|
Post by Winter_King on Oct 18, 2022 9:48:50 GMT
This is was the first time I felt it. I don't mind action, it just has to make sense. Ep. 1 showed men recklessly murdering each other for no reason at a tourney. In Spartacus, you see foreign captives made to fight each other for the entertainment of the crowd and they do because it's their only chance to survive (historical evidence shows that gladiators had better chances of survival than soldiers, which makes sense; trained fighters were a cost that needed a return). Here, it's only there so some feminist cunt could be made to say that men are that way. It then went on to show how men would knowingly sacrifice a mother to save a potentially male child. In the middle ages, priorities were clearly the other way around. Saving the mother would have taken precedence without anyone even asking the father about it. More shocking stuff and feminist crap. Ep. 2 showed how the king is pressured into re-marrying without anyone ever providing a good reason for it. The Velaryons are already part of the family and holding dragons in addition to the fleet. It could make sense if they were pushing for their son to marry the heir and even more if Viserys were pushing for this to keep all dragons closer to the throne but the show wants to further the idea of "tradition" making people do bad things: "It was expected of me"… More nonsense from the "progressive" party (as if we'd ever get anything else from them). Ep. 3 showed a completely insane and implausible solo action by Daemon against the Crabfeeder's men only for the sake of "badass action". Before that, the heir was shown not learning the job and not wanting to fulfill any part of it but still wanting it because… she would feel bad otherwise, I guess. The show hasn't been making much sense from the start. I grant you episode 3. Episode 1 was a tourney and I can accept that the tourney was to the death or at least until the person being disabled. It's a tourney based on medieval melee but it's not our world. It's a fantasy world. The writers went with that Westerosi society accepts fights to death for entertainment. It actually makes more sense than Spartacus because Spartacus is actually based on real history. Honestly, it bothers me more than they train with real weapons instead of practice ones 2. was actually well explained why the king was pressured to re-marry and even he concedes later to his daughter that she needs to marry for the same reason. More sons, less chances of family being destroyed. If Rhaenyra was killed, and the King was unmarried, the laws of succession dictated that the throne would go to his brother which at the time in the story, they weren't getting along well. So there was an explanation and a good one. The last episode had a dragon bursting to a stone floor without harming the rider and go through a door that was clearly too small without damaging it. That's what I mean by illogical. Rhaenys also killed a bunch of people that had nothing to do with the crisis unfolding and it felt it was done for nothing other than we need something big happening at the end of the episode. Like if the coronation had been in some other place out in the open and Rhaenys did a fly by while escaping it would've achieved the same purpose without sacrificing logic for it.
|
|
|
Post by Winter_King on Oct 18, 2022 19:09:01 GMT
Another mistake I noticed, Aemond says he's next in the succession line but since Aegon already has kids, his kids would come first.
|
|
shinnickneth
Junior Member
@shinnickneth
Posts: 2,514
Likes: 1,781
|
Post by shinnickneth on Oct 18, 2022 19:22:50 GMT
Another mistake I noticed, Aemond says he's next in the succession line but since Aegon already has kids, his kids would come first. Bastards can't inherit the throne unless legitimized by a king.
|
|
|
Post by Winter_King on Oct 18, 2022 19:30:52 GMT
Another mistake I noticed, Aemond says he's next in the succession line but since Aegon already has kids, his kids would come first. Bastards can't inherit the throne unless legitimized by a king. He has legitimate sons with his wife Helaena.
|
|
shinnickneth
Junior Member
@shinnickneth
Posts: 2,514
Likes: 1,781
|
Post by shinnickneth on Oct 18, 2022 19:55:55 GMT
He has legitimate sons with his wife Helaena. You're right. He has two with her. I forgot about them.
|
|
shinnickneth
Junior Member
@shinnickneth
Posts: 2,514
Likes: 1,781
|
Post by shinnickneth on Oct 18, 2022 20:58:12 GMT
It's strange we haven't seen Corlys for two episodes now. After his brother was killed by Daemon (from behind of all things which is considered disgraceful/cowardly/dishonorable in Westeros), I expected to see him.
