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Post by lenlenlen1 on Dec 21, 2017 15:18:02 GMT
But THE GUY WHO CREATED THE FORCE has also CHANGED THE FORCE SEVERAL TIMES HIMSELF (midichlorians anyone?).
I've said it before and I'll say it again: There is NO clear and defined set of rules of what the Force can and cannot do. In just about every movie there has been some force user who has exhibited some new ability for the first time. It has changed from film to film, even under Lucas himself. The better point to take from that video is that even Filoni argued the point with him. Lucas = not god. And now that SW is no longer his, its all open to even MORE interpretation.
As far as I'm concerned Leia used the force to survive the explosion and remained just conscious enough to continue using the force to save herself. Period. There aren't any huge leaps in logic that I have to take to buy that. Its the force, ie a sci-fi/star wars version of magic. Yep, I said it. The force has ALWAYS been nothing more than magic in a sci-fi setting, just as SW is nothing more than a fantasy in a sci-fi setting.
Now, was the Leia space scene shot in silly way? Yeah, she looked kinda doofy flying through space. They could'a executed it better. And if they had I'll bet anything we wouldn't even be talking about this.
Wrong. The nature of the Force - and its rules - have been consistent from OT through the PT. Only the ST has changed the rules. There is no difference whatsoever between the Force of the OT and the Force of the PT. The only thing that happened in the PT was that Lucas specifically defined for you the physics behind how sentients interact with the Force, whereas in the OT the interaction wasn't physically explained and was excepted as an unknown, metaphysical interaction of some kind. We went through this already, Lenlenlen1. So you're saying this statement is wrong: There is NO clear and defined set of rules of what the Force can and cannot do. In just about every movie there has been some force user who has exhibited some new ability for the first time. It has changed from film to film, even under Lucas himself.
And I'm saying this statement is wrong: The nature of the Force - and its rules - have been consistent from OT through the PT. Only the ST has changed the rules. There is no difference whatsoever between the Force of the OT and the Force of the PT.
I just don't see how you can say that the force was clearly defined in these movies when its not. I guess we just disagree.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 15:34:41 GMT
Wrong. The nature of the Force - and its rules - have been consistent from OT through the PT. Only the ST has changed the rules. There is no difference whatsoever between the Force of the OT and the Force of the PT. The only thing that happened in the PT was that Lucas specifically defined for you the physics behind how sentients interact with the Force, whereas in the OT the interaction wasn't physically explained and was excepted as an unknown, metaphysical interaction of some kind. We went through this already, Lenlenlen1. So you're saying this statement is wrong: There is NO clear and defined set of rules of what the Force can and cannot do. In just about every movie there has been some force user who has exhibited some new ability for the first time. It has changed from film to film, even under Lucas himself.
And I'm saying this statement is wrong: The nature of the Force - and its rules - have been consistent from OT through the PT. Only the ST has changed the rules. There is no difference whatsoever between the Force of the OT and the Force of the PT.
I just don't see how you can say that the force was clearly defined in these movies when its not. I guess we just disagree.
The bolded part I agree with. But I would maintain that the new abilities that appear in each new film all follow the same general guidelines for how sentient beings interact with the Force, which, inherently, puts certain limitations on how the Force can work. The very nature of that interaction seems to have evolved in the ST. So, if I'm supposed to suspend disbelief for a moment and accept that Leia woke up in space and consciously reached out to the Force, then I have no problem with that (except for how bad it looked visually of course). But that's not how it looked to me. Looked to me like the Force reached out to her and invigorated her. And that marks a seismic shift in the interaction between the Force and sentients. This, of course, occurred already with Rey in TFA, but I was willing to let it pass because I thought she was someone important. As I've posted before, the only time I can recall in canon or EU that the Force acted on its own was in the event where Plagueis' magical workings initially created the "imbalance in the Force" that the entire saga is plotted around, an event that also birthed Anakin Skywalker. This birth was a unique moment where the Force acted autonomously - as if it is itself a sentient being - to start the clock on re-balancing itself. Thus, since I thought Rey was someone extremely significant who was the final catalyst to re-balance the Force, then it at least followed some previous story arc/reasoning for doing so.
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Post by mcufan on Dec 21, 2017 16:20:38 GMT
So you're saying this statement is wrong: There is NO clear and defined set of rules of what the Force can and cannot do. In just about every movie there has been some force user who has exhibited some new ability for the first time. It has changed from film to film, even under Lucas himself.
