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Post by onethreetwo on Aug 21, 2022 1:12:10 GMT
Lets see what happens.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Aug 21, 2022 13:05:41 GMT
First episode leaked a day ahead of schedule. No one knows who did it but I think it's one of the dumb lizards.
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Post by onethreetwo on Aug 22, 2022 2:36:23 GMT
First and foremost at least now we know the show won't be a complete disaster. The pilot was serviceable and it looked great. Moreover the score was really beautiful, and there wasn't a bad performance from the cast. Everyone seems to be good actors. And there wasn't too much dragon nonsense.
I'd give the episode an 8 out of 10. I rolled my eyes a couple times and the story is a bit predictable.
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Post by shinnickneth on Aug 22, 2022 4:38:18 GMT
First and foremost at least now we know the show won't be a complete disaster. The pilot was serviceable and it looked great. Moreover the score was really beautiful, and there wasn't a bad performance from the cast. Everyone seems to be good actors. And there wasn't too much dragon nonsense.
I'd give the episode an 8 out of 10. I rolled my eyes a couple times and the story is a bit predictable. If you're hoping for a lack of dragons, you're honestly watching the wrong show. There's going to be a lot of them (each with their own unique personality according to the people behind the show). This period of time is the Targaryen's at the height of their power. The dragons have to be in it. I agree the cast is very good! Everything looks good in terms of CGI. It was interesting to see the throne room reverted back to how it looked in season 1 of GOT (before Joffrey changed it when he became king). I didn't mind the change to the Iron Throne. In its impracticality, it's actually rather practical as all those blades on the sides of the throne would protect the king. I liked how King Viserys kept cutting himself on the Iron Throne (something that's talked about repeatedly in the books is how the kings were always doing that). Viserys attending his Small Council meetings was an interesting change from Robert and Joffrey that didn't have the patience for such things. Great to see Dragonstone again and the references to the old houses/locations were done without seeming forced. I give the episode 9/10 with some off for the gratuitous sex and the lack of clarity on who was competing against each other in the tourney (that looked amazing in comparison to GOT season 1's tourney which was just a few people sitting in the crowd as they didn't have the budget back then).
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Aug 22, 2022 7:24:19 GMT
Enjoyed the pilot. Looking like a promising show. I reckon I'll miss Milly Alcock as Rhae.
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Post by stickman38 on Aug 22, 2022 16:53:33 GMT
It looks like you guys liked it a little more than I did. It was a pretty solid start but a little on the predictable side and for a GoT show, that's not a good sign.
But still, I will most likely keep watching just to see how it turns out. Princess Rhaenyra was the standout character from ep1 and perhaps this is a good thing, but the other characters felt a little dry. It looks like character development is going to be the show's biggest issue.
That being said, I will still give it a 71 out of 100. Pretty good episode. But it didn't really start getting good until about the last 30 minutes.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Aug 22, 2022 19:17:17 GMT
It looks like you guys liked it a little more than I did. It was a pretty solid start but a little on the predictable side and for a GoT show, that's not a good sign. But still, I will most likely keep watching just to see how it turns out. Princess Rhaenyra was the standout character from ep1 and perhaps this is a good thing, but the other characters felt a little dry. It looks like character development is going to be the show's biggest issue. That being said, I will still give it a 71 out of 100. Pretty good episode. But it didn't really start getting good until about the last 30 minutes. I see what you mean. I basically knew what the story was going to be from the casting and general plotline alone. Where GoT was very deconstructive and subversive, while also introducing twists and turns and a complex mystery in the very first episode, so far this is just The Lion King in Westeros. I know "subverting expectations" is a capital offense punishable by death these days, but hopefully things get a little more bendy.
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Post by stickman38 on Aug 22, 2022 19:36:08 GMT
It looks like you guys liked it a little more than I did. It was a pretty solid start but a little on the predictable side and for a GoT show, that's not a good sign. But still, I will most likely keep watching just to see how it turns out. Princess Rhaenyra was the standout character from ep1 and perhaps this is a good thing, but the other characters felt a little dry. It looks like character development is going to be the show's biggest issue. That being said, I will still give it a 71 out of 100. Pretty good episode. But it didn't really start getting good until about the last 30 minutes. I see what you mean. I basically knew what the story was going to be from the casting and general plotline alone. Where GoT was very deconstructive and subversive, while also introducing twists and turns and a complex mystery in the very first episode, so far this is just The Lion King in Westeros. I know "subverting expectations" is a capital offense punishable by death these days, but hopefully things get a little more bendy.
