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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 24, 2017 23:12:35 GMT
I don't see how Peggy Carter necessarily trumps Steve Trevor, but I was more specifically referring to characters like Sameer, Charlie, and Etta, who were all much more memorable than the Howling Commandos. Also, given that both films feature World Wars as a major part of their respective stories, I'd say that showcasing the horrors of war is a pretty big plus on WW's end. Finally, CA didn't dwell on Steve Rogers missing 70 years of his life. Him ending up in present day occurred at the very end of the film. I couldn't have even told you Sameer, Charlie, or Etta's names and if you had given me a multiple choice test I don't know that I would have picked them out. That's how memorable they were. Also they didn't do anything to enhance the movie in a way that the Howling commandos didn't, and they were basically obvious rip offs anyway. There were numerous scenes of the commandos involvement and I'd love to see more, whereas I've got no interest in seeing the others because they're just random characters in the movie. The commandos are a deep tie in to Cap's past.
It didn't need to dwell on Steve missing 70 years, the one line of him missing his dance perfectly summed it up.
And again, WW isn't Saving Private Ryan. That was a film that deals with the horrors of war. Nothing WW did in that regard makes it some statement piece on war, so I don't know how that's any sort of significant edge against First Avenger.
And then we have WW's jumbled ending, where Ares reveals himself and it makes very little sense. Is he just lonely? Because if he hadn't revealed himself, he already had her beaten. He puts on armor from scrap metal for no apparent reason other than for fans to think he looks cool I guess? IDK. I really don't. He has random powers that make him half magneto and half emperor palpatine. Oh and he appears in mirrors or something? I have no idea what that was for. And Wonder Woman doesn't even beat him. She's the god killer weapon right? But she needed his force lightening to win, so what was she going to do if he hadn't have attacked her with it? Beats me.
There's just very little weight to that whole ending.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 24, 2017 23:33:43 GMT
I don't see how Peggy Carter necessarily trumps Steve Trevor, but I was more specifically referring to characters like Sameer, Charlie, and Etta, who were all much more memorable than the Howling Commandos. Also, given that both films feature World Wars as a major part of their respective stories, I'd say that showcasing the horrors of war is a pretty big plus on WW's end. Finally, CA didn't dwell on Steve Rogers missing 70 years of his life. Him ending up in present day occurred at the very end of the film. I couldn't have even told you Sameer, Charlie, or Etta's names and if you had given me a multiple choice test I don't know that I would have picked them out. That's how memorable they were. Also they didn't do anything to enhance the movie in a way that the Howling commandos didn't, and they were basically obvious rip offs anyway. There were numerous scenes of the commandos involvement and I'd love to see more, whereas I've got no interest in seeing the others because they're just random characters in the movie. The commandos are a deep tie in to Cap's past.
It didn't need to dwell on Steve missing 70 years, the one line of him missing his dance perfectly summed it up.
And again, WW isn't Saving Private Ryan. That was a film that deals with the horrors of war. Nothing WW did in that regard makes it some statement piece on war, so I don't know how that's any sort of significant edge against First Avenger.
And then we have WW's jumbled ending, where Ares reveals himself and it makes very little sense. Is he just lonely? Because if he hadn't revealed himself, he already had her beaten. He puts on armor from scrap metal for no apparent reason other than for fans to think he looks cool I guess? IDK. I really don't. He has random powers that make him half magneto and half emperor palpatine. Oh and he appears in mirrors or something? I have no idea what that was for. And Wonder Woman doesn't even beat him. She's the god killer weapon right? But she needed his force lightening to win, so what was she going to do if he hadn't have attacked her with it? Beats me.
There's just very little weight to that whole ending.
I couldn't have even told you the Howling Commandos names. They didn't get any real chance to shine as individuals, they were just sort of there. Also, WW did make a statement on war, since being introduced to the realities of war, and how they're basically a part of human nature was what caused Diana to lose her naivety. Also, the reason Ares revealed himself to Diana was because he was trying to get her on his side. He knew that she was the only other God left, so instead of making an enemy out of her, Ares wanted to convince her to join him so that they could wipe out humanity.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 24, 2017 23:51:16 GMT
I couldn't have even told you the Howling Commandos names. They didn't get any real chance to shine as individuals, they were just sort of there. Also, WW did make a statement on war, since being introduced to the realities of war, and how they're basically a part of human nature was what caused Diana to lose her naivety. Also, the reason Ares revealed himself to Diana was because he was trying to get her on his side. He knew that she was the only other God left, so instead of making an enemy out of her, Ares wanted to convince her to join him so that they could wipe out humanity. Right. I didn't say you could say the Howling Commandos names. I just said the WW characters aren't any more impactful.