|
|
|
Post by Leo of Red Keep on Oct 21, 2022 9:16:16 GMT
Just logging in to see who was still here. It’s awesome to see all you guys. I hope you’re well Sad to see no Jonsa Hey! Nice to see you too. Yeah, I haven't seen Jonsa for awhile. We'll probably see her soon enough. If not, she'll definitely come back once Snow (the Jon Snow spin-off/sequel show) starts. She really liked the Jon/Sansa dynamic. Her account was banned. She wrote the following to me on tumblr: "its a long story but the cry babies and dictators of the board banned me last year , because they don't like anyone posting the truth about anything , and is the real reason why I'm not around , i noticed some of my friends asking about me , if you dont mind letting them know the reason why , i appreciate it , thank you " Her tumblr account is jonsaeverafter. I only just saw her message because I do not use my account there but it appears to have been sent on 31 August, right after what I am now replying to.
|
|
|
Post by onethreetwo on Oct 24, 2022 3:45:20 GMT
It's fitting that the finale is another reminder of the rush job this season has been. There is no build to any moments in this series. We're just there. Always just magically there.
The thing that bothered me the most was Daemon's character inconsistency. They threw in a brief moment in the last episode to remind us he's the bad man from episode one. Well it's too fucking late. You spent the last 9 episodes making him a lovable antihero heartthrob. Making him a wife beater just feels weird now.
6/10 finale and a 7/10 season. In the end I just barely enjoyed this more than Rings of Power.
|
|
|
Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 24, 2022 12:15:30 GMT
It's fitting that the finale is another reminder of the rush job this season has been. There is no build to any moments in this series. We're just there. Always just magically there. The thing that bothered me the most was Daemon's character inconsistency. They threw in a brief moment in the last episode to remind us he's the bad man from episode one. Well it's too fucking late. You spent the last 9 episodes making him a lovable antihero heartthrob. Making him a wife beater just feels weird now. 6/10 finale and a 7/10 season. In the end I just barely enjoyed this more than Rings of Power. The finale may have turned me off from the series. I don't understand why they decided to frame Rhaenyra as some kind of plucky underdog all of the sudden. This episode was 100% pro-Rhaenyra. She's Cersei Lannister 2.0 Are we supposed to forget the previous episodes never happened? She fucked around with her uncle in a brothel (and lied about it), seduced a Kingsguard into breaking his oath and then tossed him aside for not understanding her fling was less interesting to her than his life-altering decision to essentially obey her command to get busy. Hell, she almost started a civil war by herself at her own wedding; if it were up to her, Damon would've whisked her off to Dragonstone and married her right there, something that almost certainly would've led to violence between her own house and House Velaryon. Her murdering husband arranged for her to weasel out of her marriage so she could run off with him anyway. And let's not bury the lead. She committed treason by having bastards and trying to pass them off as legitimate heirs to the throne! And let me be clear, I'm no Green. Otto is a scheming shit, Aegon is a potential Joffrey, Ser Criston is the ultimate psycho-ex, and Larys is Littlefinger with a foot fetish. Alicent is more sympathetic than Rhaenyra, but is still complicit in her family's schemes, so not an angel herself. Aemond is a prick, but arguably my favorite character at this point. He was teased and bullied by the other children about not having a dragon, so he went and got one. His reward was having to fight four kids at once and losing an eye. I think he would've just let it go had they not inexplicably teased him about it at that last family dinner. This just makes it all the more baffling why he seemed to regret killing Lucerys. You were terrorizing him a few thousand feet up, what did you think was going to happen? Anyway, I thought the show had done a good job of portraying both sides as not particularly honorable or worth rooting for, which I thought had become the point. Then they pull this nonsense and suddenly Rhaenyra is the victim, fighting for justice? And it's only going to get worse, because I'm sure HBO wants to make it up to fans who were upset by Dany's villain turn at the end of GOT (even though it was telegraphed from the beginning). I don't know how many changes they'll make from the book, but at this rate she's going to be a bigger hero than Jon Snow. What a terrible season finale for a show that I felt was improving as it went along.