And I'm saying this statement is wrong: The nature of the Force - and its rules - have been consistent from OT through the PT. Only the ST has changed the rules. There is no difference whatsoever between the Force of the OT and the Force of the PT.
I just don't see how you can say that the force was clearly defined in these movies when its not. I guess we just disagree.
The bolded part I agree with. But I would maintain that the new abilities that appear in each new film all follow the same general guidelines for how sentient beings interact with the Force, which, inherently, puts certain limitations on how the Force can work. The very nature of that interaction seems to have evolved in the ST. So, if I'm supposed to suspend disbelief for a moment and accept that Leia woke up in space and consciously reached out to the Force, then I have no problem with that (except for how bad it looked visually of course). But that's not how it looked to me. Looked to me like the Force reached out to her and invigorated her. And that marks a seismic shift in the interaction between the Force and sentients. This, of course, occurred already with Rey in TFA, but I was willing to let it pass because I thought she was someone important. As I've posted before, the only time I can recall in canon or EU that the Force acted on its own was in the event where Plagueis' magical workings initially created the "imbalance in the Force" that the entire saga is plotted around, an event that also birthed Anakin Skywalker. This birth was a unique moment where the Force acted autonomously - as if it is itself a sentient being - to start the clock on re-balancing itself. Thus, since I thought Rey was someone extremely significant who was the final catalyst to re-balance the Force, then it at least followed some previous story arc/reasoning for doing so. You're overthinking. Also the force has a will of it's own and three avatars in a couple of episodes of clone wars. I don't know if that counts.
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Post by mcufan on Dec 21, 2017 16:27:41 GMT
So you're saying this statement is wrong: There is NO clear and defined set of rules of what the Force can and cannot do. In just about every movie there has been some force user who has exhibited some new ability for the first time. It has changed from film to film, even under Lucas himself.
And I'm saying this statement is wrong: The nature of the Force - and its rules - have been consistent from OT through the PT. Only the ST has changed the rules. There is no difference whatsoever between the Force of the OT and the Force of the PT.
I just don't see how you can say that the force was clearly defined in these movies when its not. I guess we just disagree.
The bolded part I agree with. But I would maintain that the new abilities that appear in each new film all follow the same general guidelines for how sentient beings interact with the Force, which, inherently, puts certain limitations on how the Force can work. The very nature of that interaction seems to have evolved in the ST. So, if I'm supposed to suspend disbelief for a moment and accept that Leia woke up in space and consciously reached out to the Force, then I have no problem with that (except for how bad it looked visually of course). But that's not how it looked to me. Looked to me like the Force reached out to her and invigorated her. And that marks a seismic shift in the interaction between the Force and sentients. This, of course, occurred already with Rey in TFA, but I was willing to let it pass because I thought she was someone important. As I've posted before, the only time I can recall in canon or EU that the Force acted on its own was in the event where Plagueis' magical workings initially created the "imbalance in the Force" that the entire saga is plotted around, an event that also birthed Anakin Skywalker. This birth was a unique moment where the Force acted autonomously - as if it is itself a sentient being - to start the clock on re-balancing itself. Thus, since I thought Rey was someone extremely significant who was the final catalyst to re-balance the Force, then it at least followed some previous story arc/reasoning for doing so. And then there's these immortal words: Ben Kenobi: Remember, a Jedi can feel the Force flowing through him. Luke Skywalker: You mean it controls your actions? Kenobi: Partially, but it also obeys your commands. Controlling ones actions implies some kind of sentience, unless obi-wan lied, again...
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Post by Larcen26 on Dec 21, 2017 16:28:08 GMT
So you're saying this statement is wrong: There is NO clear and defined set of rules of what the Force can and cannot do. In just about every movie there has been some force user who has exhibited some new ability for the first time. It has changed from film to film, even under Lucas himself.
And I'm saying this statement is wrong: The nature of the Force - and its rules - have been consistent from OT through the PT. Only the ST has changed the rules. There is no difference whatsoever between the Force of the OT and the Force of the PT.
I just don't see how you can say that the force was clearly defined in these movies when its not. I guess we just disagree.
