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Post by moviemouth on Feb 26, 2021 3:42:32 GMT
I don't think so, but I suppose an argument can be made for House of Wax. And Then There Were None is a murder mystery, not a horror movie. That is the distinction there. Slasher movies are a horror subgenre. I suppose you can say that Agatha Christie is the original inspiration for all these movies if you go very broadly. As you can tell by now I'm just a casual fan of the genre but I do think inspiration can come from different things. Not always one individual thing but multiple things that get melded together. I don't disagree with you. Inspiration is always pulled from multiple sources.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 3:46:43 GMT
Have you seen Targets (1968)? That is a clever commentary on the shift in culture that happened in the 1960s that led to a change from horror movies being supernatural monster movies and gothic tales to slasher movies. It is Boris Karloff essentially playing himself retiring against the backdrop of a mass murderer who is picking people off with a sniper rifle. It has one of the earliest visceral scenes of mass murder that I have seen. I haven't even heard of this one. I'll have to look for it. I'm trying to remember a movie I saw last year from the 60's. It's about a couple who end up staying with different people and end up killing them. I know it's a B movie but can't remember the name. I thought it was very well done. Sound familiar?
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 26, 2021 3:48:43 GMT
Have you seen Targets (1968)? That is a clever commentary on the shift in culture that happened in the 1960s that led to a change from horror movies being supernatural monster movies and gothic tales to slasher movies. It is Boris Karloff essentially playing himself retiring against the backdrop of a mass murderer who is picking people off with a sniper rifle. It has one of the earliest visceral scenes of mass murder that I have seen. I haven't even heard of this one. I'll have to look for it. I'm trying to remember a movie I saw last year from the 60's. It's about a couple who end up staying with different people and end up killing them. I know it's a B movie but can't remember the name. I thought it was very well done. Sound familiar? Not at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 3:54:02 GMT
The irony is that think the majority of slasher movies are dumb and boring, including the Friday the 13th franchise. April Fool's Day is one of the best slasher movies imo. I haven't seen Happy Birthday To Me. Where did Hitchcock get the inspiration for Psycho? My first guess is the novel it is based on. That's true. That's why I more or less gave up on it many years ago. Sometimes we get surprised. April Fool's Day is one that I can watch multiple times. LOL, well there you go. I like Hitchcock but most of my favorites are not the ones that most people like. I had no idea that it was a novel!
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 26, 2021 3:58:04 GMT
The irony is that think the majority of slasher movies are dumb and boring, including the Friday the 13th franchise. April Fool's Day is one of the best slasher movies imo. I haven't seen Happy Birthday To Me. Where did Hitchcock get the inspiration for Psycho? My first guess is the novel it is based on. That's true. That's why I more or less gave up on it many years ago. Sometimes we get surprised. April Fool's Day is one that I can watch multiple times. LOL, well there you go. I like Hitchcock but most of my favorites are not the ones that most people like. I had no idea that it was a novel! Interesting. Such as?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 4:03:15 GMT
This is a little more in line with me. This film may have not been the original inspiration for noir but it catapulted into popularity for the next 20 years. Definitely in the category of crime noir.
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 26, 2021 4:08:36 GMT
This is a little more in line with me. This film may have not been the original inspiration for noir but it catapulted into popularity for the next 20 years. Definitely in the category of crime noir. I use to not be much of a fan of the film noir genre, but it has really grown on me over the years.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 4:12:03 GMT
I guess I shouldn't say that people don't like but they usually don't mention them as favorites. The Wrong Man Lifeboat The Lady Vanishes Shadow of Doubt The Lodger They are the ones that come to mind. There may be one that I'm not thinking about that could be switched.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 4:16:39 GMT
I use to not be much of a fan of the film noir genre, but it has really grown on me over the years. Yeah, it's one of those things that the more you watch the more you appreciate. So many great movies and so many great behind the scenes stories.
