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Post by Nicko's Nose on Feb 13, 2018 7:49:58 GMT
They love to hate MCU that’s for sure.
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Post by summers8 on Feb 13, 2018 8:14:37 GMT
They love to hate MCU that’s for sure. Because mcu movies are destroying cinema and are harming the genre. funny, you keep calling us hateful but what we are saying is true, we even prove it with mcu own words. you people are the haters for maliciously telling lies all the time to defend MCU bs. If mcu is so good, why do you folks always have to LIE and call it hate when we say the truth. |
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Post by Vassaggo on Feb 13, 2018 8:46:59 GMT
They love to hate MCU that’s for sure. Because mcu movies are destroying cinema and are harming the genre. funny, you keep calling us hateful but what we are saying is true, we even prove it with mcu own words. you people are the haters for maliciously telling lies all the time to defend MCU bs. If mcu is so good, why do you folks always have to LIE and call it hate when we say the truth. If it's your opinion that a Franchise who found away to capture the lion share of the market is detrimental then that's your opinion. The only thing I know is I've seen almost every comic book movie in theater since Superman 2. (i know i missed Supergirl and I think one other) for the last 20 years or so a group of about 13 of us would be there opening night. Thursday or more likely Friday. For the first time in 20 years I have to answer the question is this DC or Marvel. The 13 of us are fairly nerdy, but not in the same way. (Everyone has their own vice be it Magic the Gathering, Pokemon, D&D, Star Wars, Star Trek, etc etc) So now the non comic book guys (and 2 girls) ask if it's DC or Marvel (they don't even get the difference of Marvel Fox movie or Marvel Studios movie) If it's DCEU they don't go. They gave up after BvS. It took 3 weeks in theater, positive word of mouth, and me seeing then reporting back to get them to go to Wonder Woman. I couldn't get them to Suicide Squad or Justice League. This is all anecdotal and just my own experience so take it with a grain of salt. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Feb 13, 2018 9:13:04 GMT
Because mcu movies are destroying cinema and are harming the genre. funny, you keep calling us hateful but what we are saying is true, we even prove it with mcu own words. you people are the haters for maliciously telling lies all the time to defend MCU bs. If mcu is so good, why do you folks always have to LIE and call it hate when we say the truth. If it's your opinion that a Franchise who found away to capture the lion share of the market is detrimental then that's your opinion. The only thing I know is I've seen almost every comic book movie in theater since Superman 2. (i know i missed Supergirl and I think one other) for the last 20 years or so a group of about 13 of us would be there opening night. Thursday or more likely Friday. For the first time in 20 years I have to answer the question is this DC or Marvel. The 13 of us are fairly nerdy, but not in the same way. (Everyone has their own vice be it Magic the Gathering, Pokemon, D&D, Star Wars, Star Trek, etc etc) So now the non comic book guys (and 2 girls) ask if it's DC or Marvel (they don't even get the difference of Marvel Fox movie or Marvel Studios movie) If it's DCEU they don't go. They gave up after BvS. It took 3 weeks in theater, positive word of mouth, and me seeing then reporting back to get them to go to Wonder Woman. I couldn't get them to Suicide Squad or Justice League. This is all anecdotal and just my own experience so take it with a grain of salt. it is anecdotal indeed dude. Engaging in the same fallacy: l could not bring my GFs (all academics like me) to watch MCU, I forced them to watch the Racocon Turd Vol2 one for fun and shock value and they were truly stunned how childish and juvenile it was. The only CBM they liked (on some level) was Nolan and WW and those were WW was in.
But generally speaking DCEU is surely an acquired taste, not as mass and children appealing as MCU, it's more artsy, grittier, gloomier and has philosophical undertones. You do not get 8 year olds and people of that intelligence age into that kind of stuff, they want Transformers, formula and 'splosions like MCU provides .