|
|
|
Post by Leo of Red Keep on Oct 24, 2022 13:56:51 GMT
Then they pull this nonsense and suddenly Rhaenyra is the victim, fighting for justice? And it's only going to get worse, because I'm sure HBO wants to make it up to fans who were upset by Dany's villain turn at the end of GOT (even though it was telegraphed from the beginning). That's the whole point of the show. Make it up to danidiots by having Rhaenyra fail as the victim of injustice and "men's world".
|
|
|
Post by Winter_King on Oct 24, 2022 21:25:36 GMT
It's fitting that the finale is another reminder of the rush job this season has been. There is no build to any moments in this series. We're just there. Always just magically there. The thing that bothered me the most was Daemon's character inconsistency. They threw in a brief moment in the last episode to remind us he's the bad man from episode one. Well it's too fucking late. You spent the last 9 episodes making him a lovable antihero heartthrob. Making him a wife beater just feels weird now. 6/10 finale and a 7/10 season. In the end I just barely enjoyed this more than Rings of Power. The finale may have turned me off from the series. I don't understand why they decided to frame Rhaenyra as some kind of plucky underdog all of the sudden. This episode was 100% pro-Rhaenyra. She's Cersei Lannister 2.0 Are we supposed to forget the previous episodes never happened? She fucked around with her uncle in a brothel (and lied about it), seduced a Kingsguard into breaking his oath and then tossed him aside for not understanding her fling was less interesting to her than his life-altering decision to essentially obey her command to get busy. Hell, she almost started a civil war by herself at her own wedding; if it were up to her, Damon would've whisked her off to Dragonstone and married her right there, something that almost certainly would've led to violence between her own house and House Velaryon. Her murdering husband arranged for her to weasel out of her marriage so she could run off with him anyway. And let's not bury the lead. She committed treason by having bastards and trying to pass them off as legitimate heirs to the throne! Everything you said about Rhaenyra is true and the show didn't exactly hide it which is why I don't understand your point. None of the main characters are perfect and they are all extremely flawed. Rhaenyra included. This episode is mainly about her the blacks just like the previous one was mainly about Alicent and the greens. I haven't read the book that this series is based off but my understanding is that the book is written from a Maester perspective and it's very pro Rhaenyra. The show is going out of their way not to show the Greens, particulary Alicent as a complete monsters. Aemond deliberatly kills Lucerys in the book, in here it happens almost accidently. Also I don't think justice will Rhaenyra's motivation going forward. But revenge.
