallout nuclear fallout ? Firebombing is bad too.
There's a book by a Japanese guy on it: I didn't ask whether fire bombing was bad, I asked how you account for the deaths from nuclear fallout and radioactivity.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jan 28, 2021 5:24:26 GMT
I didn't ask whether fire bombing was bad, I asked how you account for the deaths from nuclear fallout and radioactivity. Well the guy gives information on the effects of firebombing. The burning images are consistent with firebombing. I dont think lying was invented in the 21 st century--so who knows how much they twisted things. But I know Chernobyl has returned to normal. Supposedly Hiroshima was so contaminated the people there were shunned for marriage. I wonder if that is true.
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Post by Winston Wolf on Jan 28, 2021 6:40:44 GMT
....so have you guys heard from him or no?
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Post by wickedkittiesmom on Jan 28, 2021 10:47:47 GMT
....so have you guys heard from him or no? He's on another IMDb board and is posting about the songs of summer.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 28, 2021 22:33:05 GMT
I know someone who was diagnosed with it, she recovered fine--she knows 5 other people-same thing. I know 2 persons who were diagnosed with it—they’re both dead. Sorry to hear that man. I imagine for people like you people like ToastedCheese must be especially infuriating. I'm lucky that I haven't lost anyone close to me but I know people who have. I also know some people who work in the medical profession and this has really taken a toll on them. Sure must be nice for people like Toasted living in their isolated bubbles where if it's not affecting them so they don't care and can concoct whatever fantasy suits their tastes.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 28, 2021 22:33:31 GMT
Got any of that evidence on why CV statistics can't be trusted or are inaccurate? Got any evidence of that MSM fear-mongering? No? Still just whittling away at your wooden helmet to protect you from government mind probes? Unlike you, I greatly appreciate when my knowledge/intellect is criticized since that's how I learn and improve; but you have to come with actual facts, evidence, and reason, and not just brain fart accusations and insults like you've done. Just like the last time we got into it the only evidence you provide is how deeply insecure your are. At least you appreciate your own boring droning self-addressed intellect. Now if anything, that is insecure, because you need constant validation. Most lefties chumps are like that.
I will await for your evidence that we aren't being manipulated by disloyal and devious establishment rule. Oh, its all around us, you just have the blinkers on and can't register it. Must be that brick logic wall of yours hindering your haughty process again. Yes, MY constant need for validation... the guy who has less than 1/4 of the posts on here that you have!  Once again you prove that you have no idea how this works. YOU'RE the one claiming we're being manipulated so YOU'RE the one who has the burden of proof to demonstrate that. If it's so "all around us" then you should have no problem supplying the evidence. I'm eagerly awaiting it. Assuming they did die from it and not some other health issue that gets slapped with it. Anyway I am not worried about it. I certainly am not going to take a vaccine because a Chinese asshole ate a bat. It has to be Covid that caused it, it suits the promulgated fearful narrative better.
I'm still waiting to hear you guys' theory about what (if not CV) caused all those excess deaths in 2020, or why you think doctors would be writing CV on death certificates if patients didn't die from CV (or complications from it).
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Post by mystery on Jan 29, 2021 2:42:24 GMT
My brother in law's 92 year old grandmother with multiple health problems shrugged off Covid like it was a mild cold. It's crazy how the virus is like Russian roulette.
As far as excess deaths, if people are too afraid to go to the doctor for regular health check ups, or too afraid to go to the hospital during an emergency, then that could certainly add to the death count. People being cooped up at home for prolonged periods of time might take risks in various ways, from home improvement misadventures, to alcohol or drug abuse, to suicide. I did some stupid things while working on my house last summer, but fortunately I lived to tell about it. I'm not sure why people seem to think the excess deaths are all from Covid. The lockdown itself certainly had some unintended consequences.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 29, 2021 7:54:22 GMT
My brother in law's 92 year old grandmother with multiple health problems shrugged off Covid like it was a mild cold. It's crazy how the virus is like Russian roulette. As far as excess deaths, if people are too afraid to go to the doctor for regular health check ups, or too afraid to go to the hospital during an emergency, then that could certainly add to the death count. People being cooped up at home for prolonged periods of time might take risks in various ways, from home improvement misadventures, to alcohol or drug abuse, to suicide. I did some stupid things while working on my house last summer, but fortunately I lived to tell about it. I'm not sure why people seem to think the excess deaths are all from Covid. The lockdown itself certainly had some unintended consequences. What makes you think people aren't going to doctors or hospitals? I know people who work as both and they've been overwhelmed. The other stuff you mention like risk-taking and home improvement mishaps happen during non-CV years and account for very few deaths anyway and there's no data I'm aware of that they've spiked during lockdown. That combined with the aforementioned hospitals being overwhelmed with CV all points to CV being the cause.
