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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Dec 14, 2021 15:49:07 GMT
Premier was last night and Spoilers are already out. So feel free to discuss it here.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Dec 14, 2021 17:30:46 GMT
I just realized it comes out this week. Shows how excited I am for it. I ended up getting tickets just in case it has some interesting nod to the greater MCU, but the more I think about it the less likely that seems. Fingers crossed it does something interesting.
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 14, 2021 20:05:47 GMT
Well RT scores are extremely high. Still not that excited about it. Was planning to watch it near the end of the year so I'll need to stay away from this thread for a bit.
There was a time I would have taken a day off to watch an MCU movie. Somebody please message me if this movie is worth taking a day off for.
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Post by onethreetwo on Dec 15, 2021 5:43:50 GMT
"...it's a movie that is so much fun, it doesn't need to be good."
- Larry Carroll, Looper
This is what I'm worried about, because once the high wears off we're gonna be stuck with a movie. Hopefully it's actually good. 96% as of right now.
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Post by scabab on Dec 15, 2021 15:17:47 GMT
I just came back from seeing it because it's out here now.
Loved the movie, surpassed Spider-Man 2 for me to become my new favourite Spider-Man movie.
I was sure that Toby Maguire and Andrew Garfield were gonna be in it because how could they not be but I was still very happy to see them both especially the former. They were in it for longer than I thought too, I figured they'd show up in the final battle scene but they were in it for two scenes beforehand as well.
Great too see all the villains again particular Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus.
Glad Matt Murdock is in it. Does that make the Netflix series canon now or is it just another version of Matt Murdock who happens to be played by Charlie Cox? Maybe if Kingpin appears in Hawkeye it could answer that.
I don't really have much bad to say about it. It was just a lot of fun. Really enjoyed it.
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Post by Lux on Dec 15, 2021 16:31:18 GMT
Peter Parker's stupidity in this movie is not to be underestimated it was good to see all the previous cinematic Spider-Men back and Willem, Jamie, Alfred, Tom Hardy and Rhys stole the show including Thomas the crowd screamed seeing the former Spider-Men and Benedict was good, but Tom Holland's Peter Parker's stupidity was beyond comprehension. He's to blame for the death of a relative. The action was good. Still don't like fatty and miscast Revolori but Zendaya did mildly better.
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Post by Vassaggo on Dec 16, 2021 20:30:47 GMT
Marvel/Disney threw out the Spidie no punching rule hardcore in this one.
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Post by Lux on Dec 17, 2021 0:25:00 GMT
Also Daredevil should've been involved in the final fight too.
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Post by azzajones on Dec 17, 2021 9:17:50 GMT
I don't recall ever hearing an audience cheer in a theatre before, so hearing deafening cheers when Garfield & Maguire turned up was surprising. Surprised by how little Garfield & Maguire were in the film, I definitely wanted more of the 3 Spider Men interacting, however their interactions worked well enough with some good heart & humour between them. The film managed to give each villain a good amount of screen time, and handled their character arcs well. The action scenes were done well and the FX didn't look fake.
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Post by Vassaggo on Dec 17, 2021 10:53:59 GMT
This movie might be the signal that people are done with the pandemic. My Niece saw it yesterday so did I but we live 100 miles apart. What really shows it though is that she has plans to see it 3 more times this weekend. One with her boyfriend, one with her friends, and one with her Paternal Grandmother. (Not my relatives my bro in laws Mom).
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Post by Lux on Dec 17, 2021 13:54:16 GMT
I don't recall ever hearing an audience cheer in a theatre before, so hearing deafening cheers when Garfield & Maguire turned up was surprising. Surprised by how little Garfield & Maguire were in the film, I definitely wanted more of the 3 Spider Men interacting, however their interactions worked well enough with some good heart & humour between them. The film managed to give each villain a good amount of screen time, and handled their character arcs well. The action scenes were done well and the FX didn't look fake. I think that Garfield and Maguire had more than enough screen time.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Dec 17, 2021 19:28:14 GMT
This movie might be the signal that people are done with the pandemic. My Niece saw it yesterday so did I but we live 100 miles apart. What really shows it though is that she has plans to see it 3 more times this weekend. One with her boyfriend, one with her friends, and one with her Paternal Grandmother. (Not my relatives my bro in laws Mom). Has she considered one theater trip with all of them, or do they all have an undying hatred of each other?