|
|
|
Post by stickman38 on Oct 24, 2022 21:59:04 GMT
It's fitting that the finale is another reminder of the rush job this season has been. There is no build to any moments in this series. We're just there. Always just magically there. The thing that bothered me the most was Daemon's character inconsistency. They threw in a brief moment in the last episode to remind us he's the bad man from episode one. Well it's too fucking late. You spent the last 9 episodes making him a lovable antihero heartthrob. Making him a wife beater just feels weird now. 6/10 finale and a 7/10 season. In the end I just barely enjoyed this more than Rings of Power. The finale may have turned me off from the series. I don't understand why they decided to frame Rhaenyra as some kind of plucky underdog all of the sudden. This episode was 100% pro-Rhaenyra. She's Cersei Lannister 2.0 Are we supposed to forget the previous episodes never happened? She fucked around with her uncle in a brothel (and lied about it), seduced a Kingsguard into breaking his oath and then tossed him aside for not understanding her fling was less interesting to her than his life-altering decision to essentially obey her command to get busy. Hell, she almost started a civil war by herself at her own wedding; if it were up to her, Damon would've whisked her off to Dragonstone and married her right there, something that almost certainly would've led to violence between her own house and House Velaryon. Her murdering husband arranged for her to weasel out of her marriage so she could run off with him anyway. And let's not bury the lead. She committed treason by having bastards and trying to pass them off as legitimate heirs to the throne! And let me be clear, I'm no Green. Otto is a scheming shit, Aegon is a potential Joffrey, Ser Criston is the ultimate psycho-ex, and Larys is Littlefinger with a foot fetish. Alicent is more sympathetic than Rhaenyra, but is still complicit in her family's schemes, so not an angel herself. Aemond is a prick, but arguably my favorite character at this point. He was teased and bullied by the other children about not having a dragon, so he went and got one. His reward was having to fight four kids at once and losing an eye. I think he would've just let it go had they not inexplicably teased him about it at that last family dinner. This just makes it all the more baffling why he seemed to regret killing Lucerys. You were terrorizing him a few thousand feet up, what did you think was going to happen? Anyway, I thought the show had done a good job of portraying both sides as not particularly honorable or worth rooting for, which I thought had become the point. Then they pull this nonsense and suddenly Rhaenyra is the victim, fighting for justice? And it's only going to get worse, because I'm sure HBO wants to make it up to fans who were upset by Dany's villain turn at the end of GOT (even though it was telegraphed from the beginning). I don't know how many changes they'll make from the book, but at this rate she's going to be a bigger hero than Jon Snow. What a terrible season finale for a show that I felt was improving as it went along.
That's thing about Martin's stories, none of the characters are upstanding pillars of virtue. They all have flaws, some more serious than others. And yes, even the Starks have flaws. But its become quite common for shows today to have characters like this. One of my favorites is Breaking Bad and it's spin-off Better Call Saul. Have you watched Breaking Bad? It's another example of morally grey characters but they're still quite likable. It's a fantastic show... Better Call Saul is not quite as good but still very entertaining.
GoT had a bunch of characters like this too. Even Cersei was likable in my opinion. Sure, she was extremely flawed but she had a commanding presence that made her character stand out. That was the great thing about GoT , even the bad guys were great characters.
I suppose the way Martin writes stories, it challenges the viewer/reader to ask themselves what would they find morally excusable in order to have a "hero" to pull for.
I think the biggest problem with HotD so far is that none of the characters are that likeable, they're just garbage people. haha...
I agree that Aemond is the most interesting so far and maybe, just maybe, likeable to some degree but the rest are just ho-hum..meh.
Rhaenrya is probably my second favorite. But I don't think I am ready to pull for anyone. I was almost ready to give up in this show but I did like the final 2 or 3 episodes of season one. So, I will keep watching.
|
|
|
Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 24, 2022 22:18:42 GMT
The finale may have turned me off from the series. I don't understand why they decided to frame Rhaenyra as some kind of plucky underdog all of the sudden. This episode was 100% pro-Rhaenyra. She's Cersei Lannister 2.0 Are we supposed to forget the previous episodes never happened? She fucked around with her uncle in a brothel (and lied about it), seduced a Kingsguard into breaking his oath and then tossed him aside for not understanding her fling was less interesting to her than his life-altering decision to essentially obey her command to get busy. Hell, she almost started a civil war by herself at her own wedding; if it were up to her, Damon would've whisked her off to Dragonstone and married her right there, something that almost certainly would've led to violence between her own house and House Velaryon. Her murdering husband arranged for her to weasel out of her marriage so she could run off with him anyway. And let's not bury the lead. She committed treason by having bastards and trying to pass them off as legitimate heirs to the throne! Everything you said about Rhaenyra is true and the show didn't exactly hide it which is why I don't understand your point. None of the main characters are perfect and they are all extremely flawed. Rhaenyra included. This episode is mainly about her the blacks just like the previous one was mainly about Alicent and the greens. I haven't read the book that this series is based off but my understanding is that the book is written from a Maester perspective and it's very pro Rhaenyra. The show is going out of their way not to show the Greens, particulary Alicent as a complete monsters. Aemond deliberatly kills Lucerys in the book, in here it happens almost accidently. Also I don't think justice will Rhaenyra's motivation going forward. But revenge. The framing of the episode felt extremely pro-Rhaenyra, which isn't how the rest of the season felt, that's why I found it so jarring. None of the main characters are perfect, which as I said I felt that was the theme so far. But this episode tried very hard to victimize Rhaenyra and give the audience someone to root for. Here's a ten minute childbirth scene to show her sacrifice. Here's a slow motion reaction shot of her getting the news of her son. I never felt they gave the same amount of struggle on screen to anyone else. The book is from several perspectives, it's up to the reader to draw their own conclusions. And yeah changing it from a murder to an accident makes no sense, and makes Aemond look like a dunce.