The fact that they drive threw a war torn city doesn't make it better, when Caps entire motivation for being cap was the war. He lived and breathed it.
He knows full well she intended to kill him, and he thinks she'll just side with him to wipe out humanity 2 minutes later? He knows full well she's far more connected to her Amazon people and to saving humans than she is to being a god, something she only found out about in the past few days. That's one of the worst villain plans I've ever heard and part of why the ending is such a mess.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 25, 2017 0:35:30 GMT
I couldn't have even told you the Howling Commandos names. They didn't get any real chance to shine as individuals, they were just sort of there. Also, WW did make a statement on war, since being introduced to the realities of war, and how they're basically a part of human nature was what caused Diana to lose her naivety. Also, the reason Ares revealed himself to Diana was because he was trying to get her on his side. He knew that she was the only other God left, so instead of making an enemy out of her, Ares wanted to convince her to join him so that they could wipe out humanity. Right. I didn't say you could say the Howling Commandos names. I just said the WW characters aren't any more impactful.
The fact that they drive threw a war torn city doesn't make it better, when Caps entire motivation for being cap was the war. He lived and breathed it.
He knows full well she intended to kill him, and he thinks she'll just side with him to wipe out humanity 2 minutes later? He knows full well she's far more connected to her Amazon people and to saving humans than she is to being a god, something she only found out about in the past few days. That's one of the worst villain plans I've ever heard and part of why the ending is such a mess.
To me, they were more memorable. Keep in mind, this is only my own two cents on why I consider WW a better movie. Regarding why Ares would believe Diana would join her, his assumption seemed to be that if Diana would come to realize that humans are supposedly evil creatures that deserve to die, then she would want to join Ares, given how much she despises evil.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 25, 2017 0:43:01 GMT
To me, they were more memorable. Keep in mind, this is only my own two cents on why I consider WW a better movie. Regarding why Ares would believe Diana would join her, his assumption seemed to be that if Diana would come to realize that humans are supposedly evil creatures that deserve to die, then she would want to join Ares, given how much she despises evil. Sure, and my two cents are that I don't care about those characters at all, I do care about the commandoes, WW's ending was a bit of a mess, and First Avenger stuck the landing.
Ares thinking a woman, who only moments ago loved humanity, would suddenly be willing to kill them all, is absurd for a supposed god with the social skills of a master manipulator.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 25, 2017 0:50:15 GMT
To me, they were more memorable. Keep in mind, this is only my own two cents on why I consider WW a better movie. Regarding why Ares would believe Diana would join her, his assumption seemed to be that if Diana would come to realize that humans are supposedly evil creatures that deserve to die, then she would want to join Ares, given how much she despises evil. Sure, and my two cents are that I don't care about those characters at all, I do care about the commandoes, WW's ending was a bit of a mess, and First Avenger stuck the landing.
Ares thinking a woman, who only moments ago loved humanity, would suddenly be willing to kill them all, is absurd for a supposed god with the social skills of a master manipulator.
Ares only chose to reveal himself to Diana when she was at her lowest point. She had officially lost her faith in humanity to the point where she no longer wanted to fight. Ares was trying to use that hopelessness to convince her that humans need to die. That's why he told her that he had nothing to do with the war. He simply underestimated her compassion.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 25, 2017 2:58:04 GMT
Ares only chose to reveal himself to Diana when she was at her lowest point. She had officially lost her faith in humanity to the point where she no longer wanted to fight. Ares was trying to use that hopelessness to convince her that humans need to die. That's why he told her that he had nothing to do with the war. He simply underestimated her compassion. Exactly, which means she only won because he revealed himself, not because she outsmarted him. She also didn't over power him, as it was his power she used against him, not her own. So the end comes off as more of Ares just really fucking up than it does WW doing anything to win.
If he was any sort of a genius he would have at least used her despair to say he'd tried to stop the war, but the humans were just out of control. She might have bought that. But no, he said he hates them and wants the planet for his self, as though that was going to work.
Just consider what would have happened if Ares had just smiled to himself and left her alone. She would have been a sad depressed mess her whole life and he could have continued sewing war. She would have never found him, which is why I said she didn't win, he lost.
