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Post by DSDSquared on Jun 5, 2017 12:32:03 GMT
It is kind of a mix of those movies. But it's also better than both of them. Wonder Woman actually has more similarities with the first 2 Superman movies than with Captain America: The First Avenger or Thor.
1. A robber shoots Lois with a gun and Clark stops the bullet with 1 hand. A German spy shoots Steve with a gun and Diana stops the bullet with her bracelet. 2. Clark's 1st public appearance as Superman (flying up and saving Lois and then catching the falling helicopter) is epic and is the most iconic scene in CBM history. Diana's 1st public appearance as Wonder Woman (climbing up out of the trench and charging the enemy and liberating the town from the enemy) is epic and will be 1 of the most iconic scenes in CBM history.
3. Lois and Clark have a brief romance. Diana and Steve have a brief romance. Nothing unrequited in both movies.
4. Superman battles 3 fellow Kryptonians who are just as powerful as he is and can't be defeated by ordinary humans. Wonder Woman battles a fellow God who is just as powerful as she is and can't be defeated by ordinary humans.
And I agree that Wonder Woman is better than both Captain America: The First Avenger and Thor. I understand that you are a blind troll. I understand how biased you are. So why do I argue? Anyway, if you cannot see the similarities in Wonder Woman with Thor and Captain America then you are just a complete moron, which I assume you are anyway. I honestly put this movie on the same level as those. I would actually probably do it like this:
Thor Wonder Woman Captain America
Although I gave them all very similar ratings.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 5, 2017 13:11:13 GMT
Another thing that struck me as a Marvel fan who has always appreciated DC as well, was how much this felt like a Marvel movie. The use of humor was near perfect in this film, it was such an improvement from the 'dark for the sake of being dark' approach from the rest of the DCEU to date. Ditto for the latest Justice League trailer. I wonder how the DC zealots who are constantly complaining about humor in the MCU feel about this tonal shift?
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 5, 2017 14:53:35 GMT
It is kind of a mix of those movies. But it's also better than both of them. I can't see anything better about it. In fact I'd argue it has a lot of inconsistencies that neither Thor nor Cap possess. And I don't plan on watching it again, whereas I know I'll watch the other two plenty more times.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 15:02:04 GMT
IMO its superior to the 1st Avenger and BOTH Thor films . Has more heart and the jokes worked much better.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 15:02:19 GMT
It is kind of a mix of those movies. But it's also better than both of them. I can't see anything better about it. In fact I'd argue it has a lot of inconsistencies that neither Thor nor Cap possess. And I don't plan on watching it again, whereas I know I'll watch the other two plenty more times. It's better.
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Post by sostie on Jun 5, 2017 15:02:48 GMT
So, in other words, DC had to copy Marvel in order to make a good movie. According to DC Fan they had to copy a coiuple of old Superman films!
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 5, 2017 15:03:30 GMT
I can't see anything better about it. In fact I'd argue it has a lot of inconsistencies that neither Thor nor Cap possess. And I don't plan on watching it again, whereas I know I'll watch the other two plenty more times. It's better. Nope
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 5, 2017 15:05:12 GMT
IMO its superior to the 1st Avenger and BOTH Thor films . Has more heart and the jokes worked much better. FA and Thor both have tons of heart with deeply personal stories, and fantastic levity. I really don't see anything superior about WW, but I'll give that it's pretty much on level. The ending isn't nearly as good as FA or Thor though and I don't think that it's even close.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 15:15:12 GMT
Critics and audiences say you're wrong.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 5, 2017 15:19:50 GMT
Critics and audiences say you're wrong. Oh critics are right now? I guess BVS and SS were shit after all then. It's weird how that matters sometimes and other times it doesn't. Also, how much of a boost do you think the "first good DC film", "female led comic" film give it? Surely you'd admit there's a bit of eagerness to call it good. Look how desperate it got for SS.
Anyway, I can't name anything particularly better about it though. Can you?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 15:22:09 GMT
It is kind of a mix of those movies. But it's also better than both of them. No DC film will ever be better than a Marvel. WB obviously paid for those good reviews.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 15:24:35 GMT
Critics and audiences say you're wrong. Because of course the critics and audiences' matter when it suits you.
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Post by northernlad on Jun 5, 2017 16:03:55 GMT
You guys really get off on this arguing about DC vs Marvel don't you? No you really do...it gets you all going.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 16:15:45 GMT
It is kind of a mix of those movies. But it's also better than both of them. No DC film will ever be better than a Marvel. WB obviously paid for those good reviews. Marveltard.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 16:16:05 GMT
Critics and audiences say you're wrong. Oh critics are right now? I guess BVS and SS were shit after all then. It's weird how that matters sometimes and other times it doesn't. Also, how much of a boost do you think the "first good DC film", "female led comic" film give it? Surely you'd admit there's a bit of eagerness to call it good. Look how desperate it got for SS.
Anyway, I can't name anything particularly better about it though. Can you?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 16:29:51 GMT
No DC film will ever be better than a Marvel. WB obviously paid for those good reviews. Marveltard. DC fanatic.
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Post by Larcen26 on Jun 5, 2017 16:42:48 GMT
It is kind of a mix of those movies. But it's also better than both of them. No DC film will ever be better than a Marvel. WB obviously paid for those good reviews. If you are being serious, I wildly disagree. If we had to rank all DC and Marvel films together, BvS would be the worst of them, but I would definitely put Wonder Woman on par with any of the Marvel Solo Hero Origin Films.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 5, 2017 20:11:04 GMT
Another thing that struck me as a Marvel fan who has always appreciated DC as well, was how much this felt like a Marvel movie. The use of humor was near perfect in this film, it was such an improvement from the 'dark for the sake of being dark' approach from the rest of the DCEU to date. Ditto for the latest Justice League trailer. I wonder how the DC zealots who are constantly complaining about humor in the MCU feel about this tonal shift? It's OK to have humor in a superhero movie, but there's a proper time and place for it and after 15 movies MCU still hasn't found the proper time and place. In The Avengers, aliens are invading Manhattan and all the Avengers are doing is standing around cracking 1-liners. In Age of Ultron, Ultron is killing people and all the Avengers are doing is standing around cracking 1-liners. In Wonder Woman, Patty Jenkins demonstrated the correct way to use humor in a superhero movie. Sure, Sameer, Charlie, and the Chief are constantly cracking jokes, but not when they were charging across No Man's Land with Diana and then helping Diana liberate the town from the German soldiers. Diana had plenty of light-hearted banter with Steve and even with Charlie (when she said if Charlie leaves, who will sing for us), but when Diana was traveling to the battlefront and saw the horrors of the war (e.g. the injured and wounded (some with amputated limbs) and the town burned down and reduced to rubble and women and children lying dead from the poisonous gas), there was no banter or jokes or 1-liners. If it were a MCU movie, MCU characters would be cracking jokes and 1-liners during those scenes of horror, reducing the impact of those scenes.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 5, 2017 20:12:06 GMT
IMO its superior to the 1st Avenger and BOTH Thor films . Has more heart and the jokes worked much better. Agreed. Wonder Woman is definitely a better movie than The First Avenger and both Thor movies.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 5, 2017 20:13:33 GMT
I can't see anything better about it. In fact I'd argue it has a lot of inconsistencies that neither Thor nor Cap possess. And I don't plan on watching it again, whereas I know I'll watch the other two plenty more times. It's better. Agree. Wonder Woman is definitely a better movie than The First Avenger and Thor movies.
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