|
|
|
Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 24, 2022 22:27:07 GMT
The finale may have turned me off from the series. I don't understand why they decided to frame Rhaenyra as some kind of plucky underdog all of the sudden. This episode was 100% pro-Rhaenyra. She's Cersei Lannister 2.0 Are we supposed to forget the previous episodes never happened? She fucked around with her uncle in a brothel (and lied about it), seduced a Kingsguard into breaking his oath and then tossed him aside for not understanding her fling was less interesting to her than his life-altering decision to essentially obey her command to get busy. Hell, she almost started a civil war by herself at her own wedding; if it were up to her, Damon would've whisked her off to Dragonstone and married her right there, something that almost certainly would've led to violence between her own house and House Velaryon. Her murdering husband arranged for her to weasel out of her marriage so she could run off with him anyway. And let's not bury the lead. She committed treason by having bastards and trying to pass them off as legitimate heirs to the throne! And let me be clear, I'm no Green. Otto is a scheming shit, Aegon is a potential Joffrey, Ser Criston is the ultimate psycho-ex, and Larys is Littlefinger with a foot fetish. Alicent is more sympathetic than Rhaenyra, but is still complicit in her family's schemes, so not an angel herself. Aemond is a prick, but arguably my favorite character at this point. He was teased and bullied by the other children about not having a dragon, so he went and got one. His reward was having to fight four kids at once and losing an eye. I think he would've just let it go had they not inexplicably teased him about it at that last family dinner. This just makes it all the more baffling why he seemed to regret killing Lucerys. You were terrorizing him a few thousand feet up, what did you think was going to happen? Anyway, I thought the show had done a good job of portraying both sides as not particularly honorable or worth rooting for, which I thought had become the point. Then they pull this nonsense and suddenly Rhaenyra is the victim, fighting for justice? And it's only going to get worse, because I'm sure HBO wants to make it up to fans who were upset by Dany's villain turn at the end of GOT (even though it was telegraphed from the beginning). I don't know how many changes they'll make from the book, but at this rate she's going to be a bigger hero than Jon Snow. What a terrible season finale for a show that I felt was improving as it went along.
That's thing about Martin's stories, none of the characters are upstanding pillars of virtue. They all have flaws, some more serious than others. And yes, even the Starks have flaws. But its become quite common for shows today to have characters like this. One of my favorites is Breaking Bad and it's spin-off Better Call Saul. Have you watched Breaking Bad? It's another example of morally grey characters but they're still quite likable. It's a fantastic show... Better Call Saul is not quite as good but still very entertaining.
GoT had a bunch of characters like this too. Even Cersei was likable in my opinion. Sure, she was extremely flawed but she had a commanding presence that made her character stand out. That was the great thing about GoT , even the bad guys were great characters.
I suppose the way Martin writes stories, it challenges the viewer/reader to ask themselves what would they find morally excusable in order to have a "hero" to pull for.
I think the biggest problem with HotD so far is that none of the characters are that likeable, they're just garbage people. haha...