The bolded part I agree with. But I would maintain that the new abilities that appear in each new film all follow the same general guidelines for how sentient beings interact with the Force, which, inherently, puts certain limitations on how the Force can work. The very nature of that interaction seems to have evolved in the ST. So, if I'm supposed to suspend disbelief for a moment and accept that Leia woke up in space and consciously reached out to the Force, then I have no problem with that (except for how bad it looked visually of course). But that's not how it looked to me. Looked to me like the Force reached out to her and invigorated her. And that marks a seismic shift in the interaction between the Force and sentients. This, of course, occurred already with Rey in TFA, but I was willing to let it pass because I thought she was someone important. As I've posted before, the only time I can recall in canon or EU that the Force acted on its own was in the event where Plagueis' magical workings initially created the "imbalance in the Force" that the entire saga is plotted around, an event that also birthed Anakin Skywalker. This birth was a unique moment where the Force acted autonomously - as if it is itself a sentient being - to start the clock on re-balancing itself. Thus, since I thought Rey was someone extremely significant who was the final catalyst to re-balance the Force, then it at least followed some previous story arc/reasoning for doing so. But I would argue that Anakin being conceived contradicts the idea that The Force has no power when it's not directly controlled or impacted by a sentient being. Even if it's not The Force having a will of it's own, which I don't think it has...The Force/Midi-chlorians/whatever do things without direct control by a sentient being.
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Post by mcufan on Dec 21, 2017 16:45:09 GMT
The bolded part I agree with. But I would maintain that the new abilities that appear in each new film all follow the same general guidelines for how sentient beings interact with the Force, which, inherently, puts certain limitations on how the Force can work. The very nature of that interaction seems to have evolved in the ST. So, if I'm supposed to suspend disbelief for a moment and accept that Leia woke up in space and consciously reached out to the Force, then I have no problem with that (except for how bad it looked visually of course). But that's not how it looked to me. Looked to me like the Force reached out to her and invigorated her. And that marks a seismic shift in the interaction between the Force and sentients. This, of course, occurred already with Rey in TFA, but I was willing to let it pass because I thought she was someone important. As I've posted before, the only time I can recall in canon or EU that the Force acted on its own was in the event where Plagueis' magical workings initially created the "imbalance in the Force" that the entire saga is plotted around, an event that also birthed Anakin Skywalker. This birth was a unique moment where the Force acted autonomously - as if it is itself a sentient being - to start the clock on re-balancing itself. Thus, since I thought Rey was someone extremely significant who was the final catalyst to re-balance the Force, then it at least followed some previous story arc/reasoning for doing so. But I would argue that Anakin being conceived contradicts the idea that The Force has no power when it's not directly controlled or impacted by a sentient being. Even if it's not The Force having a will of it's own, which I don't think it has...The Force/Midi-chlorians/whatever do things without direct control by a sentient being. Read my post about obi-wan right before this one. Now, does the person have to be conscious to the force to work? Even with a will of it's own?
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Post by Larcen26 on Dec 21, 2017 16:53:38 GMT
But I would argue that Anakin being conceived contradicts the idea that The Force has no power when it's not directly controlled or impacted by a sentient being. Even if it's not The Force having a will of it's own, which I don't think it has...The Force/Midi-chlorians/whatever do things without direct control by a sentient being. Read my post about obi-wan right before this one. Now, does the person have to be conscious to the force to work? Even with a will of it's own? I'm with you. But I am in a middle ground where I'm OK if the force has no will of it's own...but it can still impact living beings in more passive ways if they are force sensitive. So as I have said before, the Force gave her resilience, she woke up in space, then used the Force to pull herself to the ship. I don't think The Force willed itself to wake her.