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Post by Vassaggo on Feb 13, 2018 9:28:18 GMT
If it's your opinion that a Franchise who found away to capture the lion share of the market is detrimental then that's your opinion. The only thing I know is I've seen almost every comic book movie in theater since Superman 2. (i know i missed Supergirl and I think one other) for the last 20 years or so a group of about 13 of us would be there opening night. Thursday or more likely Friday. For the first time in 20 years I have to answer the question is this DC or Marvel. The 13 of us are fairly nerdy, but not in the same way. (Everyone has their own vice be it Magic the Gathering, Pokemon, D&D, Star Wars, Star Trek, etc etc) So now the non comic book guys (and 2 girls) ask if it's DC or Marvel (they don't even get the difference of Marvel Fox movie or Marvel Studios movie) If it's DCEU they don't go. They gave up after BvS. It took 3 weeks in theater, positive word of mouth, and me seeing then reporting back to get them to go to Wonder Woman. I couldn't get them to Suicide Squad or Justice League. This is all anecdotal and just my own experience so take it with a grain of salt. it is anecdotal indeed dude. Engaging in the same fallacy: l could not bring my GFs (all academics like me) to watch MCU, I forced them to watch the Racocon Turd Vol2 one for fun and shock value and they were truly stunned how childish and juvenile it was. The only CBM they liked (on some level) was Nolan and WW and those were WW was in.
But generally speaking DCEU is surely an acquired taste, not as mass and children appealing as MCU, it's more artsy, grittier, gloomier and has philosophical undertones. You do not get 8 year olds and people of that intelligence age into that kind of stuff, they want Transformers, formula and 'splosions like MCU provides .
Well considering 8 of us met at College in the 90's. The others just kinda added to the group over time. All of us have undergraduate degrees, 2 have Masters, and one has a Doctorate in Law (The show off of the group. Undergrad in Accounting, MBA, Doctorate in Law, and the little shit passed CPA on his first try). I would say our group is pretty heady. Funny that I have several nieces and nephews and they love the dark and grittier DCEU. Now they are all brooding teenagers so I get their love of it. I get that my own personal experience isn't true for anybody but me. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Feb 13, 2018 9:30:45 GMT
Sorry if my contribution to the topic at hand seems a bit lazy or anything but serious question - Do summers8, Tristan, and DC-Fan have actual social lives? They spend the vast majority of their time trashing the MCU and its fan base and go nuts with the emoticons and exclamation points like they're hyped up on sugar. I always admired the depth and accuracy of your adhom deflections. When the argument is lost insult becomes thd tool of the loser (Sokrates).
May I in return finally dare to inquire about a grown-up who spends his time online salivating about movies intended for an emotional- and intelligence age of 8 year old boys (mighty beefcakes in tights), and who gets utterly butt sore when the flaws are dissected?
How does this agree with your social life, may be difficult to be taken seriously by others, especially by women I imaging. Or do you keep the whiny fanboy in the closet? Might explain it.
Of course that's only my perception, maybe in your resident milieu the lowly basement-dwelling MCU nerd is regarded as a sex symbol and go-getter? Kewl for you if so. To the next MCU marathon and beyond!
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Post by charzhino on Feb 13, 2018 10:14:18 GMT
Or they don't spend the whole movie on a subject that isn't important to the movie. They bring it up, they tell you how they feel about it and move on. Civil war was meant to be about the accords and Tonys/Cap differences in ideologies yet we only got a brief peek into both sides of their argument. Look you're free to think the MCUs policy of "briefly touch upon then quickly move on" is suitable but I just don't get why you guys are satisfied with that and dont want more than the bare minimum, I really dont. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 13, 2018 12:32:05 GMT
Um, mcu fans struggle to accept depth since their movies have none. No, they just don't take the lazy way out the way the FoX-Men films do and have stuff like "Waaah, my family was killed by Nazis!" No, they just believe in making movies about the hero instead of the villain. Because they have faith in their heroes, FoX-men doesn't. Actually, they do. They don't feel the need to have the same arguments over and over. No they aren't. Their relationship is quite superficial. No, it's the film being pretentious. Again. No one. It's faithful to its source comic. No, it took lessons from itself. Yes, we're much less ashamed. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 13, 2018 12:33:22 GMT
Oh and speaking of The great Tarantino. here is a Tarantino like scene in xmen first class. That stupidity of Magneto killing Nazis? That's a childs' idea of depth. He killed Nazis, that's all. So you're ashamed of comics. We get that. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 13, 2018 12:35:29 GMT
see reason. we are not haters. mcu movies are bad for films. He only said that to stick up for his son Max, who writes for DC. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 13, 2018 12:36:41 GMT