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 26, 2021 4:18:31 GMT
I guess I shouldn't say that people don't like but they usually don't mention them as favorites. The Wrong Man Lifeboat The Lady Vanishes Shadow of Doubt The Lodger They are the ones that come to mind. There may be one that I'm not thinking about that could be switched. Shadow of a Doubt doesn't do much for me, but I am a fan of the rest. Most of those are in my 10 favorite Hitchcock, but are still a distance behind Vertigo, Psycho, Rear Window and North By Northwest for me. A couple more I like quite a bit are I Confess, Stage Fright and Foreign Correspondent. One of his other extremely praised movies that I don't have much feeling towards is Notorious.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 4:18:41 GMT
I never expected this thread to take off in this way. You nailed it. Great subject and great conversation.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 4:30:00 GMT
Grand Hotel is an interesting take and I wouldn't have thought of it. Multiple stories all taking place at the same time? Pulp Fiction, definitely. With all the fast paced dialogue in Pulp Fiction, it reminds me of all the witty fast banter in the screwball comedies from the 30's.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 4:44:53 GMT
Shadow of a Doubt doesn't do much for me, but I am a fan of the rest. Most of those are in my 10 favorite Hitchcock, but are still a distance behind Vertigo, Psycho, Rear Window and North By Northwest for me. A couple more I like quite a bit are I Confess, Stage Fright and Foreign Correspondent. One of his other extremely praised movies that I don't have much feeling towards is Notorious. I think I like Shadow of Doubt because it's so relatable. Especially these days. You find out somebody you've known and loved your whole life is not what they appear to be. In this case it's a murderer but it doesn't necessarily need to be a killer to be relatable. See, I didn't even think about I Confess or Stage Fright. They'd be top 10 for me. I'm not a big fan Of Notorious, either. Nor Spellbound for that matter. I'm a huge Jimmy Stewart fan and while I liked Vertigo and Rear Window but I prefer Man Who Knew Too Much. Even that one isn't one of my favorites. I didn't like some of the "cartoony" scenes and a few other things.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 4:50:26 GMT
What about Fast Times at Ridgemont High? Animal House?
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 26, 2021 5:03:02 GMT
What about Fast Times at Ridgemont High? Animal House? Good call on that one.
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 26, 2021 5:09:10 GMT
Shadow of a Doubt doesn't do much for me, but I am a fan of the rest. Most of those are in my 10 favorite Hitchcock, but are still a distance behind Vertigo, Psycho, Rear Window and North By Northwest for me. A couple more I like quite a bit are I Confess, Stage Fright and Foreign Correspondent. One of his other extremely praised movies that I don't have much feeling towards is Notorious. I think I like Shadow of Doubt because it's so relatable. Especially these days. You find out somebody you've known and loved your whole life is not what they appear to be. In this case it's a murderer but it doesn't necessarily need to be a killer to be relatable. See, I didn't even think about I Confess or Stage Fright. They'd be top 10 for me. I'm not a big fan Of Notorious, either. Nor Spellbound for that matter. I'm a huge Jimmy Stewart fan and while I liked Vertigo and Rear Window but I prefer Man Who Knew Too Much. Even that one isn't one of my favorites. I didn't like some of the "cartoony" scenes and a few other things. The Man Who Knew Too Much is one his his lesser efforts imo. I don't find Shadow of a Doubt relatable, but my issue is that I don't find it suspenseful and I am indifferent to the characters. Spellbound I am a fan of. It is right up my alley, but it isn't as good as the other movies I mentioned.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Feb 26, 2021 8:32:38 GMT
I can't argue with any of this. My only question is where did Hitchcock get his inspiration for Psycho? The 80's were an awesome decade for these films. Happy Birthday to Me and April Fools Day are two of my favorites. The irony is that think the majority of slasher movies are dumb and boring, including the Friday the 13th franchise. April Fool's Day is one of the best slasher movies imo. I haven't seen Happy Birthday To Me. Where did Hitchcock get the inspiration for Psycho? My first guess is the novel it is based on. Which in turn is inspired by Ed Gein, who'd be in the running for a thread for single serial killer that inspired the most movies, being the basis for also Buffalo Bill and Leatherface.
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Post by Morgana on Feb 26, 2021 9:01:09 GMT
The Godfather?
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 26, 2021 9:36:47 GMT
The irony is that think the majority of slasher movies are dumb and boring, including the Friday the 13th franchise. April Fool's Day is one of the best slasher movies imo. I haven't seen Happy Birthday To Me. Where did Hitchcock get the inspiration for Psycho? My first guess is the novel it is based on. Which in turn is inspired by Ed Gein, who'd be in the running for a thread for single serial killer that inspired the most movies, being the basis for also Buffalo Bill and Leatherface. Yup.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 26, 2021 13:28:31 GMT
Yeah, without it we wouldn’t have Grizzly.
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