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Post by mcufan on Dec 21, 2017 16:57:55 GMT
Read my post about obi-wan right before this one. Now, does the person have to be conscious to the force to work? Even with a will of it's own? I'm with you. But I am in a middle ground where I'm OK if the force has no will of it's own...but it can still impact living beings in more passive ways if they are force sensitive. So as I have said before, the Force gave her resilience, she woke up in space, then used the Force to pull herself to the ship. I don't think The Force willed itself to wake her. There is a simple explanation: Right before the bridge blew up, Leia sensed it (we see it in her face) and used the force to protect her body, like a jedi transe.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 17:00:09 GMT
The bolded part I agree with. But I would maintain that the new abilities that appear in each new film all follow the same general guidelines for how sentient beings interact with the Force, which, inherently, puts certain limitations on how the Force can work. The very nature of that interaction seems to have evolved in the ST. So, if I'm supposed to suspend disbelief for a moment and accept that Leia woke up in space and consciously reached out to the Force, then I have no problem with that (except for how bad it looked visually of course). But that's not how it looked to me. Looked to me like the Force reached out to her and invigorated her. And that marks a seismic shift in the interaction between the Force and sentients. This, of course, occurred already with Rey in TFA, but I was willing to let it pass because I thought she was someone important. As I've posted before, the only time I can recall in canon or EU that the Force acted on its own was in the event where Plagueis' magical workings initially created the "imbalance in the Force" that the entire saga is plotted around, an event that also birthed Anakin Skywalker. This birth was a unique moment where the Force acted autonomously - as if it is itself a sentient being - to start the clock on re-balancing itself. Thus, since I thought Rey was someone extremely significant who was the final catalyst to re-balance the Force, then it at least followed some previous story arc/reasoning for doing so. You're overthinking. Also the force has a will of it's own and three avatars in a couple of episodes of clone wars. I don't know if that counts. I'm aware of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost routine. I didn't interpret the Father as being The Force itself. I could see it if all three combined were supposed to represent the Force as a unit.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 17:01:26 GMT
The bolded part I agree with. But I would maintain that the new abilities that appear in each new film all follow the same general guidelines for how sentient beings interact with the Force, which, inherently, puts certain limitations on how the Force can work. The very nature of that interaction seems to have evolved in the ST. So, if I'm supposed to suspend disbelief for a moment and accept that Leia woke up in space and consciously reached out to the Force, then I have no problem with that (except for how bad it looked visually of course). But that's not how it looked to me. Looked to me like the Force reached out to her and invigorated her. And that marks a seismic shift in the interaction between the Force and sentients. This, of course, occurred already with Rey in TFA, but I was willing to let it pass because I thought she was someone important. As I've posted before, the only time I can recall in canon or EU that the Force acted on its own was in the event where Plagueis' magical workings initially created the "imbalance in the Force" that the entire saga is plotted around, an event that also birthed Anakin Skywalker. This birth was a unique moment where the Force acted autonomously - as if it is itself a sentient being - to start the clock on re-balancing itself. Thus, since I thought Rey was someone extremely significant who was the final catalyst to re-balance the Force, then it at least followed some previous story arc/reasoning for doing so. And then there's these immortal words: Ben Kenobi: Remember, a Jedi can feel the Force flowing through him. Luke Skywalker: You mean it controls your actions? Kenobi: Partially, but it also obeys your commands. Controlling ones actions implies some kind of sentience, unless obi-wan lied, again... I'm not arguing against the idea of the Force having sentience...
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Post by mcufan on Dec 21, 2017 17:01:51 GMT
You're overthinking. Also the force has a will of it's own and three avatars in a couple of episodes of clone wars. I don't know if that counts. I'm aware of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost routine. I didn't interpret the Father as being The Force itself. I could see it if all three combined were supposed to represent the Force as a unit. Sure dark , light etc, but with will and setience for sure.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Dec 21, 2017 17:01:54 GMT
So you're saying this statement is wrong: There is NO clear and defined set of rules of what the Force can and cannot do. In just about every movie there has been some force user who has exhibited some new ability for the first time. It has changed from film to film, even under Lucas himself.
And I'm saying this statement is wrong: The nature of the Force - and its rules - have been consistent from OT through the PT. Only the ST has changed the rules. There is no difference whatsoever between the Force of the OT and the Force of the PT.
I just don't see how you can say that the force was clearly defined in these movies when its not. I guess we just disagree.
The bolded part I agree with. But I would maintain that the new abilities that appear in each new film all follow the same general guidelines for how sentient beings interact with the Force, which, inherently, puts certain limitations on how the Force can work. The very nature of that interaction seems to have evolved in the ST. So, if I'm supposed to suspend disbelief for a moment and accept that Leia woke up in space and consciously reached out to the Force, then I have no problem with that (except for how bad it looked visually of course). But that's not how it looked to me. Looked to me like the Force reached out to her and invigorated her. And that marks a seismic shift in the interaction between the Force and sentients. This, of course, occurred already with Rey in TFA, but I was willing to let it pass because I thought she was someone important. As I've posted before, the only time I can recall in canon or EU that the Force acted on its own was in the event where Plagueis' magical workings initially created the "imbalance in the Force" that the entire saga is plotted around, an event that also birthed Anakin Skywalker. This birth was a unique moment where the Force acted autonomously - as if it is itself a sentient being - to start the clock on re-balancing itself. Thus, since I thought Rey was someone extremely significant who was the final catalyst to re-balance the Force, then it at least followed some previous story arc/reasoning for doing so. As to the force acting on its own: That's the part where things gets quasi-mystical, pseudo religious, even philosophical. And its the only area in which I accept the term "from a certain point of view", which I usually think of as BS.