Also, why the weird power set? Appearing in windows? What?
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Post by dnno1 on Jun 25, 2017 4:41:45 GMT
Yeah I already read that and it doesn't justify it as any better than any of the actual Cap movies that we've seen so far. Well, either you didn't read the article or you just don't want to believe that Wonder Woman is a better film. I will revert back to the point that Wonder Woman has made more in box office revenue that Captain America, so obviously more people were willing to pay the money to go see it in theaters than Captain America: The First Avenger (heck, Wonder Woman even has better legs).
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Post by dnno1 on Jun 25, 2017 4:43:29 GMT
The Warners are so pleased with Wonder Woman that they put her on the cover of the TWX Annual Report.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 25, 2017 4:54:48 GMT
Yeah I already read that and it doesn't justify it as any better than any of the actual Cap movies that we've seen so far. Well, either you didn't read the article or you just don't want to believe that Wonder Woman is a better film. I will revert back to the point that Wonder Woman has made more in box office revenue that Captain America, so obviously more people were willing to pay the money to go see it in theaters than Captain America: The First Avenger (heck, Wonder Woman even has better legs). First Avenger and the MCU's success as a whole along with films like TDK in all fairness are why these movies are worth more now. It's in no way an indication that it's a better film. That's absurd.
And yes I read the article, but I could write an article on why First Avenger is the better film, so I don't know why you think that one article is the end of the argument.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 25, 2017 6:06:35 GMT
Back in the 2008 award year, the Academy nominated only 5 movies for Best Picture. Because The Dark Knight was snubbed for an Oscar nomination, the Academy increased the number of movies nominated for Best Picture to 10 movies starting with the 2009 award year. That's why there's more of a chance that Wonder Woman will be nominated for an Oscar for Best Picture. If any CBM this year has any shot of a Best Picture nod, 'Logan' seems more likely. It depends on how much Fox campaigns for Logan and/or how much WB campaigns for Wonder Woman. I think Wonder Woman has a better shot than Logan because Wonder Woman is the 1st CBM ever that has been a 4-quadrant movie - it's been a hit with young and old, male and female viewers. Wonder Woman appeals to a much larger audience than Logan.
Also, Wonder Woman has gotten much more media coverage than Logan (every other day there seems to be an article about Wonder Woman breaking a box office record) and has a much more bigger and lasting impact than Logan. Wonder Woman not only opens the door for more female-led superhero movies but also could open the door for many more opportunities for female directors to direct big-budget movies.
Male directors who have never directed a big-budget movie often get hired to direct big-budget movies without anyone questioning their lack of experience directing big-budget movies, but female directors hardly ever get that opportunity. WB gave Patty Jenkins that opportunity and she delivered 1 of the best CBMs ever and certainly better than any of MCU's movies. Jenkins' success on Wonder Woman could open the door for female directors to be given some of the same opportunities that male directors are often handed.
We shall get a better idea of whether Wonder Woman might be nominated for an Oscar for Best Picture on December 11, when the Golden Globe nominations are announced.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jun 25, 2017 6:15:08 GMT
If any CBM this year has any shot of a Best Picture nod, 'Logan' seems more likely. It depends on how much Fox campaigns for Logan and/or how much WB campaigns for Wonder Woman. I think Wonder Woman has a better shot than Logan because Wonder Woman is the 1st CBM ever that has been a 4-quadrant movie - it's been a hit with young and old, male and female viewers. Wonder Woman appeals to a much larger audience than Logan.
Also, Wonder Woman has gotten much more media coverage than Logan (every other day there seems to be an article about Wonder Woman breaking a box office record) and has a much more bigger and lasting impact than Logan. Wonder Woman not only opens the door for more female-led superhero movies but also could open the door for many more opportunities for female directors to direct big-budget movies.
Male directors who have never directed a big-budget movie often get hired to direct big-budget movies without anyone questioning their lack of experience directing big-budget movies, but female directors hardly ever get that opportunity. WB gave Patty Jenkins that opportunity and she delivered 1 of the best CBMs ever and certainly better than any of MCU's movies. Jenkins' success on Wonder Woman could open the door for female directors to be given some of the same opportunities that male directors are often handed.
We shall get a better idea of whether Wonder Woman might be nominated for an Oscar for Best Picture on December 11, when the Golden Globe nominations are announced.