Yeah and from what I understand, Milly eventually gets replaced by an actress playing an older version of her character. I'm not sure this is a good idea unless we see a big leap forward in time on this show.
I haven't read the books and don't want any spoilers but she was the best character in the first episode, but it could be a disappointing moment to see her go. We'll see if she remains likeable.
Plus... ****minor spoiler for episode 1***
It looks like she's got the hots for Daemon. lol. talk about an odd union if he's planing to overthrow her reign.
But it could potentially make for an interesting story-line.
***end spoiler***
It's going to be really hard to match the impressive stories-lines and the great characters in GoT, so, this show is going to have to find another niche to stay interesting. We'll see what happens.
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Post by Winter_King on Aug 22, 2022 19:42:50 GMT
Solid pilot.
It felt like going back to it's roots. Political intrigue was always the most interesting thing about Game of Thrones and this time it looks like the entire series is going to be about the game of thrones.
Honestly, the part I disliked the most was the nod to the Long Night. Thank you for remind me how GOT ended.
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Post by Winter_King on Aug 22, 2022 19:45:32 GMT
It looks like you guys liked it a little more than I did. It was a pretty solid start but a little on the predictable side and for a GoT show, that's not a good sign. But still, I will most likely keep watching just to see how it turns out. Princess Rhaenyra was the standout character from ep1 and perhaps this is a good thing, but the other characters felt a little dry. It looks like character development is going to be the show's biggest issue. That being said, I will still give it a 71 out of 100. Pretty good episode. But it didn't really start getting good until about the last 30 minutes. I see what you mean. I basically knew what the story was going to be from the casting and general plotline alone. Where GoT was very deconstructive and subversive, while also introducing twists and turns and a complex mystery in the very first episode, so far this is just The Lion King in Westeros. I know "subverting expectations" is a capital offense punishable by death these days, but hopefully things get a little more bendy. The show seems to building to the Dance of Dragons: the Targaryen civil war. Unless it plays out very differently from what Martin wrote, it should have enough twists and turns and won't be just another "Lion King".
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Post by stickman38 on Aug 22, 2022 19:48:19 GMT
Solid pilot. It felt like going back to it's roots. Political intrigue was always the most interesting thing about Game of Thrones and this time it looks like the entire series is going to be about the game of thrones. Honestly, the part I disliked the most was the nod to the Long Night. Thank you for remind me how GOT ended.
Yeah, I kind of viewed that as a hint towards White Walkers too. I hope they don't make an appearance in this show, I never really cared for them in GoT.
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Post by Winter_King on Aug 22, 2022 19:51:45 GMT
Solid pilot. It felt like going back to it's roots. Political intrigue was always the most interesting thing about Game of Thrones and this time it looks like the entire series is going to be about the game of thrones. Honestly, the part I disliked the most was the nod to the Long Night. Thank you for remind me how GOT ended.
Yeah, I kind of viewed that as a hint towards White Walkers too. I hope they don't make an appearance in this show, I never really cared for them in GoT.
Yeah. I mean don't get me wrong, some episodes, like Hardhome were fantastic but I've always felt that the White Walkers plot was least interesting thing about the show and the books. The fight for the Iron Throne was always more interesting.
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Post by shinnickneth on Aug 22, 2022 20:32:38 GMT
It looks like you guys liked it a little more than I did. It was a pretty solid start but a little on the predictable side and for a GoT show, that's not a good sign. But still, I will most likely keep watching just to see how it turns out. Princess Rhaenyra was the standout character from ep1 and perhaps this is a good thing, but the other characters felt a little dry. It looks like character development is going to be the show's biggest issue. That being said, I will still give it a 71 out of 100. Pretty good episode. But it didn't really start getting good until about the last 30 minutes. The story will have twists. The first episode is just setting up the board.
