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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 7, 2017 10:38:46 GMT
I'm down, though it'll always be regrettable than The Dark Knight wasn't the first. Ironically, The Dark Knight not being nominated for the Oscar for Best Picture may actually help Wonder Woman get nominated for the Oscar for Best Picture. The year after The Dark Knight was snubbed for an Oscar nomination for Best Picture, the Academy increased the number of films nominated for Best Picture to 10 films.
If it were still only 5 films nominated for Best Picture, then I don't think Wonder Woman would receive a nomination for the Oscar for Best Picture. But with 10 films nominated for Best Picture, I think there's a very good chance that Wonder Woman will receive a nomination for the Oscar for Best Picture. I think Wonder Woman will also receive Oscar nominations for Best Director, Best Cinematography, and Best Production Design.
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Post by sostie on Jun 7, 2017 11:23:26 GMT
The film had a private screening at the Academy this past Saturday to a packed audience. They stopped the film when Gal entered the theatre to a standing ovation. Rumor has it that the film might get nominated for Best Picture and/or Best Director. This would be ground breaking for a comic book movie. What do you think? I think there is a little hyperbole here. It was a packed audience, but how many were academy members? They can bring along up to 3 guests. (Are the tickets free? ). Someone is even quoted as saying it had more teens than usual at the screening. The audience was comparable with TFA (which has a 1% less RT score) and that didn't get a best pic Nomination. No one says anything about a possible Oscar Best Pic Nom - one person is quoted as saying "If a film like this can get Oscar attention, this might be the one this year." Saying if a comic book film gets nominated this is the one most likely. On the other hand, another attendee says "If I were a betting woman, I wouldn't bet on it. We have yet to see all the movies in the fall, and by that time people will not remember this so much. So I would be surprised." And nowhere does it mention a standing ovation, or that Gal Gadot was in attendance.
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Post by northernlad on Jun 7, 2017 14:48:01 GMT
I don't see it happening...especially not Best Picture. Maybe some technical stuff...like effects or something like that...but that's about it. It's still a great movie though! Will Wonder Woman win the Oscar for Best Picture? Probably not.
But will Wonder Woman be nominated for the Oscar for Best Picture? Well, if this was like the old days (when the Academy nominated only 5 films for Best Picture), then I would say No. But in 2009 the Academy increased the number of films nominated for Best Picture to 10 (ironically because The Dark Knight was snubbed for a Best Picture nomination). So with 10 films being nominated for Best Picture, I would say YES, Wonder Woman will be nominated for the Oscar for Best Picture.
With more and more CBMs being produced, the comic-book movie genre has become a legitimate genre like sci-fi or westerns. Eventually the Academy is going to nominate a CBM for Best Picture. And Wonder Woman gives them a great opportunity to do that because Wonder Woman is more than just the usual CBM.
Wonder Woman is also a period piece movie that focuses on war, a subject that the Academy likes to nominate films for Best Picture. Moreover, Wonder Woman not only focuses on World War I (which hasn't gotten as much coverage in films as World War II) but also does an excellent job of conveying the horrors and brutality of the Great War. It has the main character leaving the safety of her home to go on a journey which she thinks is her destiny but turns into an enlightenment about morality and the nature of humanity. It also has another main character making the ultimate sacrifice and it delivers a powerful and positive message. Those are all themes that the Academy likes to nominate films for Best Picture.
So I think Wonder Woman will be nominated for the Oscar for Best Picture. I think Wonder Woman will also receive Oscar nominations for Best Director, Best Cinematography, and Best Production Design.. I admire your optimism. I just don't see those prudes giving in and letting a CBM get nominated for best picture.
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Post by General Kenobi on Jun 7, 2017 19:43:15 GMT
If Crash can win an Oscar, I don't see why Wonder Woman can't.