I'd say the Wolverine in general can be applied to the 4-quadrant rule as everyone loves the character, young and old. And he's been in both R-rated and PG-13 movies, so he appeals to all ages. But answer me this though, what exactly qualifies Wonder Woman as a Best Picture?? There's nothing particularly original about it, and has a very generic and simple plot for the most part. Sure it's one of the better female-lead film, okay, but why does that qualify as best picture? Why should politics and gender issues and such merit into the quality of how the Oscars chooses? Seriously, the Oscars are a joke anyways
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 25, 2017 6:36:32 GMT
Heath really only got the award because his costars advocated for it and recommended it to the Academy Awards. That's a pathetic excuse by Marvel fans to try to discredit Heath Ledger and The Dark Knight. That's as pathetic as the Democrats trying to suggest that the Russians tampered with the Presidential election. Whether or not the Russians might have hacked crooked Hillary's e-mails or spread other propaganda, unless there's clear evidence that any actual votes were changed by the Russians, then no one can say for sure that the reason people voted for Trump over crooked Hillary because of the Russians. And unless you have an admission from a majority of Academy voters that they voted for Ledger only because his co-stars advocated for it, then you can't say for sure that they voted for Ledger because of that and not because Ledger really was the best that year. RDJ easily gave an Oscar-winning performance in the first Iron Man film LOL!!! You're saying that RDJ should've won the Oscar over Sean Penn's portrayal of Harvey Milk, who was San Francisco's 1st gay supervisor and was assassinated? RDJ's performance was nothing close to Sean Penn's performance in Milk or Heath Ledger's performance in The Dark Knight and certainly nothing close to Oscar-worthy. no way it's winning Best Picture I never said Wonder Woman would win the Oscar for Best Picture. On the contrary, I've said that Wonder Woman probably won't win the Oscar for Best Picture because the Academy is probably not ready yet to award the Oscar for Best Picture to a CBM. But with 10 movies being nominated for Best Picture (instead of only 5 like in 2008, when The Dark Knight was snubbed for an Oscar nomination), I think Wonder Woman has a great chance to receive the Academy's 1st Best Picture nomination for a CBM. Last year, the Golden Globes nominated a CBM for Best Picture for the 1st time ever (Deadpool, although that was in the Comedy category) so this year the Academy may be ready to nominated a CBM for Best Picture for the 1st time ever. And if the Academy is going to nominate a CBM for Best Picture for the 1st time ever, they're not going to nominate just any CBM; they're going to want to choose a CBM like Wonder Woman that's not only a universal hit with all audiences but also has the potential for a large lasting impact on the industry. the Wolverine in general can be applied to the 4-quadrant rule as everyone loves the character, young and old. The Wolverine doesn't appeal to female audiences. So that's 1/2 of the viewing audience that The Wolverine doesn't appeal to.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 25, 2017 7:08:37 GMT
I don't see how Peggy Carter necessarily trumps Steve Trevor Steve Trevor is a much better character than Peggy Carter. Sameer, Charlie, and Etta, who were all much more memorable than the Howling Commandos. Agreed. given that both films feature World Wars as a major part of their respective stories, I'd say that showcasing the horrors of war is a pretty big plus on WW's end. Agreed. I couldn't have even told you the Howling Commandos names. They didn't get any real chance to shine as individuals, they were just sort of there. Agreed. I can't tell you the names of the Howling Commandos either. The Howling Commandos were so forgettable that they were as unnoticeable in Captain America: The First Avenger as Wonder Woman's invisible jet was in Wonder Woman. LOL!!! WW did make a statement on war, since being introduced to the realities of war, and how they're basically a part of human nature Agreed. the reason Ares revealed himself to Diana was because he was trying to get her on his side. Ares only chose to reveal himself to Diana when she was at her lowest point. She had officially lost her faith in humanity to the point where she no longer wanted to fight. Ares was trying to use that hopelessness to convince her that humans need to die. Yes. Ares was basically saying to Diana "You're not 1 of these pathetic humans. You're a God, like me. These humans are beneath you. They're evil and they deserve to be destroyed. Join me and we'll rebuild a better world in our image."