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Dec 17, 2021 19:29:23 GMT
Glad Matt Murdock is in it. Does that make the Netflix series canon now or is it just another version of Matt Murdock who happens to be played by Charlie Cox? Hopefully they learned their lesson from Quicksilver not to do that shit again.
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Post by Vassaggo on Dec 17, 2021 19:36:28 GMT
This movie might be the signal that people are done with the pandemic. My Niece saw it yesterday so did I but we live 100 miles apart. What really shows it though is that she has plans to see it 3 more times this weekend. One with her boyfriend, one with her friends, and one with her Paternal Grandmother. (Not my relatives my bro in laws Mom). Has she considered one theater trip with all of them, or do they all have an undying hatred of each other? I asked. Her Grandma can't do it till Sunday. She wants alone time with Boyfriend tonight and her girl friends want to have girls day Saturday.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Dec 17, 2021 19:39:58 GMT
Has she considered one theater trip with all of them, or do they all have an undying hatred of each other? I asked. Her Grandma can't do it till Sunday. She wants alone time with Boyfriend tonight and her girl friends want to have girls day Saturday. Talk about a multiverse.
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Post by onethreetwo on Dec 18, 2021 0:46:38 GMT
RIP my spoiler free first viewing. I just can't help myself. I'm okay with that though.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Dec 18, 2021 0:48:44 GMT
Best fucking Spider-Man film of all time. My favorite Spider-Man film of all time as well.
It's going to be hard to tip this one.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Dec 18, 2021 14:31:37 GMT
Let me say right off the bat that I liked it a lot more than I thought I would. The first few minutes had me worried it was going to be as awful as anticipated; then Matt Murdock showed up, which brought a smile to my face. Most importantly, the spell didn't work, so the movie thankfully wasn't entirely about Peter's secret identity. The villains and both previous Spideys had an appropriate amount of screen time, and didn't dominate the story on their own, which was the right call.
I still think the story overall is rather weak (Why doesn't Peter just ask Strange or Pepper Potts (Stark Industries CEO!) to vouch for his character instead of doing this ridiculous spell? Why does he even need to go to high school? Just take Ned and MJ and start your own thinktank, you have the brainpower and the backing of Stark Industries for goodness sake. Complete high school online, then move on to literally any college which gladly would accept a genius superhero and his ethnically diverse friends. It's kind of inexplicable that he'd still want to bother with high school at all, especially when he only really talks to MJ and Ned.) But I guess the movie functions well enough as a gateway to the multiverse, which was the whole point.
That being said, after worrying about the ramifications of him regaining his secret identity, I ultimately enjoy how the film plays out at the end. It's almost like a soft reboot of his character. Spidey to me has always been a neighborhood superhero, not a spacefaring alien fighter. I'm glad he isn't bogged down by the baggage of the previous films now, as sorry as I am to see May go, that storyline has gone as far as h needs to. And I much prefer the classic webslinger to Iron-Man lite that he's been thus far in the MCU. And the way the story plays out, it totally tracks that he'd choose to keep his friends safe by not letting them know.
One thing I didn't understand was why he went into a murderous rage. I don't believe anything, even May's death would send him over the edge like that. They basically concocted that sequence to give Tobey something heroic to do, since Andrew got to save MJ. It didn't ruin the move for me, but it really didn't make any sense.
Mid-credit scene I can do without. I hate what they've done with Venom in these movies. He's a dopey cartoon character, like a bad SNL sketch. I don't know what Hardy is doing, and that Venom voice is ridiculous. I can't sit through commercials for those movies, much less the movies themselves. Another good thing about this flick is that it proved I can still enjoy it without having seen the Garfield Spider-Man movies. This tells me I can skip any Venom appearances in the future but still not miss much with the overall narrative of the franchise. Because I can't sit through any movie with a significant Venom presence. Unless they're suggesting this leftover remnant of Venom will have a much different tone in this universe than his own, I'd be all for that.
Post-credit wasn't so much a post-credit but basically a teaser for MoM. Looks awesome, I'm a lot more excited for it than I was previously.
So yeah the film was a success, much better than the Adventures of Yellow Dog from a few years ago. This was pretty much a contract year for Spider-Man in my book, and he earned an extension.
