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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 12, 2018 1:08:38 GMT
It’s Too Late Now For A Black Widow Moviethe interest in the character’s solo movie has somewhat diminished over the years. While there is undoubtedly still interest in a Black Widow movie, interest was at its peak immediately following The Avengers, since that was truly the character’s breakout role in the MCU. It doesn’t help that fans were deeply critical of the character’s arc in Avengers: Age of Ultron, which veered from the comics and established a romantic relationship between Nat and Bruce Banner. Although the character may be course corrected in Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers 4, Age of Ultron seemed to diminish interest in a Black Widow movie.
On a larger scale looking at the current landscape of superhero movies, a Black Widow film isn’t quite as revolutionary in terms of diverse representation as it was in 2010 or 2012. With Warner Bros. and DC Films’ Wonder Woman paving the way for female-led superhero films in the genre’s latest resurgence, and a number of shows in the realm of TV (including DCTV’s Supergirl as well as Marvel’s own Agent Carter and Jessica Jones), there are more stories focusing women in comic book adaptations now than when Black Widow was introduced to the MCU.
Certainly, Marvel Studios’ seemingly lack of dedication to female-led stories has been a point of contention among fans for years. It will have taken the MCU 10 years to have a female character co-headline a movie (arriving this year with Peyton Reed’s Ant-Man and the Wasp) and 11 for a solo female-led film when Captain Marvel hits theaters in 2019. Over the years, Feige has attributed the lack of female-led films in the MCU to “timing”, and has pointed to Black Widow’s roles in other movies as evidence that the studio isn’t completely avoiding female characters. But if Marvel has had an extensive plan for the MCU since day one – or even since 2014 – the studio’s lack of female-led solo movies on its slate (just one in 10 years) indicates films led by women haven’t been a priority.
Now that Marvel has finally announced the Black Widow movie – even though they recruited a female screenwriter – it feels like too little, too late. . . . it’s difficult to ignore that fans haven’t been clamoring for a Black Widow movie quite as much as just after The Avengers. And, with new fan-favorite characters like Thompson’s Valkyrie joining the MCU, Marvel missed the boat on its Black Widow movie.
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Post by RedDeadFallout on Jan 12, 2018 1:32:35 GMT
Have you told Marvel this though? Because you know no one here can really do anything about it.
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Post by spooner5020 on Jan 12, 2018 1:37:09 GMT
Like it was too late to do a solo Black Panther movie? Dude just stop.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 12, 2018 1:42:50 GMT
It's not too late, its never too late!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2018 1:55:15 GMT
It's not too late, its never too late! Three Days Grace?
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 12, 2018 1:58:20 GMT
It's not too late, its never too late! Three Days Grace? Yep!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2018 2:01:08 GMT
Hell yeah. I've been on a TDG listening kick lately. What's your favorite song from them?
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 12, 2018 2:04:44 GMT
Hell yeah. I've been on a TDG listening kick lately. What's your favorite song from them? Probably a weird pick but "One-X" . Infact One-X is my favorite Three Days Grace album!
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Post by raiderjedi on Jan 12, 2018 2:13:59 GMT
I've figured a name for your posts. Passive aggressive trolling, and you have it mastered. Just "innocuous" enough to claim that you mean no disrespect or harm (your conviction of Stan Lee as sex offender notwithstanding). Even this article, you conveniently leave out any positive words about MCU in your cut and paste job:
"If Marvel Studios’ track record is any indication, the movie will likely be a critical and financial success. Certainly, both Johansson and Black Widow are well known enough by casual audiences that the film will be a hit at the box office, and Marvel’s movies have continually been praised by critics. Plus, for those fans who have wanted a Black Widow movie since her debut in Iron Man 2, news of Marvel finally moving forward on the project is no doubt exciting."
And you ignore the multiple articles that even I have seen praising Marvel about the news of a Black Widow movie. But like I said. You have trolling down to an art form. And with audiences' general disapproval with the majority of the DCEU, perhaps you somehow think that you will help bring down the MCU? Because i can tell you bub, there's no stopping that train. Marvel is set to dominate 2018. And there is nothing anyone like you or the Dennis Reynolds of the world can do about it. Carry on. I look forward to your next "completely innocent non troll post".
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Post by politicidal on Jan 12, 2018 2:24:36 GMT
For any reason on the socio-cultural level, perhaps. But I'll take it regardless.
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Post by scabab on Jan 12, 2018 11:02:26 GMT
It probably should have come out much earlier. There's been several movies already with Black Widow in it and she's probably at the tail end of the contract.
So yeah I find it odd that they'd make it at this point. I'll still see it of course but I can't say I'd be as interested in this one.
Seeing as she doesn't have any powers though it might be a bit different.