One way of thinking is that everything is done by the force so its no mystery that it would help Leia, its more a matter of perspective or faith. Like when people say "god works in mysterious ways". Or like when two people are in a car accident and one dies and the other comes out without a scratch. Is it a miracle or is it the air bag?
I'm not saying I buy into that particular view, but for the sake of the drama of the movie, I can buy that she used the force to save herself/the force saved her. For me its just not something that deviates so drastically and so greatly that I cant suspend my disbelief long enough to move on to the next scene.
She survives, and we know its because of the force. Period. Moving on.
The issues I have with the movie are more thematic. Luke needed to be respected more as a character of significance to this franchise, and the OT heroes didn't need to be destroyed in order to up-lift the new heroes. Also, you don't make a sequel to a movie that sets up a lot of questions and then not give us ANY of the answers. All it had to do was throw us a few bones. Not all of them; just a few. But it did none of that. Issues like that are more grievous (see what I did there?) than how hokey looking Leia looked while flying through space.
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Post by mcufan on Dec 21, 2017 17:04:36 GMT
The bolded part I agree with. But I would maintain that the new abilities that appear in each new film all follow the same general guidelines for how sentient beings interact with the Force, which, inherently, puts certain limitations on how the Force can work. The very nature of that interaction seems to have evolved in the ST. So, if I'm supposed to suspend disbelief for a moment and accept that Leia woke up in space and consciously reached out to the Force, then I have no problem with that (except for how bad it looked visually of course). But that's not how it looked to me. Looked to me like the Force reached out to her and invigorated her. And that marks a seismic shift in the interaction between the Force and sentients. This, of course, occurred already with Rey in TFA, but I was willing to let it pass because I thought she was someone important. As I've posted before, the only time I can recall in canon or EU that the Force acted on its own was in the event where Plagueis' magical workings initially created the "imbalance in the Force" that the entire saga is plotted around, an event that also birthed Anakin Skywalker. This birth was a unique moment where the Force acted autonomously - as if it is itself a sentient being - to start the clock on re-balancing itself. Thus, since I thought Rey was someone extremely significant who was the final catalyst to re-balance the Force, then it at least followed some previous story arc/reasoning for doing so. As to the force acting on its own: That's the part where things gets quasi-mystical, pseudo religious, even philosophical. And its the only area in which I accept the term "from a certain point of view", which I usually think of as BS.
One way of thinking is that everything is done by the force so its no mystery that it would help Leia, its more a matter of perspective or faith. Like when people say "god works in mysterious ways". Or like when two people are in a car accident and one dies and the other comes out without a scratch. Is it a miracle or is it the air bag?
I'm not saying I buy into that particular view, but for the sake of the drama of the movie, I can buy that she used the force to save herself/the force saved her. For me its just not something that deviates so drastically and so greatly that I cant suspend my disbelief long enough to move on to the next scene.
She survives, and we know its because of the force. Period. Moving on.
The issues I have with the movie are more thematic. Luke needed to be respected more as a character of significance to this franchise, and the OT heroes didn't need to be destroyed in order to up-lift the new heroes. Also, you don't make a sequel to a movie that sets up a lot of questions and then not give us ANY of the answers. All it had to do was throw us a few bones. Not all of them; just a few. But it did none of that. Issues like that are more grievous (see what I did there?) than how hokey looking Leia looked while flying through space.
I think she saved herself from the beggining. see my previous post.Edit: here it is :There is a simple explanation: Right before the bridge blew up, Leia sensed it (we see it in her face) and used the force to protect her body, like a jedi transe.
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 21, 2017 17:04:44 GMT
I know there were a few gasps of surprise and incredulity when Leia flew. I remember hearing a guy exclaim "What the hell???" and another go "Oh come on!!"