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Post by nemesis617 on Jun 8, 2017 3:40:01 GMT
I don't see it happening...especially not Best Picture. Maybe some technical stuff...like effects or something like that...but that's about it. It's still a great movie though! I agree. It would be a nice change of pace though to see a comic book film win best picture. Only the films that hardly anyone watches always seem to get best picture.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jun 8, 2017 3:58:36 GMT
Nothing outside of the possibilities of best costume design, cinematography, make-up, sound, and visual effects.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 8, 2017 4:21:37 GMT
Well, if Suicide Squad won an Oscar despite its reception I guess it's all downhill from here.
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Post by dnno1 on Jun 24, 2017 16:35:47 GMT
RT works only when all MCU movies are fresh, and all DCEU rotten. Now that WW is in top 3 averages for Superhero movies, it doesn't matter. Like it doesn't matter that no MCU movie is in top 3 I'm not denying that it's a good movie. I'm just asking can you define how Wonder Woman is any better as a film. www.cbr.com/15-ways-wonder-woman-is-the-ultimate-captain-america-movie/
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Post by dnno1 on Jun 24, 2017 16:59:55 GMT
I found "Wonder Woman" to be better than "Arrival" and the latter film won an Oscar out of two nominations. That's all I'm saying.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2017 17:07:37 GMT
Wonder Woman is a alright film, but nothing special. I find it overrated to be completely honest. I had a good time in the theaters watching a popcorn action flick. Best Picture material? Hell no. Not even close.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2017 17:08:48 GMT
If any comic book blockbuster should be best picture nominated it should be "Logan".
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 24, 2017 17:12:45 GMT
Yeah I already read that and it doesn't justify it as any better than any of the actual Cap movies that we've seen so far.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 24, 2017 17:23:28 GMT
Yeah I already read that and it doesn't justify it as any better than any of the actual Cap movies that we've seen so far. I'll bite. I think WW is better than the first Captain America film because it had a more memorable supporting cast, a better sense of a period setting, a better job of showcasing just how terrible war can be, and gave the protagonist more of an emotional journey. In Captain America's case, he didn't really go through a "journey" so to speak. He was more or less the same character at the beginning of the film that he was at the end, just with muscles. Wonder Woman on the other hand, went from someone who saw the world as black and white, and had a childlike naivety to her, to someone who realized that the human race is flawed, but that they are still worth fighting for, as people like Steve Trevor demonstrated.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jun 24, 2017 17:35:14 GMT
If The Dark Knight wasn't nominated for Best Picture, then no comic book movie after it should either.
The Academy is run by individuals with political agendas. They don't care about movies anymore.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 24, 2017 17:54:48 GMT
If The Dark Knight wasn't nominated for Best Picture, then no comic book movie after it should either. Back in the 2008 award year, the Academy nominated only 5 movies for Best Picture. Because The Dark Knight was snubbed for an Oscar nomination, the Academy increased the number of movies nominated for Best Picture to 10 movies starting with the 2009 award year. That's why there's more of a chance that Wonder Woman (which has received ratings as high as The Dark Knight did) will be nominated for an Oscar for Best Picture.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 24, 2017 18:00:22 GMT
If The Dark Knight wasn't nominated for Best Picture, then no comic book movie after it should either. Back in the 2008 award year, the Academy nominated only 5 movies for Best Picture. Because The Dark Knight was snubbed for an Oscar nomination, the Academy increased the number of movies nominated for Best Picture to 10 movies starting with the 2009 award year. That's why there's more of a chance that Wonder Woman will be nominated for an Oscar for Best Picture. If any CBM this year has any shot of a Best Picture nod, 'Logan' seems more likely.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2017 20:59:48 GMT
If The Dark Knight wasn't nominated for Best Picture, then no comic book movie after it should either. The Academy is run by individuals with political agendas. They don't care about movies anymore.It's so sad, but true.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 24, 2017 21:32:47 GMT
Yeah I already read that and it doesn't justify it as any better than any of the actual Cap movies that we've seen so far. I'll bite. I think WW is better than the first Captain America film because it had a more memorable supporting cast, a better sense of a period setting, a better job of showcasing just how terrible war can be, and gave the protagonist more of an emotional journey. In Captain America's case, he didn't really go through a "journey" so to speak. He was more or less the same character at the beginning of the film that he was at the end, just with muscles. Wonder Woman on the other hand, went from someone who saw the world as black and white, and had a childlike naivety to her, to someone who realized that the human race is flawed, but that they are still worth fighting for, as people like Steve Trevor demonstrated. I don't see how the WW cast is more memorable. Peggy Carter alone trumps anybody else in WW. A better sense of a period setting? I don't see how as Cap spent quite a lot of time in WWII America and did extremely well with it. A better job of showcasing how terrible war can be? When was that the point and why does that make it better? The protagonist more an emotional journey? Are you kidding me? Did you not hear the conversation with Peggy at the end? Did you not see him wake up 70 years later an his first thoughts were of missing his dance with her?
