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Post by shinnickneth on Oct 27, 2022 0:54:55 GMT
Her account was banned. She wrote the following to me on tumblr: "its a long story but the cry babies and dictators of the board banned me last year , because they don't like anyone posting the truth about anything , and is the real reason why I'm not around , i noticed some of my friends asking about me , if you dont mind letting them know the reason why , i appreciate it , thank you " Her tumblr account is jonsaeverafter. I only just saw her message because I do not use my account there but it appears to have been sent on 31 August, right after what I am now replying to. That's a shame. It would have been nice to be able to talk about House of the Dragon with her. I'm not on Tumblr but that's great you're in contact with her still.
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Post by shinnickneth on Oct 27, 2022 1:18:46 GMT
The finale may have turned me off from the series. I don't understand why they decided to frame Rhaenyra as some kind of plucky underdog all of the sudden. This episode was 100% pro-Rhaenyra. She's Cersei Lannister 2.0 Are we supposed to forget the previous episodes never happened? She fucked around with her uncle in a brothel (and lied about it), seduced a Kingsguard into breaking his oath and then tossed him aside for not understanding her fling was less interesting to her than his life-altering decision to essentially obey her command to get busy. Hell, she almost started a civil war by herself at her own wedding; if it were up to her, Damon would've whisked her off to Dragonstone and married her right there, something that almost certainly would've led to violence between her own house and House Velaryon. Her murdering husband arranged for her to weasel out of her marriage so she could run off with him anyway. And let's not bury the lead. She committed treason by having bastards and trying to pass them off as legitimate heirs to the throne! And let me be clear, I'm no Green. Otto is a scheming shit, Aegon is a potential Joffrey, Ser Criston is the ultimate psycho-ex, and Larys is Littlefinger with a foot fetish. Alicent is more sympathetic than Rhaenyra, but is still complicit in her family's schemes, so not an angel herself. Aemond is a prick, but arguably my favorite character at this point. He was teased and bullied by the other children about not having a dragon, so he went and got one. His reward was having to fight four kids at once and losing an eye. I think he would've just let it go had they not inexplicably teased him about it at that last family dinner. This just makes it all the more baffling why he seemed to regret killing Lucerys. You were terrorizing him a few thousand feet up, what did you think was going to happen? Anyway, I thought the show had done a good job of portraying both sides as not particularly honorable or worth rooting for, which I thought had become the point. Then they pull this nonsense and suddenly Rhaenyra is the victim, fighting for justice? And it's only going to get worse, because I'm sure HBO wants to make it up to fans who were upset by Dany's villain turn at the end of GOT (even though it was telegraphed from the beginning). I don't know how many changes they'll make from the book, but at this rate she's going to be a bigger hero than Jon Snow. What a terrible season finale for a show that I felt was improving as it went along. It did seem to be more pro Rhaenyra in this episode. We'll see how things progress. I imagine it must be difficult as the center of the show up to this point, Varys, is out of the picture now and it's probably hard for the writers to find where to focus the show. Hopefully they can pull it off and keep things neutral. I will say that I don't think she's "fighting for justice" at all. I hope that's not what they're trying to set-up the story as. Her son purposefully blinded another boy, weaseled out of losing his own, and ultimately perished by dragon. It's just the reality of messing around with such powerful beasts - they can turn on you at any moment. Hungry? Tired? Annoyed for a moment? That could be it for anyone in the presence of a dragon when it's having a bad day. Not Aemon's fault.
