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Post by Larcen26 on Dec 20, 2017 21:28:17 GMT
I just don't get why you are so opposed to the concept that maybe The Force let her exist in space a little longer than a normal human, and because of that, she was given the time to pull herself back onto the ship. It's not like she took a stroll, or flew across a mile of open space to take on Snoke's ship. She just didn't die immediately. She was starting to frost over, any more time and she would have died. Why are you so unbelievably against this as a simple concept that you are fighting so hard on numerous levels and threads? The force is idle unless used...so, why would she survive longer? She survived because it's Disney Magic now. nothing more. You can prescribe any explanation to it that you'd like, it doesn't matter, it's magic. It's all magic and it's boring. I disagree that it's idle. But whatever you want. |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Dec 20, 2017 21:32:45 GMT
Geez guys I've seen people without the Force survive longer than that in space in half a dozen other movies. Get over it. It's a movie.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Dec 20, 2017 21:48:07 GMT
Geez guys I've seen people without the Force survive longer than that in space in half a dozen other movies. Get over it. It's a movie. It is just a movie. But when people come on a message board and say - This is what I believe about the Force (or a character) and this is why I believe it. And nothing you say in contrast to it is credible. Oh, and stop complaining about it, even if your complaints aren't directed at me... If that's your position and you have a problem with people disputing you, maybe you shouldn't be on a forum. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 21:50:18 GMT
Geez guys I've seen people without the Force survive longer than that in space in half a dozen other movies. Get over it. It's a movie. Go watch your other fucking movies then. This is a Star Wars forum. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 21:53:36 GMT
In other words, there's no way you can prove me wrong. So all you can do in response is create a circle jerk argument. No you are too dumb to understand that none of us can prove the other wrong about a fictional galaxy. We can try for a while, but then it's time to just give up. You will not convince anyone and won't be convinced. So spare us, pleeeease. I'd stop calling people dumb, Little Miss "I Don't Remember Vader Killing Anyone Luke Loves." |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 22:00:17 GMT
My point is I'm going to take the opinion of THE GUY WHO CREATED THE FORCE as to what it can and cannot do... over some random forum poster's opinion of it. Which just goes back to what I said originally: Disney's version of the Force has more in common with the Disney magic that has appeared in the last 25 years of their animated films than it does with the Force of the first 6 Star Wars movies. But THE GUY WHO CREATED THE FORCE has also CHANGED THE FORCE SEVERAL TIMES HIMSELF (midichlorians anyone?).
I've said it before and I'll say it again: There is NO clear and defined set of rules of what the Force can and cannot do. In just about every movie there has been some force user who has exhibited some new ability for the first time. It has changed from film to film, even under Lucas himself. The better point to take from that video is that even Filoni argued the point with him. Lucas = not god. And now that SW is no longer his, its all open to even MORE interpretation.
As far as I'm concerned Leia used the force to survive the explosion and remained just conscious enough to continue using the force to save herself. Period. There aren't any huge leaps in logic that I have to take to buy that. Its the force, ie a sci-fi/star wars version of magic. Yep, I said it. The force has ALWAYS been nothing more than magic in a sci-fi setting, just as SW is nothing more than a fantasy in a sci-fi setting.
Now, was the Leia space scene shot in silly way? Yeah, she looked kinda doofy flying through space. They could'a executed it better. And if they had I'll bet anything we wouldn't even be talking about this.
Wrong. The nature of the Force - and its rules - have been consistent from OT through the PT. Only the ST has changed the rules. There is no difference whatsoever between the Force of the OT and the Force of the PT. The only thing that happened in the PT was that Lucas specifically defined for you the physics behind how sentients interact with the Force, whereas in the OT the interaction wasn't physically explained and was excepted as an unknown, metaphysical interaction of some kind. We went through this already, Lenlenlen1.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 22:07:36 GMT
<abbr></abbr>We went through this already, Lenlenlen1. Just joking, moron. Lulz, wut? |
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Post by mcufan on Dec 20, 2017 22:09:54 GMT
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Dec 20, 2017 22:12:16 GMT
The movie never implied that she used the force to survive in space. She only used the force to pull herself back into the ship before she died.
Someone might say she would have died (without the force)if it were actual space but I could make an endless list of things in Star Wars movies that would be different if they happened in the real universe. Her surviving for a few seconds in space is just one of many unrealistic things in these wonderful scifi fantasy movies.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 22:15:07 GMT
I only have one question: what was implied by the three asterisks? I'm dying to know. nothing it was a word. Slang for vagina, but the site censored it. Wow, I didn't think this site sensored anything. More importantly, did we just begin our Reylo moment? I think so. I'm a "monster" aren't I? And that makes you really angry, doesn't it? Hold on. Let me take off my shirt.... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 22:15:44 GMT
Ha, okay. <shrugs shoulders> |
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Post by Larcen26 on Dec 20, 2017 22:24:34 GMT
The movie never implied that she used the force to survive in space. She only used the force to pull herself back into the ship before she died. Someone might say she would have died (without the force)if it were actual space but I could make an endless list of things in Star Wars movies that would be different if they happened in the real universe. Her surviving for a few seconds in space is just one of many unrealistic things in these wonderful scifi fantasy movies. Exactly. Space in Star Wars doesn't always act like "real world" space...it is far less dangerous. |
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Post by Surly on Dec 20, 2017 22:29:57 GMT
In other words, there's no way you can prove me wrong. So all you can do in response is create a circle jerk argument. No you are too dumb to understand that none of us can prove the other wrong about a fictional galaxy. We can try for a while, but then it's time to just give up. You will not convince anyone and won't be convinced. So spare us, pleeeease. Only if you spare us of your belief in Mary Poppins Leia! |
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Post by mcufan on Dec 20, 2017 22:32:00 GMT
See, now that was funny.I actually chuckled. You're alright when you're not acting lick a total prick.A HA! We DID have a Reylo moment. What do you want to bet that's exactly what Rey will say to Kylo during the climax of Ep. IX? Pun intended. /starts unbuttoning shirt again, turns on a Lords of Acid cd two in a row. Well done... (Also what Rey will say to kylo) |
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Post by mcufan on Dec 20, 2017 22:36:02 GMT
No you are too dumb to understand that none of us can prove the other wrong about a fictional galaxy. We can try for a while, but then it's time to just give up. You will not convince anyone and won't be convinced. So spare us, pleeeease. Only if you spare us of your belief in Mary Poppins Leia! wait I've got a better one: I don't believe in you! Satisfied? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 22:40:33 GMT
A HA! We DID have a Reylo moment. What do you want to bet that's exactly what Rey will say to Kylo during the climax of Ep. IX? Pun intended. /starts unbuttoning shirt again, turns on a Lords of Acid cd two in a row. Well done... (Also what Rey will say to kylo) Just don't expect me to call you tomorrow. |
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Post by mcufan on Dec 20, 2017 22:47:40 GMT
two in a row. Well done... (Also what Rey will say to kylo) Just don't expect me to call you tomorrow. Ah, as if, as soon as we're done you're out the door so I can sleep kid. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 22:54:34 GMT
Just don't expect me to call you tomorrow. Ah, as if, as soon as we're done you're out the door so I can sleep kid. Sleep?  |
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Post by Surly on Dec 20, 2017 22:55:32 GMT
And yet you're the one who believes in her and defends her. LOL AhAhAhAh 😶 Okay. Just watch where you point those Force powered umbrellas! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 23:00:11 GMT
Okay. Just watch where you point those Force powered umbrellas! Watch it: that's my woman you're talking to. |
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