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Post by mcufan on Dec 21, 2017 17:06:57 GMT
I know there were a few gasps of surprise and incredulity when Leia flew. I remember hearing a guy exclaim "What the hell???" and another go "Oh come on!!" You don't fly in space, you float... With STYYYLE
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Post by Larcen26 on Dec 21, 2017 17:07:21 GMT
I'm with you. But I am in a middle ground where I'm OK if the force has no will of it's own...but it can still impact living beings in more passive ways if they are force sensitive. So as I have said before, the Force gave her resilience, she woke up in space, then used the Force to pull herself to the ship. I don't think The Force willed itself to wake her. There is a simple explanation: Right before the bridge blew up, Leia sensed it (we see it in her face) and used the force to protect her body, like a jedi transe. Not my preferred explanation, because she hasn't really showed much active control over the force but I can buy it. I like the idea that in the extreme circumstance her connection to the Force saved her, both in allowing her to survive longer in space, and tap into whatever control she may have had to pull herself in. Like a mom lifting a car off her baby.
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Post by mcufan on Dec 21, 2017 17:09:33 GMT
There is a simple explanation: Right before the bridge blew up, Leia sensed it (we see it in her face) and used the force to protect her body, like a jedi transe. Not my preferred explanation, because she hasn't really showed much active control over the force but I can buy it. I like the idea that in the extreme circumstance her connection to the Force saved her, both in allowing her to survive longer in space, and tap into whatever control she may have had to pull herself in. Like a mom lifting a car off her baby. Yes, and at least she sensed it, thats in the movie. I have a hmmm shall we say questionable source to confirm this things. If you know what i mean...
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Post by Larcen26 on Dec 21, 2017 17:15:20 GMT
Not my preferred explanation, because she hasn't really showed much active control over the force but I can buy it. I like the idea that in the extreme circumstance her connection to the Force saved her, both in allowing her to survive longer in space, and tap into whatever control she may have had to pull herself in. Like a mom lifting a car off her baby. Yes, and at least she sensed it, thats in the movie. I have a hmmm shall we say questionable source to confirm this things. If you know what i mean...I don't at all... But you do you.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Dec 21, 2017 17:24:59 GMT
As to the force acting on its own: That's the part where things gets quasi-mystical, pseudo religious, even philosophical. And its the only area in which I accept the term "from a certain point of view", which I usually think of as BS.
One way of thinking is that everything is done by the force so its no mystery that it would help Leia, its more a matter of perspective or faith. Like when people say "god works in mysterious ways". Or like when two people are in a car accident and one dies and the other comes out without a scratch. Is it a miracle or is it the air bag?
I'm not saying I buy into that particular view, but for the sake of the drama of the movie, I can buy that she used the force to save herself/the force saved her. For me its just not something that deviates so drastically and so greatly that I cant suspend my disbelief long enough to move on to the next scene.
She survives, and we know its because of the force. Period. Moving on.
The issues I have with the movie are more thematic. Luke needed to be respected more as a character of significance to this franchise, and the OT heroes didn't need to be destroyed in order to up-lift the new heroes. Also, you don't make a sequel to a movie that sets up a lot of questions and then not give us ANY of the answers. All it had to do was throw us a few bones. Not all of them; just a few. But it did none of that. Issues like that are more grievous (see what I did there?) than how hokey looking Leia looked while flying through space.
I think she saved herself from the beggining. see my previous post.Edit: here it is :There is a simple explanation: Right before the bridge blew up, Leia sensed it (we see it in her face) and used the force to protect her body, like a jedi transe. ^^^this^^^ simple. no problem. Next!
(omg, I'm agreeing with an mcu fan, will wonders never cease?)
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Post by Larcen26 on Dec 21, 2017 17:30:38 GMT
I think she saved herself from the beggining. see my previous post.Edit: here it is :There is a simple explanation: Right before the bridge blew up, Leia sensed it (we see it in her face) and used the force to protect her body, like a jedi transe. ^^^this^^^ simple. no problem. Next!
(omg, I'm agreeing with an mcu fan, will wonders never cease?)
I really liked the movie... But I can understand 99% of people's issues with it, even if I don't share them. This is the only criticism of the movie that I will actively argue about. I won't even debate that some think she looked silly...again, I don't agree, but I can't deny a little Mary Poppins in there... But the idea that either she couldn't have done it, or that somehow she didn't do anything and The Force did it by itself? Just a dumb argument.
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