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Post by Lux on Dec 18, 2021 21:30:26 GMT
Let me say right off the bat that I liked it a lot more than I thought I would. The first few minutes had me worried it was going to be as awful as anticipated; then Matt Murdock showed up, which brought a smile to my face. Most importantly, the spell didn't work, so the movie thankfully wasn't entirely about Peter's secret identity. The villains and both previous Spideys had an appropriate amount of screen time, and didn't dominate the story on their own, which was the right call. I still think the story overall is rather weak (Why doesn't Peter just ask Strange or Pepper Potts (Stark Industries CEO!) to vouch for his character instead of doing this ridiculous spell? Why does he even need to go to high school? Just take Ned and MJ and start your own thinktank, you have the brainpower and the backing of Stark Industries for goodness sake. Complete high school online, then move on to literally any college which gladly would accept a genius superhero and his ethnically diverse friends. It's kind of inexplicable that he'd still want to bother with high school at all, especially when he only really talks to MJ and Ned.) But I guess the movie functions well enough as a gateway to the multiverse, which was the whole point. That being said, after worrying about the ramifications of him regaining his secret identity, I ultimately enjoy how the film plays out at the end. It's almost like a soft reboot of his character. Spidey to me has always been a neighborhood superhero, not a spacefaring alien fighter. I'm glad he isn't bogged down by the baggage of the previous films now, as sorry as I am to see May go, that storyline has gone as far as h needs to. And I much prefer the classic webslinger to Iron-Man lite that he's been thus far in the MCU. And the way the story plays out, it totally tracks that he'd choose to keep his friends safe by not letting them know. One thing I didn't understand was why he went into a murderous rage. I don't believe anything, even May's death would send him over the edge like that. They basically concocted that sequence to give Tobey something heroic to do, since Andrew got to save MJ. It didn't ruin the move for me, but it really didn't make any sense. Mid-credit scene I can do without. I hate what they've done with Venom in these movies. He's a dopey cartoon character, like a bad SNL sketch. I don't know what Hardy is doing, and that Venom voice is ridiculous. I can't sit through commercials for those movies, much less the movies themselves. Another good thing about this flick is that it proved I can still enjoy it without having seen the Garfield Spider-Man movies. This tells me I can skip any Venom appearances in the future but still not miss much with the overall narrative of the franchise. Because I can't sit through any movie with a significant Venom presence. Unless they're suggesting this leftover remnant of Venom will have a much different tone in this universe than his own, I'd be all for that. Post-credit wasn't so much a post-credit but basically a teaser for MoM. Looks awesome, I'm a lot more excited for it than I was previously. So yeah the film was a success, much better than the Adventures of Yellow Dog from a few years ago. This was pretty much a contract year for Spider-Man in my book, and he earned an extension. You didn't understand his murderous rage? Are you joking? A man you're trying to help and rehabilitate kills your relative and you're going to buy him free cinema tickets to a Marvel movie of his choice?
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Post by Archelaus on Dec 18, 2021 22:21:15 GMT
I saw the movie last night, and this is one of the best Spider-Man films to date. There was a lot to take in, but I would easily see it again for a second time. Here are my thoughts: Pretty much the central drama comes from Peter not taking the MIT admissions administrator and resorts to using magic to solve his problem. It sounds like a very millennial thing, which I can relate with. When the villains arrived, I did appreciate the focus on rehabilitating them rather than sending them back to their deaths. It was great to see the old villains again. The de-aging work on Alfred Molina looked great. Jamie Foxx more or less portrayed himself as Electro. Thomas Haden Church returns as Sandman, although I was surprised he was not in his human form for most of the film. I did notice right away they repurposed footage of him from Spider-Man 3 near the end. The Lizard wasn't given hardly any characterization in this film. Willem Dafeo stole the film with his performance. He ditches the Goblin costume early on, and he is clearly more menacing when using his face. I did notice one odd plot contrivance. Doc Ock knew about Norman Osborne's death, but it was never stated in the Raimi films that he knew Osborne was the Green Goblin. Based on the trailers, I knew Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield would appear by the third act and both of them had more screen time that what I predicted. The audience during my screening erupted with applause when each of them appeared. All three Spider-Men had great interaction with each other and had colorful conversations about their own universes. The callbacks were fun with references to Tobey's back pain and his biological web shooters to Garfield's Spider-Man throwing shade at the Rhino. Furthermore, they even homage the famous Spider-Man pointing meme during the laboratory scene, and probably once more on the scaffolding. Aunt May dying was so sad and unexpected, but essentially she becomes the "Uncle Ben" of this universe. The last few minutes of the film were some of the best from any Spider-Man film. Upon reflection, the whole trilogy was an origin story for the MCU Spider-Man. He is now living on his own and has a homemade suit. It's almost like a soft reboot.
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