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Post by shinnickneth on Aug 22, 2022 20:35:43 GMT
Yeah, I kind of viewed that as a hint towards White Walkers too. I hope they don't make an appearance in this show, I never really cared for them in GoT.
They won't. White Walkers haven't been seen for a 1,000 years when GOT starts. This show is set 172 years before GOT.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Aug 22, 2022 22:39:35 GMT
Just finished watching the first episode.
I thought it was very good.
Also the scene at the end where all the lords pledge their support of Rhaenyra, made me think of what happened in England in during the reign of Henry I when he had no male hair and named his daughter Matilda as his hair, but than her cousin Stephen stole the throne after Henry I died in 1135. And England and Normandy went into a civil war lasting 19 years, I wonder if George R.R Martin used the Anarchy as an inspiration of the Targaryen civil war.
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Post by stickman38 on Aug 22, 2022 23:00:08 GMT
Yeah, I kind of viewed that as a hint towards White Walkers too. I hope they don't make an appearance in this show, I never really cared for them in GoT.
They won't. White Walkers haven't been seen for a 1,000 years when GOT starts. This show is set 172 years before GOT. We'll see if this holds true, I hope you are correct. It's just that the dialogue sure did make it seem like we're going to see WW.
I think a lot of people actually liked the WW and this makes me think they'll add'em to please the fans.
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Post by stickman38 on Aug 22, 2022 23:02:59 GMT
Just finished watching the first episode. I thought it was very good. Also the scene at the end where all the lords pledge their support of Rhaenyra, made me think of what happened in England in during the reign of Henry I when he had no male hair and named his daughter Matilda as his hair, but than her cousin Stephen stole the throne after Henry I died in 1135. And England and Normandy went into a civil war lasting 19 years, I wonder if George R.R Martin used the Anarchy as an inspiration of the Targaryen civil war.
I haven't read the books but I heard Martin's story is loosely based on this time in history.
And it's 'monarchy' not anarchy. lol...
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Aug 22, 2022 23:07:03 GMT
Just finished watching the first episode. I thought it was very good. Also the scene at the end where all the lords pledge their support of Rhaenyra, made me think of what happened in England in during the reign of Henry I when he had no male hair and named his daughter Matilda as his hair, but than her cousin Stephen stole the throne after Henry I died in 1135. And England and Normandy went into a civil war lasting 19 years, I wonder if George R.R Martin used the Anarchy as an inspiration of the Targaryen civil war.
I haven't read the books but I heard Martin's story is loosely based on this time in history.
And it's 'monarchy' not anarchy. lol...
The Anarchy is the name of the civil war in England and Normandy that started in 1135 and ended in 1154. Which is what i wonder if George R.R Martin used as his inspiration for the Targaryen civil war. I should laugh your lack of knowledge about history, but i am not going to do that.
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Post by shinnickneth on Aug 23, 2022 5:22:28 GMT
We'll see if this holds true, I hope you are correct. It's just that the dialogue sure did make it seem like we're going to see WW.
I think a lot of people actually liked the WW and this makes me think they'll add'em to please the fans. The show runners said it was a way to give Rhaenyra a reason to see things above herself and accept being the heir over the concern for the seven kingdoms. We, as the audience, know the White Walker threat won't become important for another 72+ years, but for Rhaenyra, it could very well happen tomorrow. She doesn't know. She has to assume the White Walkers are coming soon. GRRM is reportedly really satisfied with how their treating his material in this show. To show the White Walkers at this point in Westeros history is to go against Martin's lore and I don't think he would look too kindly on that. I don't see it happening. To show them in this story would be a terrible retcon too. Truly awful. Also HBO did have a White Walker show focused on the Long Night with Bloodmoon (it starred Naomi Watts) but it was canceled after the pilot was shot because HBO was unsatisfied with its quality.
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Post by shinnickneth on Aug 23, 2022 5:23:57 GMT
The Anarchy is the name of the civil war in England and Normandy that started in 1135 and ended in 1154. Which is what i wonder if George R.R Martin used as his inspiration for the Targaryen civil war. I should laugh your lack of knowledge about history, but i am not going to do that. It very well could be. GRRM's does like to find inspiration from historical events (like the Red Wedding was taken from a real world slaughter in which people were slaughtered under the guise of peace.
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