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Post by Winter_King on Jan 29, 2021 9:41:00 GMT
Are YOU for real? Conspiracy theorists and those who believe this shit would have to be the bottom feeders of all intelligence. I think what's interesting about it is how it never gets talked about officially. It's ok to question the moon landing, JFK, all sorts of things but the possibility that nukes are a huuge lie, no, not even possible. I think if mini nukes existed--they would have used them by now. And as I said, Pakistan? Forget it. It has no nuke program.
You can question the existence of nukes. The main reason why it's never talked it's probably because even most conspiracy theoriest don't believe that one considering the amount of nuclear tests conducted from the end of Second World War until the 1990s Still not as bad as the one about "the world being flat and NASA is hiding it."
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Post by Stammerhead on Jan 29, 2021 10:16:20 GMT
He’s been deep stated.  Joking aside even though I took issue with his conspiracy theories I didn’t really mind him (even liked him at times) and hope he sneaks back in one day. |
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Post by mystery on Jan 29, 2021 12:47:43 GMT
My brother in law's 92 year old grandmother with multiple health problems shrugged off Covid like it was a mild cold. It's crazy how the virus is like Russian roulette. As far as excess deaths, if people are too afraid to go to the doctor for regular health check ups, or too afraid to go to the hospital during an emergency, then that could certainly add to the death count. People being cooped up at home for prolonged periods of time might take risks in various ways, from home improvement misadventures, to alcohol or drug abuse, to suicide. I did some stupid things while working on my house last summer, but fortunately I lived to tell about it. I'm not sure why people seem to think the excess deaths are all from Covid. The lockdown itself certainly had some unintended consequences. What makes you think people aren't going to doctors or hospitals? I know people who work as both and they've been overwhelmed. The other stuff you mention like risk-taking and home improvement mishaps happen during non-CV years and account for very few deaths anyway and there's no data I'm aware of that they've spiked during lockdown. That combined with the aforementioned hospitals being overwhelmed with CV all points to CV being the cause. I don't think there is any data out yet, because there usually seems to be a lag of a year or two before it all gets compiled. But, if people are in a high risk group and they are strongly warned to isolate themselves from exposure to CV, then obviously some will skip doctors appointments, and some will ignore symptoms of major health emergencies rather than going to the hospital to get it checked out. The fact that hospitals have been overwhelmed would only further discourage people from seeking care. It's just common sense, really. And there has been a major boom in home improvement projects, which is why home improvement stores have been doing so well during the pandemic. Alcohol sales have also been booming. People get stressed out and depressed, and that has repercussions on their health, too. People tend to get tunnel vision and try to blame everything on CV. Sometimes it's better to step back and see what other potential factors may be involved. |
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 29, 2021 22:59:33 GMT
What makes you think people aren't going to doctors or hospitals? I know people who work as both and they've been overwhelmed. The other stuff you mention like risk-taking and home improvement mishaps happen during non-CV years and account for very few deaths anyway and there's no data I'm aware of that they've spiked during lockdown. That combined with the aforementioned hospitals being overwhelmed with CV all points to CV being the cause. I don't think there is any data out yet, because there usually seems to be a lag of a year or two before it all gets compiled. But, if people are in a high risk group and they are strongly warned to isolate themselves from exposure to CV, then obviously some will skip doctors appointments, and some will ignore symptoms of major health emergencies rather than going to the hospital to get it checked out. The fact that hospitals have been overwhelmed would only further discourage people from seeking care. It's just common sense, really. And there has been a major boom in home improvement projects, which is why home improvement stores have been doing so well during the pandemic. Alcohol sales have also been booming. People get stressed out and depressed, and that has repercussions on their health, too. People tend to get tunnel vision and try to blame everything on CV. Sometimes it's better to step back and see what other potential factors may be involved. Nobody is advising anyone not to go to doctors or ERs when necessary. The fact that ERs have been overwhelmed is evidence that people ARE going when necessary, unless you think every single ER case is CV. I'll bet you anything you want with any odds you want that no stat is ever going to show that the bulk of those excess deaths were caused by anything other than CV. Not to mention that you can look at excess deaths while excluding things like accidents, murders, suicides, etc. A lot of people have also taken this time to get healthy, start a workout routine, get into baking or other hobbies, while avoiding certain risk-taking things like drinking & driving after going out and partying. There's also been a huge boom in the success of OnlyFans too, which is a pretty damn safe activity unless people are erotically asphyxiating themselves while doing it. The notion that there's more risk with people staying at home rather than going out is absolutely absurd. It's not tunnel vision; there's simply nothing else that could reasonably account for those excess deaths. The stuff you're mentioning like home improvement accidents probably accounts for a few thousand deaths a year. At the peak of CV we were having 10-20k excess deaths a week.