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Post by charzhino on Jan 12, 2018 11:07:58 GMT
It would suck big time as a movie. She has no superpowers and is surrounded by people who do. I would rather watch a Hawkeye movie but they're only pushing this because of political and social influence to have a "strong" female character after they already butchered Black Widow in Age of Ultron making her a petty love interest for Banner and being called a monster because she cant have children.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 12, 2018 11:24:42 GMT
It probably should have come out much earlier. There's been several movies already with Black Widow in it and she's probably at the tail end of the contract. So yeah I find it odd that they'd make it at this point. Kevin Fiege is only making a Black Widow movie now because Wonder Woman proved that female-led superhero movies can be successful. But after seeing Wonder Woman, most people won't care about seeing a Black Widow movie.
It's similar to how Joe DiMaggio (who was 41 years old when he and Marilyn Monroe were divorced) lived until he was 84 years old but never re-married after he and Marilyn were divorced. And similarly with Prince Rainier, he never re-married after Grace Kelly's death. When you've been married to Grace Kelly or Marilyn Monroe, no other woman could live up to those standards.
Likewise, when people have seen Wonder Woman, no other female-led superhero movie can live up to that standard, especially not a Black Widow movie.
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Post by scabab on Jan 12, 2018 11:51:58 GMT
Kevin Fiege is only making a Black Widow movie now because Wonder Woman proved that female-led superhero movies can be successful. But after seeing Wonder Woman, most people won't care about seeing a Black Widow movie. There's nothing to suggest that and you could go round in circles by saying that Wonder Woman only got made because of the DCEU which was only made after the MCU proved successful. Either way it would only turn the thread into yet another Marvel vs DC mud slinging argument and we've had enough of those surely.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 12, 2018 12:00:58 GMT
and being called a monster because She was brainwashed by the Red Room into being a child soldier whose killed tons of people. Why does everyone assume it's due to the sterility thing?
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 12, 2018 12:01:57 GMT
It probably should have come out much earlier. There's been several movies already with Black Widow in it and she's probably at the tail end of the contract. So yeah I find it odd that they'd make it at this point. Kevin Fiege is only making a Black Widow movie now because Ike Perlmutter is out of the way and not blocking him from making female led films anymore. DC had no excuse and nothing holding them back, yet they waited 40 years to make WW.
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Post by sostie on Jan 12, 2018 12:21:40 GMT
76 years for Wonder Woman to to get a solo big screen outing. Under 60 for Black Widow (and 45 to appear on the big screen compared to WW's 75). Yet not hearing anyone say it was too late for WW!
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Post by RedDeadFallout on Jan 12, 2018 12:55:19 GMT
It probably should have come out much earlier. There's been several movies already with Black Widow in it and she's probably at the tail end of the contract. So yeah I find it odd that they'd make it at this point. Kevin Fiege is only making a Black Widow movie now because Wonder Woman proved that female-led superhero movies can be successful. But after seeing Wonder Woman, most people won't care about seeing a Black Widow movie.
It's similar to how Joe DiMaggio (who was 41 years old when he and Marilyn Monroe were divorced) lived until he was 84 years old but never re-married after he and Marilyn were divorced. And similarly with Prince Rainier, he never re-married after Grace Kelly's death. When you've been married to Grace Kelly or Marilyn Monroe, no other woman could live up to those standards.
Likewise, when people have seen Wonder Woman, no other female-led superhero movie can live up to that standard, especially not a Black Widow movie.
That's incredibly misogynist. Aren't you supposed to pretend to be better than Marvel fans?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2018 18:12:19 GMT
It probably should have come out much earlier. There's been several movies already with Black Widow in it and she's probably at the tail end of the contract. So yeah I find it odd that they'd make it at this point. Kevin Fiege is only making a Black Widow movie now because Wonder Woman proved that female-led superhero movies can be successful. But after seeing Wonder Woman, most people won't care about seeing a Black Widow movie.
It's similar to how Joe DiMaggio (who was 41 years old when he and Marilyn Monroe were divorced) lived until he was 84 years old but never re-married after he and Marilyn were divorced. And similarly with Prince Rainier, he never re-married after Grace Kelly's death. When you've been married to Grace Kelly or Marilyn Monroe, no other woman could live up to those standards.
Likewise, when people have seen Wonder Woman, no other female-led superhero movie can live up to that standard, especially not a Black Widow movie.
This is the most stupid thing you ever wrote. Especially since WW was a very mediocre film full of plotholes with the weakest villain of superheromovies in 2017. Just because it isnt a shitty movie doesnt make it good. And you have no right to talk about women anyway since you glorify the sexual harrasment of one in the Stan Lee case. You are a despicable human being and the worst troll to these boards and you should be banned. If only we had a mod with balls. Oh yeah, how about Batman being a murdering coward by shooting people in the back from a distance. Just like what happened in Las Vegas. DC really inspired that guy.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 12, 2018 19:00:42 GMT
and being called a monster because She was brainwashed by the Red Room into being a child soldier whose killed tons of people. Why does everyone assume it's due to the sterility thing? Because she was talking about not being able to have children when she called herself a monster. So obviously that's what she was referring to. Either that or it was just bad writing.
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