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Post by formersamhmd on Jun 25, 2017 10:42:09 GMT
I don't see how Peggy Carter necessarily trumps Steve Trevor Steve Trevor is a much better character than Peggy Carter. Sameer, Charlie, and Etta, who were all much more memorable than the Howling Commandos. Agreed. given that both films feature World Wars as a major part of their respective stories, I'd say that showcasing the horrors of war is a pretty big plus on WW's end. Agreed. I couldn't have even told you the Howling Commandos names. They didn't get any real chance to shine as individuals, they were just sort of there. Agreed. I can't tell you the names of the Howling Commandos either. The Howling Commandos were so forgettable that they were as unnoticeable in Captain America: The First Avenger as Wonder Woman's invisible jet was in Wonder Woman. LOL!!! WW did make a statement on war, since being introduced to the realities of war, and how they're basically a part of human nature Agreed. the reason Ares revealed himself to Diana was because he was trying to get her on his side. Ares only chose to reveal himself to Diana when she was at her lowest point. She had officially lost her faith in humanity to the point where she no longer wanted to fight. Ares was trying to use that hopelessness to convince her that humans need to die. Yes. Ares was basically saying to Diana "You're not 1 of these pathetic humans. You're a God, like me. These humans are beneath you. They're evil and they deserve to be destroyed. Join me and we'll rebuild a better world in our image." Nah, all Steve Trevor has going for him was a "noble death". Nothing more.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jun 25, 2017 12:05:37 GMT
If The Dark Knight didn't get best picture, than no way in hell will Wonder Woman.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jun 25, 2017 13:11:27 GMT
Heath really only got the award because his costars advocated for it and recommended it to the Academy Awards. That's a pathetic excuse by Marvel fans to try to discredit Heath Ledger and The Dark Knight. That's as pathetic as the Democrats trying to suggest that the Russians tampered with the Presidential election. Whether or not the Russians might have hacked crooked Hillary's e-mails or spread other propaganda, unless there's clear evidence that any actual votes were changed by the Russians, then no one can say for sure that the reason people voted for Trump over crooked Hillary because of the Russians. And unless you have an admission from a majority of Academy voters that they voted for Ledger only because his co-stars advocated for it, then you can't say for sure that they voted for Ledger because of that and not because Ledger really was the best that year. RDJ easily gave an Oscar-winning performance in the first Iron Man film LOL!!! You're saying that RDJ should've won the Oscar over Sean Penn's portrayal of Harvey Milk, who was San Francisco's 1st gay supervisor and was assassinated? RDJ's performance was nothing close to Sean Penn's performance in Milk or Heath Ledger's performance in The Dark Knight and certainly nothing close to Oscar-worthy. no way it's winning Best Picture I never said Wonder Woman would win the Oscar for Best Picture. On the contrary, I've said that Wonder Woman probably won't win the Oscar for Best Picture because the Academy is probably not ready yet to award the Oscar for Best Picture to a CBM. But with 10 movies being nominated for Best Picture (instead of only 5 like in 2008, when The Dark Knight was snubbed for an Oscar nomination), I think Wonder Woman has a great chance to receive the Academy's 1st Best Picture nomination for a CBM. Last year, the Golden Globes nominated a CBM for Best Picture for the 1st time ever (Deadpool, although that was in the Comedy category) so this year the Academy may be ready to nominated a CBM for Best Picture for the 1st time ever. And if the Academy is going to nominate a CBM for Best Picture for the 1st time ever, they're not going to nominate just any CBM; they're going to want to choose a CBM like Wonder Woman that's not only a universal hit with all audiences but also has the potential for a large lasting impact on the industry. the Wolverine in general can be applied to the 4-quadrant rule as everyone loves the character, young and old. The Wolverine doesn't appeal to female audiences. So that's 1/2 of the viewing audience that The Wolverine doesn't appeal to. They really did tho. Seriously, if the Academy was really looking at The Dark Knight and Ledger's performance, it should have opened up bigger awards for winning or even being nominated for like Best Actor/Supporting Actor/Director/Picture/Screenplay etc instead of just the technical stuff most superhero films usually get. But not one has. So yeah, a big part of why Ledger got the award was because many of his costars recommended him for the role and then got a lot of sympathy votes after he died. I'm not saying he didn't deserve it or anything. But also, why would the Oscars just all of a sudden decide to include a superhero film after ignoring some of the greatest superhero films and roles in the past. Spider-Man 2, one of the greatest ever, both as a film and superhero film. Even Alfred Molina's Doc OC's portrayal are easily worthy of an Oscar nomination. X2-X-Men United, hell and Ian McKellen's performance as Magneto. It's one of the strongest superhero performance on par with Ledger's