Captain America is the same the character he was at the start THAT'S THE ENTIRE POINT!!!! He's a great guy who always does the right thing. That is his character, so if that is going to be held against him, you've missed the point. I can't believe you're going to try and act like that is a reason WW is a better film. Cap is not about him changing, it's about how he changes others.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jun 24, 2017 21:35:55 GMT
If The Dark Knight wasn't nominated for Best Picture, then no comic book movie after it should either. Back in the 2008 award year, the Academy nominated only 5 movies for Best Picture. Because The Dark Knight was snubbed for an Oscar nomination, the Academy increased the number of movies nominated for Best Picture to 10 movies starting with the 2009 award year. That's why there's more of a chance that Wonder Woman will be nominated for an Oscar for Best Picture. Hate to break it to you, but Heath really only got the award because his costars advocated for it and recommended it to the Academy Awards. They by no means we're looking at The Dark Knight. If they really were, then his performance should have opened up the bigger Awards in the Oscars like Best Actor/Supporting Actor. RDJ easily gave an Oscar-winning performance in the first Iron Man film, which came out the same year. It'll be interesting to see at the next ceremony, but Hugh Jackman and even Patrick Stewart gave an Oscar-winning performance as well in Logan and we all know they won't be getting any, but it's also easily an Best Picture winner as well. I don't think Wonder Woman really falls under that catogry because quite frankly, it seems like politics are what really driving it because it's one of the first major female-lead film. Great, but why does that qualify as best picture. It's still pretty generic and simple in places and not the most original film either. Either way, no way it's winning Best Picture
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 24, 2017 21:54:48 GMT
I'll bite. I think WW is better than the first Captain America film because it had a more memorable supporting cast, a better sense of a period setting, a better job of showcasing just how terrible war can be, and gave the protagonist more of an emotional journey. In Captain America's case, he didn't really go through a "journey" so to speak. He was more or less the same character at the beginning of the film that he was at the end, just with muscles. Wonder Woman on the other hand, went from someone who saw the world as black and white, and had a childlike naivety to her, to someone who realized that the human race is flawed, but that they are still worth fighting for, as people like Steve Trevor demonstrated. I don't see how the WW cast is more memorable. Peggy Carter alone trumps anybody else in WW. A better sense of a period setting? I don't see how as Cap spent quite a lot of time in WWII America and did extremely well with it. A better job of showcasing how terrible war can be? When was that the point and why does that make it better? The protagonist more an emotional journey? Are you kidding me? Did you not hear the conversation with Peggy at the end? Did you not see him wake up 70 years later an his first thoughts were of missing his dance with her?
Captain America is the same the character he was at the start THAT'S THE ENTIRE POINT!!!! He's a great guy who always does the right thing. That is his character, so if that is going to be held against him, you've missed the point. I can't believe you're going to try and act like that is a reason WW is a better film. Cap is not about him changing, it's about how he changes others.
I don't see how Peggy Carter necessarily trumps Steve Trevor, but I was more specifically referring to characters like Sameer, Charlie, and Etta, who were all much more memorable than the Howling Commandos. Also, given that both films feature World Wars as a major part of their respective stories, I'd say that showcasing the horrors of war is a pretty big plus on WW's end. Finally, CA didn't dwell on Steve Rogers missing 70 years of his life. Him ending up in present day occurred at the very end of the film.
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