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Post by shinnickneth on Oct 27, 2022 1:21:44 GMT
The finale may have turned me off from the series. I don't understand why they decided to frame Rhaenyra as some kind of plucky underdog all of the sudden. This episode was 100% pro-Rhaenyra. She's Cersei Lannister 2.0 Are we supposed to forget the previous episodes never happened? She fucked around with her uncle in a brothel (and lied about it), seduced a Kingsguard into breaking his oath and then tossed him aside for not understanding her fling was less interesting to her than his life-altering decision to essentially obey her command to get busy. Hell, she almost started a civil war by herself at her own wedding; if it were up to her, Damon would've whisked her off to Dragonstone and married her right there, something that almost certainly would've led to violence between her own house and House Velaryon. Her murdering husband arranged for her to weasel out of her marriage so she could run off with him anyway. And let's not bury the lead. She committed treason by having bastards and trying to pass them off as legitimate heirs to the throne! Everything you said about Rhaenyra is true and the show didn't exactly hide it which is why I don't understand your point. None of the main characters are perfect and they are all extremely flawed. Rhaenyra included. This episode is mainly about her the blacks just like the previous one was mainly about Alicent and the greens. I haven't read the book that this series is based off but my understanding is that the book is written from a Maester perspective and it's very pro Rhaenyra. The show is going out of their way not to show the Greens, particulary Alicent as a complete monsters. Aemond deliberatly kills Lucerys in the book, in here it happens almost accidently. Also I don't think justice will Rhaenyra's motivation going forward. But revenge. Good point. Episode 9 is titled "The Green Council", while episode 10 is "The Black Queen".
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Post by shinnickneth on Oct 27, 2022 1:40:11 GMT
I liked it that compared to the original story, Aemond did not kill his nephew intentionally. He was such a Strong boy too...
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Post by shadyvsesham on Nov 14, 2022 17:17:53 GMT
No
Game of thrones is dead.
George write the fn books...
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Feb 4, 2023 21:27:41 GMT
Her account was banned. She wrote the following to me on tumblr: "its a long story but the cry babies and dictators of the board banned me last year , because they don't like anyone posting the truth about anything , and is the real reason why I'm not around , i noticed some of my friends asking about me , if you dont mind letting them know the reason why , i appreciate it , thank you " Her tumblr account is jonsaeverafter. I only just saw her message because I do not use my account there but it appears to have been sent on 31 August, right after what I am now replying to. That's a shame. It would have been nice to be able to talk about House of the Dragon with her. I'm not on Tumblr but that's great you're in contact with her still. JONSA Lives now more than ever with the jon snow series in the works LOL i cant wait . Hi shinnickneth Leo of Red Keep , seems they have unbanned me - i was able to log in . Thank you leo for updating my friends. The board is very quiet , i wonder if fans not into much HOD? or they have moved on . I liked the show i mean visually is very beautiful and i think they have done an amazing job I didnt like they changed actresses halfway through . I did find the show bit woke with all the talk with a woman would not be queen and all that , its so boring , i think king viserys for a targrayen was kind but made bad decisions . He should have never named his daughter as queen to be since he was going to remarry . I felt really bad for rhaenyras sons epsecially the younger one who was send to talk to the baratheons , very sad scene .
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Feb 5, 2023 16:15:50 GMT
I liked the show i mean visually is very beautiful and i think they have done an amazing job I didnt like they changed actresses halfway through . I did find the show bit woke with all the talk with a woman would not be queen and all that , its so boring … It soured the whole thing for me. From the first episode on you can see all the unsubtle "messaging" to their young, dumb, "progressive" audience and the pandering to identity politics of all smells. I no longer waste time checking out anything on HBO, Netflix or the likes.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Feb 6, 2023 3:01:22 GMT
I liked the show i mean visually is very beautiful and i think they have done an amazing job I didnt like they changed actresses halfway through . I did find the show bit woke with all the talk with a woman would not be queen and all that , its so boring … It soured the whole thing for me. From the first episode on you can see all the unsubtle "messaging" to their young, dumb, "progressive" audience and the pandering to identity politics of all smells. I no longer waste time checking out anything on HBO, Netflix or the likes. exactly can they leave a story alone? they need to bring politics in everything . House of dragon was a good story they didnt need to alter the story or writting what was funny while show was airing i was reading at reddit and it seems every activist organization had a demand or issue
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Post by Sarge on Mar 4, 2023 5:43:33 GMT
I finally finished the first episode after 3 tries over as many days and it's like watching paint dry. It's a cheap imitation. I like the plucky cute girl but I'm supposed to. Hopefully it gets better.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 5, 2023 6:11:06 GMT
It soured the whole thing for me. From the first episode on you can see all the unsubtle "messaging" to their young, dumb, "progressive" audience and the pandering to identity politics of all smells. I no longer waste time checking out anything on HBO, Netflix or the likes. exactly can they leave a story alone? they need to bring politics in everything I can't believe they brought politics into a show about pol...oh wait.