I agree that Aemond is the most interesting so far and maybe, just maybe, likeable to some degree but the rest are just ho-hum..meh.
Rhaenrya is probably my second favorite. But I don't think I am ready to pull for anyone. I was almost ready to give up in this show but I did like the final 2 or 3 episodes of season one. So, I will keep watching.
Completely agree, but I felt like the show knew that before this final episode. Suddenly it became, 'look at the struggles of poor Rhaenyra, how dare they put her through this!' Karma is a bitch. One of the great things about the ASOIAF books is the nuance that is often lost on screen. The Starks were easily my favorite, but yes they were also imperfect. People focus on Ned's wrongful death, but often forget he executed a man unjustly at the beginning of the story. Still, the Starks weren't schemers. They didn't plot against everyone around them constantly the way the other characters did. There were significant differences between them and the Lannisters. (IMO Cersei was a much better character on the show than in the books, but I still couldn't stand her.)
|
|
|
Post by stickman38 on Oct 25, 2022 1:03:04 GMT
I think the biggest problem with HotD so far is that none of the characters are that likeable, they're just garbage people. haha...
Completely agree, but I felt like the show knew that before this final episode. Suddenly it became, 'look at the struggles of poor Rhaenyra, how dare they put her through this!' Karma is a bitch. One of the great things about the ASOIAF books is the nuance that is often lost on screen. The Starks were easily my favorite, but yes they were also imperfect. People focus on Ned's wrongful death, but often forget he executed a man unjustly at the beginning of the story. Still, the Starks weren't schemers. They didn't plot against everyone around them constantly the way the other characters did. There were significant differences between them and the Lannisters. (IMO Cersei was a much better character on the show than in the books, but I still couldn't stand her.)
The fact that she was hateable made Cersei a good characters in my view. Same with Joffrey. He was so unlikable that you wanted to punch him. haha... I just don't get this feeling with any of the HotD characters, at least not yet, maybe in season 2 these characters will flesh out a little more.
The Lannisters were highly questionable people but Tywin is still one of the best characters on the show. And my favorite character on the show is Tyrion followed closely by Ned and Daenerys then Tywin. In fact, wasn't Tyrion the first little person to not have a long beard in a fantasy film/show? LOL! He eventually grew a short one which I didn't like but he was a totally different take on portraying a dwarf in a fantasy world. it was a refreshing change from what we've seen in the past.
But the show had a long list of great characters. It wasn't hard to find several that you liked, HotD is not quite living up to expectations of the original show in this regards. Of course, how can it? This was probably never going to be as good as GoT.
I have not read the books yet but I think I will eventually, or at the very least, I will probably listen to an audio version of it.
And have you seen Breaking Bad? I would highly recommended it for people that liked GoT.
|
|
|
Post by Leo of Red Keep on Oct 25, 2022 9:54:18 GMT
In fact, wasn't Tyrion the first little person to not have a long beard in a fantasy film/show? He eventually grew a short one which I didn't like but he was a totally different take on portraying a dwarf in a fantasy world. it was a refreshing change from what we've seen in the past.
HotD is not quite living up to expectations of the original show in this regards. Of course, how can it? This was probably never going to be as good as GoT. Tyrion got his beard from being stuck in a crate. Willow never had a beard (1988): For a short moment, I felt characters in HotD were better than in GoT, less clear cut. People ramble on about "grey characters" and they don't seem to realise they're all light or dark grey to the point it makes no difference. So the heroes are not perfect, they have an affair or say a mean thing or two, then the villains are not only terrible, they smile at a couple of people and have one or two excuses to murder and maim. But it's very clear the show is painting Rhaenyra and most of the women as either well meaning or pressured victims when most of the men are essentially brutes or ambitious grabbers. And of course, the show is also "pro-black" because it's the right thing to do what the old king wanted, and if that's not enough, they invented that stupid "vision of ice and fire" to make sure morons know which side is the one that wants to save humanity (but never tells anyone, so we get a story).