Joker. Obviously your opinion you don't think RDJ gave an Oscar-winning performance, but there is a general consensus that believe he deserved an nomination as it was one of his strongest roles because he really is Tony Stark. Obviously any historical character is just Oscar-bait, so obviously it was going to win. And if Logan doesn't get an nomination either, then the Oscars only gave it to Ledger out of sympathy. Again, not saying he didn't deserve it, but Logan was ground breaking for superhero films. Hell, it's even Hugh Jackman's strongest performance as the Wolverine and I'd like to see him get an nomination over Best Picture (because there are a few plot points in the story I didn't like). Answer me this, how is Wonder Woman Best Picture-worthy, whether it's for just a nomination or win?? Because it's one of the first major female-lead film?? Great, but how does that qualify it for Best Picture whether it's a nomination or win?? That seems to be all you're on about. Overall it's a very simple and generic superhero film, nothing particularly original about it. And the Wolverine does have a huge female audience. I know plenty of girls who actually love Hugh Jackmen. It's mostly younger female audience who he appeals to, but he does have a big fan base for both men and women
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Post by dnno1 on Jun 25, 2017 15:12:01 GMT
Well, either you didn't read the article or you just don't want to believe that Wonder Woman is a better film. I will revert back to the point that Wonder Woman has made more in box office revenue that Captain America, so obviously more people were willing to pay the money to go see it in theaters than Captain America: The First Avenger (heck, Wonder Woman even has better legs). First Avenger and the MCU's success as a whole along with films like TDK in all fairness are why these movies are worth more now. It's in no way an indication that it's a better film. That's absurd.
And yes I read the article, but I could write an article on why First Avenger is the better film, so I don't know why you think that one article is the end of the argument.
Because, you asked for a reason why Wonder Woman was better. The article listed 15. End of argument.
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Post by dnno1 on Jun 25, 2017 15:23:40 GMT
Heath really only got the award because his costars advocated for it and recommended it to the Academy Awards. That's a pathetic excuse by Marvel fans to try to discredit Heath Ledger and The Dark Knight. That's as pathetic as the Democrats trying to suggest that the Russians tampered with the Presidential election. Whether or not the Russians might have hacked crooked Hillary's e-mails or spread other propaganda, unless there's clear evidence that any actual votes were changed by the Russians, then no one can say for sure that the reason people voted for Trump over crooked Hillary because of the Russians. And unless you have an admission from a majority of Academy voters that they voted for Ledger only because his co-stars advocated for it, then you can't say for sure that they voted for Ledger because of that and not because Ledger really was the best that year. RDJ easily gave an Oscar-winning performance in the first Iron Man film LOL!!! You're saying that RDJ should've won the Oscar over Sean Penn's portrayal of Harvey Milk, who was San Francisco's 1st gay supervisor and was assassinated? RDJ's performance was nothing close to Sean Penn's performance in Milk or Heath Ledger's performance in The Dark Knight and certainly nothing close to Oscar-worthy. no way it's winning Best Picture I never said Wonder Woman would win the Oscar for Best Picture. On the contrary, I've said that Wonder Woman probably won't win the Oscar for Best Picture because the Academy is probably not ready yet to award the Oscar for Best Picture to a CBM. But with 10 movies being nominated for Best Picture (instead of only 5 like in 2008, when The Dark Knight was snubbed for an Oscar nomination), I think Wonder Woman has a great chance to receive the Academy's 1st Best Picture nomination for a CBM. Last year, the Golden Globes nominated a CBM for Best Picture for the 1st time ever (Deadpool, although that was in the Comedy category) so this year the Academy may be ready to nominated a CBM for Best Picture for the 1st time ever. And if the Academy is going to nominate a CBM for Best Picture for the 1st time ever, they're not going to nominate just any CBM; they're going to want to choose a CBM like Wonder Woman that's not only a universal hit with all audiences but also has the potential for a large lasting impact on the industry. the Wolverine in general can be applied to the 4-quadrant rule as everyone loves the character, young and old. The Wolverine doesn't appeal to female audiences. So that's 1/2 of the viewing audience that The Wolverine doesn't appeal to. In this Indirewire piece by Anne Thompson, the author predicts that Gal Gadot and Chris Pine will get nominated for Best Actress and Best Supporting Actor based on the Academy's penchant for inclusion. Sure, nobody said that the film would win an Oscar, but there certainly is talk about the film getting Oscar consideration.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 16:39:34 GMT
It was a damn good movie, it would be deserving of an Academy Award nomination. It's a step in the right direction for female led CBMs
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