That clip blends 2 tones perfectly. Starting out with jokes and levity but then transitioning to a serious tone when it requires and staying that way. I can only wish the Disney Xmen can keep this setup but im not going to hold my breath. true, look at another similar scene here from TDKR Both xavier and bruce are depressed but the other characters do give a good balance with some jokes but still get serious. mcu is .......well, they just ban everything for children. its gross. No, the MCU simply has proactive heroes who don't let stuff get them down. This scenes shows Bruce being forced into doing stuff because he's too reactive and not proactive. Tony refused to let his PTSD get to him and fought the whole way through, Xavier just gave up until Logan showed up. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 13, 2018 12:37:52 GMT
They love to hate MCU that’s for sure. Because mcu movies are destroying cinema and are harming the genre. No, they saved the CBM genre after Singer and Nolan nearly destroyed it. Now people are no longer ashamed of actual comic book elements the way they used to be. Now folks are waking up to how limited stuff like the XCU really is. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 13, 2018 12:40:49 GMT
l could not bring my GFs (all academics like me) to watch MCU, Afraid they'd enjoy something non-pretentious? Don't give them any copies of Dune, they'll die once they realize the story revolves around excrement. So CBMs that are ashamed of themselves. Pretentious. And loaded with meaningless meaningful words and delusions of eloquence rather than something unashamed and authentic. No, you give them someone authentic. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 13, 2018 12:44:11 GMT
Or they don't spend the whole movie on a subject that isn't important to the movie. They bring it up, they tell you how they feel about it and move on. Civil war was meant to be about the accords and Tonys/Cap differences in ideologies No, that was just one part of it. The beginning of the schism. The Accords were never going to be enough to get them to really start fighting each other. It wasn't enough to do it properly in the comics and it wouldn't work on-screen either without turning Cap and Tony into 1 dimensional douchebags. I'd rather Cap and Steve not devolve into Magneto's "Waah, my family was killed by Nazis so now I want to kill all humans!" and Xavier's "I want to make peace with humans but I never really do anything about it!" dance. The MCU isn't that creatively bankrupt. The MCU is a serial, they continue plots instead of going for a "One and done" story type. No, it just isn't "Take one idea and one idea alone and ignore absolutely everything else". The MCU isn't some "One and Done" type deal, like how Batman completely gets over his fear of superhumans, all superhumans, in BvS and he's fine with them after. Scababs asks me why I talk about the MCU the way I do, it's because it's constantly under attack from all angles because of all the envy it's attracted and people who just can't stand that there are unashamed CBMs out there that actually AREN'T disgusted by their source material the way Fox and DC are of theirs. |
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Post by charzhino on Feb 13, 2018 13:12:52 GMT
No, it just isn't "Take one idea and one idea alone and ignore absolutely everything else". The MCU isn't some "One and Done" type deal, like how Batman completely gets over his fear of superhumans, all superhumans, in BvS and he's fine with them after. Then stop attacking Xmen films because they arent serialized and work better as standalone loosely connected universe. When have i ever complained about the costumes or magic or aliens in the MCU. Never so stop lying. I complain about the narrative content of it not the visual. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 13, 2018 13:22:12 GMT
Then stop attacking Xmen films because they arent serialized and work better as standalone loosely connected universe. I will when Summers lays off the MCU. And there's nothing stopping the XCU from expanding and becoming more serialized other than whoever in charge being too cowardly to try new things. Summers makes it clear he can't stand the visuals either, none of them. And when YOU complain about the narrative stuff, that includes things like Aliens and Magic and their appearances. You guys keep bringing up the Nolan movies (which are outdated and wouldn't work that well today), did those movies include aliens and magic and stuff? No? Well then there's the connection, you hate the narratives BECAUSE they include things like that. Instead of rejecting them, the way the XCU does and the DCEU really wants to. EDIT: Of course, the one thing that offends XCU fans the most is that the MCU made non-X-Men and non-Spidey characters more recognized and popular. As far as XCU fans are concerned none of those characters deserved to exist in the first place and now that they're popular FoX-Fans just can't stand it. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Feb 13, 2018 16:35:22 GMT
Sorry if my contribution to the topic at hand seems a bit lazy or anything but serious question - Do summers8, Tristan, and DC-Fan have actual social lives? They spend the vast majority of their time trashing the MCU and its fan base and go nuts with the emoticons and exclamation points like they're hyped up on sugar. I always admired the depth and accuracy of your adhom deflections. When the argument is lost insult becomes thd tool of the loser (Sokrates).