|
|
|
Post by Winter_King on Oct 25, 2022 10:30:43 GMT
Everything you said about Rhaenyra is true and the show didn't exactly hide it which is why I don't understand your point. None of the main characters are perfect and they are all extremely flawed. Rhaenyra included. This episode is mainly about her the blacks just like the previous one was mainly about Alicent and the greens. I haven't read the book that this series is based off but my understanding is that the book is written from a Maester perspective and it's very pro Rhaenyra. The show is going out of their way not to show the Greens, particulary Alicent as a complete monsters. Aemond deliberatly kills Lucerys in the book, in here it happens almost accidently. Also I don't think justice will Rhaenyra's motivation going forward. But revenge. The framing of the episode felt extremely pro-Rhaenyra, which isn't how the rest of the season felt, that's why I found it so jarring. None of the main characters are perfect, which as I said I felt that was the theme so far. But this episode tried very hard to victimize Rhaenyra and give the audience someone to root for. Here's a ten minute childbirth scene to show her sacrifice. Here's a slow motion reaction shot of her getting the news of her son. I never felt they gave the same amount of struggle on screen to anyone else. The book is from several perspectives, it's up to the reader to draw their own conclusions. And yeah changing it from a murder to an accident makes no sense, and makes Aemond look like a dunce. It does fit with what Viserys said in the beginning of the season: "the idea that we control the dragons is an illusion". Daenerys also lost control of the dragons in the show and in the books so it's not unheard off. The baby scene does happen in the book if I'm not mistaken.
|
|
|
Post by Pangolin on Oct 25, 2022 10:37:00 GMT
I liked it that compared to the original story, Aemond did not kill his nephew intentionally.
|
|
|
Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 25, 2022 11:51:09 GMT
The framing of the episode felt extremely pro-Rhaenyra, which isn't how the rest of the season felt, that's why I found it so jarring. None of the main characters are perfect, which as I said I felt that was the theme so far. But this episode tried very hard to victimize Rhaenyra and give the audience someone to root for. Here's a ten minute childbirth scene to show her sacrifice. Here's a slow motion reaction shot of her getting the news of her son. I never felt they gave the same amount of struggle on screen to anyone else. The book is from several perspectives, it's up to the reader to draw their own conclusions. And yeah changing it from a murder to an accident makes no sense, and makes Aemond look like a dunce. It does fit with what Viserys said in the beginning of the season: "the idea that we control the dragons is an illusion". Daenerys also lost control of the dragons in the show and in the books so it's not unheard off. The baby scene does happen in the book if I'm not mistaken. True as that may be, I don't like it as a creative decision. The emotional stakes are raised if Aemond decides to settle the score permanently; turning it into an accident weakens his character and makes him look foolish.
|
|
shinnickneth
Junior Member
@shinnickneth
Posts: 2,514
Likes: 1,781
|
Post by shinnickneth on Oct 27, 2022 0:44:27 GMT
It's fitting that the finale is another reminder of the rush job this season has been. There is no build to any moments in this series. We're just there. Always just magically there. The thing that bothered me the most was Daemon's character inconsistency. They threw in a brief moment in the last episode to remind us he's the bad man from episode one. Well it's too fucking late. You spent the last 9 episodes making him a lovable antihero heartthrob. Making him a wife beater just feels weird now. 6/10 finale and a 7/10 season. In the end I just barely enjoyed this more than Rings of Power. I agree. That was a weird moment. It didn't ring true to me and felt forced both in writing/acting. The character had no reason to do that. I thought it was a good episode but didn't feel like a season finale. Come to find out that the showrunners consider episodes 9 and 10 to be part 1 and part 2 of the same episode. Interesting way to look at it. I'll have to see if I agree whenever I rewatch it. Rings of Power is TERRIBLE! So boring. I made it to the third episode and shut it off. It's a wannabe show. I much rather pull out my books or rewatch the Lord of the Rings movies.
|
|