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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2017 1:56:23 GMT
I don't think Raimi even wanted Venom in Spider-man 3 at all, he was forced to include him. Venom should have been done over two movies, he was horribly rushed. I don't mind the TASM movies being rebooted but it was a shame the Raimi movies had to be rebooted, Spider-man 2 is still the best Spider-man movie they've made so far. I am aware. My point is that he should have been anticipating having Venom pushed on him instead of being blind-sided by it. No, Homecoming is the best Spider-Man movie they've made so far. To be fair though. Sony pushed it on him after they had a script with Vulture. They had to rewrite a new villain, not to mention the Symbiote, into the script. That's why it became a mess. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2017 1:58:01 GMT
Ah! So you do like SM2 then? Course I like it, I just don't think it's perfect or that it's impossible for there to be any Spidey movies made in the future that match or surpass it. Well, I'm glad you like it then. Out of curiosity, if you were to compare it to the entire MCU, how many movies is SM2 better than? |
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Nov 26, 2017 1:59:22 GMT
Got to RT and Metacritic. Nah, Disney bought those good scores. What an amazing display of amazing stupidity! |
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 26, 2017 2:00:36 GMT
Course I like it, I just don't think it's perfect or that it's impossible for there to be any Spidey movies made in the future that match or surpass it. Well, I'm glad you like it then. Out of curiosity, if you were to compare it to the entire MCU, how many movies is SM2 better than? Well, my opinion on it has changed over the years mainly due to my dislike for Maguire. So I'm not sure I'd give a proper comparison. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 26, 2017 2:01:13 GMT
Course I like it, I just don't think it's perfect or that it's impossible for there to be any Spidey movies made in the future that match or surpass it. Well, I'm glad you like it then. Out of curiosity, if you were to compare it to the entire MCU, how many movies is SM2 better than? is better then every MCU movie. Spider-Man 2 is 1 of the best superhero movies ever. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2017 2:03:43 GMT
Well, I'm glad you like it then. Out of curiosity, if you were to compare it to the entire MCU, how many movies is SM2 better than? Well, my opinion on it has changed over the years mainly due to my dislike for Maguire. So I'm not sure I'd give a proper comparison. Fair enough. I do think MacGuire gets too much hate nowadays though. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2017 2:05:05 GMT
Well, I'm glad you like it then. Out of curiosity, if you were to compare it to the entire MCU, how many movies is SM2 better than? is better then every MCU movie. Spider-Man 2 is 1 of the best superhero movies ever. I'm not an MCU hater. But I do agree with that assessment. SM2 is my second favorite right behind TDK. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 26, 2017 2:05:06 GMT
Well, I'm glad you like it then. Out of curiosity, if you were to compare it to the entire MCU, how many movies is SM2 better than? is better then every MCU movie. Spider-Man 2 is 1 of the best superhero movies ever. Nah, it just didn't have any competition and now has nostalgia on its side. It wouldn't do as well in today's environment with CBMs more accepted thanks to the MCU's hard work. Same with the X-Films. None of the OT would do as well today. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 26, 2017 2:09:37 GMT
Nah, WB would never do anything questionable while Disney is evil. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 26, 2017 2:10:18 GMT
Nah, Disney bought those good scores. What an amazing display of amazing stupidity! Nah, the truth just hurts if you're a marky mark. |
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Nov 26, 2017 2:17:43 GMT
Nah, WB would never do anything questionable while Disney is evil. You’re truly special man! Keep it up! |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 26, 2017 2:24:33 GMT
Nah, WB would never do anything questionable while Disney is evil. You’re truly special man! Keep it up! Hey, thanks! I'm glad you came around, man. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2017 2:34:12 GMT
Spider-Man 2 is better then every MCU movie. Spider-Man 2 is 1 of the best superhero movies ever. Nah, it just didn't have any competition and now has nostalgia on its side. It wouldn't do as well in today's environment with CBMs more accepted thanks to the MCU's hard work. Same with the X-Films. None of the OT would do as well today. No. Raimi was a superb director and those movies have cinematography and action sequences that are still second to none. The screenplays are also top notch for those first two Spideys. Only a handful of MCU movies are up to that level of quality. You cannot possibly tell me that Iron Man 3 or Thor 2 or Ant Man are anywhere near as good as those movies. Can you? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2017 2:35:30 GMT