May I in return finally dare to inquire about a grown-up who spends his time online salivating about movies intended for an emotional- and intelligence age of 8 year old boys (mighty beefcakes in tights), and who gets utterly butt sore when the flaws are dissected?
How does this agree with your social life, may be difficult to be taken seriously by others, especially by women I imaging. Or do you keep the whiny fanboy in the closet? Might explain it.
Of course that's only my perception, maybe in your resident milieu the lowly basement-dwelling MCU nerd is regarded as a sex symbol and go-getter? Kewl for you if so. To the next MCU marathon and beyond!
Cute, it looks like I struck a nerve with you, and your attempt at a comeback brings nothing but a minute long eye roll. You can try to twist the whole thing around and make me out to be the loser without a social life all you wish, it'll only increase the perception you have even less of one. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 13, 2018 16:55:12 GMT
I always admired the depth and accuracy of your adhom deflections. When the argument is lost insult becomes thd tool of the loser (Sokrates).
May I in return finally dare to inquire about a grown-up who spends his time online salivating about movies intended for an emotional- and intelligence age of 8 year old boys (mighty beefcakes in tights), and who gets utterly butt sore when the flaws are dissected?
How does this agree with your social life, may be difficult to be taken seriously by others, especially by women I imaging. Or do you keep the whiny fanboy in the closet? Might explain it.
Of course that's only my perception, maybe in your resident milieu the lowly basement-dwelling MCU nerd is regarded as a sex symbol and go-getter? Kewl for you if so. To the next MCU marathon and beyond!
Cute, it looks like I struck a nerve with you, and your attempt at a comeback brings nothing but a minute long eye roll. You can try to twist the whole thing around and make me out to be the loser without a social life all you wish, it'll only increase the perception you have even less of one. Tristan suffers from Delusions of Eloquence, it's a common thing among artsy-fartsy wannabes these days. |
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Feb 13, 2018 18:15:46 GMT
If it's your opinion that a Franchise who found away to capture the lion share of the market is detrimental then that's your opinion. The only thing I know is I've seen almost every comic book movie in theater since Superman 2. (i know i missed Supergirl and I think one other) for the last 20 years or so a group of about 13 of us would be there opening night. Thursday or more likely Friday. For the first time in 20 years I have to answer the question is this DC or Marvel. The 13 of us are fairly nerdy, but not in the same way. (Everyone has their own vice be it Magic the Gathering, Pokemon, D&D, Star Wars, Star Trek, etc etc) So now the non comic book guys (and 2 girls) ask if it's DC or Marvel (they don't even get the difference of Marvel Fox movie or Marvel Studios movie) If it's DCEU they don't go. They gave up after BvS. It took 3 weeks in theater, positive word of mouth, and me seeing then reporting back to get them to go to Wonder Woman. I couldn't get them to Suicide Squad or Justice League. This is all anecdotal and just my own experience so take it with a grain of salt. But generally speaking DCEU is surely an acquired taste, not as mass and children appealing as MCU, it's more artsy, grittier, gloomier and has philosophical undertones. You do not get 8 year olds and people of that intelligence age into that kind of stuff, they want Transformers, formula and 'splosions like MCU provides . Lmao you’re too funny... and pretentious. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Feb 13, 2018 18:26:00 GMT
But generally speaking DCEU is surely an acquired taste, not as mass and children appealing as MCU, it's more artsy, grittier, gloomier and has philosophical undertones. You do not get 8 year olds and people of that intelligence age into that kind of stuff, they want Transformers, formula and 'splosions like MCU provides . Lmao you’re too funny... and pretentious. must have hit close to the spot to get all you manchildren riled up like that, has DC fan left the building? Btw monkeys find toilet paper pretentious, as do little kids. But seriously guys you always make my day, thank you all for your unwavering propensity for low effort thinking. |
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