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Post by mystery on Jan 29, 2021 23:44:40 GMT
I don't think there is any data out yet, because there usually seems to be a lag of a year or two before it all gets compiled. But, if people are in a high risk group and they are strongly warned to isolate themselves from exposure to CV, then obviously some will skip doctors appointments, and some will ignore symptoms of major health emergencies rather than going to the hospital to get it checked out. The fact that hospitals have been overwhelmed would only further discourage people from seeking care. It's just common sense, really. And there has been a major boom in home improvement projects, which is why home improvement stores have been doing so well during the pandemic. Alcohol sales have also been booming. People get stressed out and depressed, and that has repercussions on their health, too. People tend to get tunnel vision and try to blame everything on CV. Sometimes it's better to step back and see what other potential factors may be involved. Nobody is advising anyone not to go to doctors or ERs when necessary. The fact that ERs have been overwhelmed is evidence that people ARE going when necessary, unless you think every single ER case is CV. I'll bet you anything you want with any odds you want that no stat is ever going to show that the bulk of those excess deaths were caused by anything other than CV. Not to mention that you can look at excess deaths while excluding things like accidents, murders, suicides, etc. A lot of people have also taken this time to get healthy, start a workout routine, get into baking or other hobbies, while avoiding certain risk-taking things like drinking & driving after going out and partying. There's also been a huge boom in the success of OnlyFans too, which is a pretty damn safe activity unless people are erotically asphyxiating themselves while doing it. The notion that there's more risk with people staying at home rather than going out is absolutely absurd. It's not tunnel vision; there's simply nothing else that could reasonably account for those excess deaths. The stuff you're mentioning like home improvement accidents probably accounts for a few thousand deaths a year. At the peak of CV we were having 10-20k excess deaths a week. People avoid seeking medical treatment out of fear, not because they are advised to do so. If someone is having chest pains, they may decide to wait to see if it goes away rather than risking a trip to the hospital. Even minor delays in care can be lethal. Being under lockdown is detrimental to people's health, both physically and mentally. There are many articles about the elderly and vulnerable dying from loneliness. They simply lose the will to live and give up. I know younger people who are struggling with substance abuse issues due to the emotional distress of the pandemic. Mental and emotional stressors could also trigger health crises like heart attack and stroke. I find it odd that you simply ignore these factors, because they seem quite obvious to me. |
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Post by goz on Feb 1, 2021 1:02:44 GMT
Yes, MY constant need for validation... the guy who has less than 1/4 of the posts on here that you have! Once again you prove that you have no idea how this works. YOU'RE the one claiming we're being manipulated so YOU'RE the one who has the burden of proof to demonstrate that. If it's so "all around us" then you should have no problem supplying the evidence. I'm eagerly awaiting it. I'm still waiting to hear you guys' theory about what (if not CV) caused all those excess deaths in 2020, or why you think doctors would be writing CV on death certificates if patients didn't die from CV (or complications from it). You have just as many opinions to project on here as anybody else, not to mention a palaver of circular rhetoric Eva.
As already mentioned, one can only know of something happening if reported. When it is, it is more than likely misinforming us with half truths.
The excess deaths are not spiked enough to make all this hysteria about. Again, that comes down to MSM propagation. Its nature taking its course and sorry to those who have weakened immunity systems, but c'est la vie. I am not going lose sleep over all these abstract of statistics which don't paint the entire whole picture.
The majority of deaths are in the demographic of those already in poor health or already on their last legs. I find it more upsetting when I walk past a myriad of shops and businesses with closed doors and for lease signs on the window. Death is not a new phenomena Eva. Live in fear if you so choose, but stop projecting that you really care. I don't!
Covid denial is the penaltimate sign of extreme stupidity.
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