I wouldn't really say that was a major problem with the movie. It was a real good movie, it was funny, it has some great action scenes, one of the best fights in a superhero movie still. They made a good villain out of Doctor Octopus who was a bit of a joke at times in the comics. It was also different from most superhero movies that you get today as well. It didn't just revolve around the generic plot of a Superhero beating a Supervillain, it wasn't all about Spider-man, it was also about Peter Parker losing his powers and his relationship with Harry Osbourne and Mary Jane. Of course that part was what helped make those movies so much much successful than any of the competition because they appealed to women as well. Those Raimi Spider-man movies had a certain magic to them that they'll never get back again. Spider-man Homecoming was good but like the other thread suggested it was a bit formulaic so doesn't stand out as much. Very well said. I agree with every word |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 26, 2017 2:38:39 GMT
Nah, it just didn't have any competition and now has nostalgia on its side. It wouldn't do as well in today's environment with CBMs more accepted thanks to the MCU's hard work. Same with the X-Films. None of the OT would do as well today. No. Raimi was a superb director and those movies have cinematography and action sequences that are still second to none. The screenplays are also top notch for those first two Spideys. Only a handful of MCU movies are up to that level of quality. Agreed, I think his logic is backwards, if anything, MCU has made superhero films more popular and accepted than they were, meaning that SM2 would be even more successful and more highly praised now than it was then. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2017 2:42:13 GMT
No. Raimi was a superb director and those movies have cinematography and action sequences that are still second to none. The screenplays are also top notch for those first two Spideys. Only a handful of MCU movies are up to that level of quality. Agreed, I think his logic is backwards, if anything, MCU has made superhero films more popular and accepted than they were, meaning that SM2 would be even more successful and more highly praised now than it was then. Indeed! Comic book flicks have gotten lazy as of late. Even mediocre movies in the genre are celebrated now. Something like SM2 would blow the competition away! |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 26, 2017 2:46:27 GMT
Agreed, I think his logic is backwards, if anything, MCU has made superhero films more popular and accepted than they were, meaning that SM2 would be even more successful and more highly praised now than it was then. Indeed! Comic book flicks have gotten lazy as of late. Even mediocre movies in the genre are celebrated now. Something like SM2 would blow the competition away!  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2017 2:48:07 GMT
Nah, it just didn't have any competition and now has nostalgia on its side. It wouldn't do as well in today's environment with CBMs more accepted thanks to the MCU's hard work. Same with the X-Films. None of the OT would do as well today. No. Raimi was a superb director and those movies have cinematography and action sequences that are still second to none. The screenplays are also top notch for those first two Spideys. Only a handful of MCU movies are up to that level of quality. You cannot possibly tell me that Iron Man 3 or Thor 2 or Ant Man are anywhere near as good as those movies. Can you? I'd rather watch Ironman 3, Thor 2, and Ant-Man a million times before touching one of Raimi's films again. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2017 2:49:29 GMT
Indeed! Comic book flicks have gotten lazy as of late. Even mediocre movies in the genre are celebrated now. Something like SM2 would blow the competition away! YEAH!!!!!1 A better action sequence than anything in the MCU and the DCEU!!!!!!!% |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2017 2:49:36 GMT
Agreed, I think his logic is backwards, if anything, MCU has made superhero films more popular and accepted than they were, meaning that SM2 would be even more successful and more highly praised now than it was then. Indeed! Comic book flicks have gotten lazy as of late. Even mediocre movies in the genre are celebrated now. Something like SM2 would blow the competition away! Opinion. Subjective. You are not the authority and you do not speak for anyone. You do not get to decide what's lazy and what's not. You do not get to decide if something is worthy of praise or not. So just shut up. |
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