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Post by Sarge on Mar 9, 2023 23:47:54 GMT
Finished the season, meh.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Mar 10, 2023 17:56:13 GMT
exactly can they leave a story alone? they need to bring politics in everything I can't believe they brought politics into a show about pol...oh wait. medieval fantasy politics not the same as real life 2023 politics . fantasy writers take inspiration from history , thats about it .
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Mar 10, 2023 17:58:28 GMT
Finished the season, meh. heard second season will be better as the story heats up, literally, and they are adding more actors/characters. but one show I'm really waiting for is jon snow coming back.
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Post by shinnickneth on Apr 18, 2023 23:15:41 GMT
That's a shame. It would have been nice to be able to talk about House of the Dragon with her. I'm not on Tumblr but that's great you're in contact with her still. JONSA Lives now more than ever with the jon snow series in the works LOL i cant wait . Hi shinnickneth Leo of Red Keep , seems they have unbanned me - i was able to log in . Thank you leo for updating my friends. The board is very quiet , i wonder if fans not into much HOD? or they have moved on . I liked the show i mean visually is very beautiful and i think they have done an amazing job I didnt like they changed actresses halfway through . I did find the show bit woke with all the talk with a woman would not be queen and all that , its so boring , i think king viserys for a targrayen was kind but made bad decisions . He should have never named his daughter as queen to be since he was going to remarry .I felt really bad for rhaenyras sons epsecially the younger one who was send to talk to the baratheons , very sad scene . In hindsight, yes, you're right. He didn't know he would have any more heirs. It's not unusual for kings in history to name someone else an heir until another comes along.
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Post by shinnickneth on Apr 18, 2023 23:20:02 GMT
exactly can they leave a story alone? they need to bring politics in everything . House of dragon was a good story they didnt need to alter the story or writting what was funny while show was airing i was reading at reddit and it seems every activist organization had a demand or issue Everyone has an axe to grind nowadays...
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 19, 2023 6:20:54 GMT
exactly can they leave a story alone? they need to bring politics in everything . House of dragon was a good story they didnt need to alter the story or writting what was funny while show was airing i was reading at reddit and it seems every activist organization had a demand or issue Everyone has an axe to grind nowadays... Everyone wants things for nothing and every insecure fuck wants to be reassured that the world will keep mirrors away from their dumb face. So political crooks can make an easy career by pretending to fight for the right of insecure fucks not to be seen as such.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 19, 2023 6:31:54 GMT
i think king viserys for a targrayen was kind but made bad decisions . He should have never named his daughter as queen to be since he was going to remarry .I felt really bad for rhaenyras sons epsecially the younger one who was send to talk to the baratheons , very sad scene . In hindsight, yes, you're right. He didn't know he would have any more heirs. It's not unusual for kings in history to name someone else an heir until another comes along. He didn't do that, though. He named a heir forever no matter what came along, then spent no effort securing that decision. But the story uses the same basic tricks as GoT to make stupid audiences scream at injustice: it presents them with a childish ideal and snatches it away. GRRM writes for a barely educated audience and it shows.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Apr 25, 2023 23:46:30 GMT
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Post by Eλευθερί on Jul 24, 2023 6:41:45 GMT
Well people that read the books... Or anyone with a brain who saw their scene in the throne room in the first episode. There's the spoilery scene: I would never have remembered that random incident.
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Post by Eλευθερί on Jul 24, 2023 6:46:37 GMT
Honestly, what is up with you people? The way you need your hands held anytime a character does anything in this show make you seem like robots who don't understand basic human behavior. "Why does the king second guess tough decisions?" "Why is the teenage girl upset about losing her birthright?" "Why did the sexually unfulfilled girl go fuck another guy while she was still horny?" Now you're shocked that Rhae hooked up with her uncle, something everyone and their mom saw coming? It's fucking crazy.
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