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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 11, 2017 20:56:41 GMT
Delete your account. You're a troll and have no intrinsic human worth. Do control yourself, that skin failures' going to spread otherwise. Delete your account.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 11, 2017 20:58:29 GMT
Do control yourself, that skin failures' going to spread otherwise. Delete your account. Please, for your own sake calm down. The veins are starting to bulge now.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 11, 2017 21:01:39 GMT
Please, for your own sake calm down. The veins are starting to bulge now. Stop trolling the boards.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 12, 2017 0:30:09 GMT
Please, for your own sake calm down. The veins are starting to bulge now. Stop trolling the boards. Stop overreacting to the X-men being called expendable. They are, you have to accept it.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 12, 2017 1:30:48 GMT
Stop trolling the boards. Stop overreacting to the X-men being called expendable. They are, you have to accept it. Stop trolling the boards. I've already reported you.
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Post by flasuss on Mar 12, 2017 3:45:53 GMT
Will you two assholes just stop that shit? Settle down, motherfuckers!
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 12, 2017 3:49:18 GMT
Will you two assholes just stop that shit? Settle down, motherfuckers!
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Post by medjay on Mar 12, 2017 8:24:05 GMT
100% I would stop watching. The only advantage under Disney would be comic accurate costumes but apart from that each film would descend into the typical MCU structured layout. The films would get consistently high RT scores and good box office numbers but they would ultimately be very forgettable and have a pungent manufactured flavour to them. As opposed to the typical FOX layout? The MCU has a ton more variety than the sell-out approach they've been using.
It's why they're going for R Rated stuff now, because even they realize they can't continue.
I think the MCU has a lower upside in terms of what kind of stories they can tell.
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Post by medjay on Mar 12, 2017 8:44:15 GMT
This idea that the X-Men have to exist on their own without any other superbeings never made much sense to me. Prejudice isn't some zero-sum game, in reality there have always been some minorities who had it worse than others. And it isn't like the MCU has a lot of genuine superbeings in the first place. Most of the Avengers are just normal Humans. An uberrobot, a magician, a superspeed guy, an ubersoldier, someone that shrinks. Plenty of reasons to freak out. They don't come from places of different developmental stages, but they do freak people out with their destructive potential.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 12, 2017 11:44:16 GMT
As opposed to the typical FOX layout? The MCU has a ton more variety than the sell-out approach they've been using.
It's why they're going for R Rated stuff now, because even they realize they can't continue.
I think the MCU has a lower upside in terms of what kind of stories they can tell. "lower upside"? And yes, they can potentially freak people out over what they can do. But they have very good PR, they don't hide themselves from the public, they make themselves accessible, etc. Basically everything the X-Men are bad at doing.
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Post by medjay on Mar 12, 2017 14:40:42 GMT
I think the MCU has a lower upside in terms of what kind of stories they can tell. "lower upside"? And yes, they can potentially freak people out over what they can do. But they have very good PR, they don't hide themselves from the public, they make themselves accessible, etc. Basically everything the X-Men are bad at doing. Where does this PR come from? What makes you think people had embraced the X guys in the middle of the Cold War?
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 12, 2017 15:36:33 GMT
"lower upside"? And yes, they can potentially freak people out over what they can do. But they have very good PR, they don't hide themselves from the public, they make themselves accessible, etc. Basically everything the X-Men are bad at doing. Where does this PR come from? What makes you think people had embraced the X guys in the middle of the Cold War? The PR comes from being a Government Sponsored team, having a guy like Tony Stark whose good at PR, Government Operatives like Widow and Hawkeye, a Legendary War hero like Cap, etc.
The X-Men have never even TRIED to work on their PR. They say they're about advancing Human/Mutant Relations but in truth they suck at it.
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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 12, 2017 17:16:37 GMT
I'm an X-men fan no matter how much the Singer movies suck at being X-men movies. I watch the Fox movies* because I'm an X-men fan. If you'd stop watching X-men movies (no matter if they are better than the Fox movies) because they are in the MCU, you are not an X-men fan. You are a Fox X-men movie fan.
*Liked Deadpool, Logan, First Class and The Wolverine in that order.
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Post by charzhino on Mar 12, 2017 17:40:04 GMT
Where does this PR come from? What makes you think people had embraced the X guys in the middle of the Cold War? The PR comes from being a Government Sponsored team, having a guy like Tony Stark whose good at PR, Government Operatives like Widow and Hawkeye, a Legendary War hero like Cap, etc.
The X-Men have never even TRIED to work on their PR. They say they're about advancing Human/Mutant Relations but in truth they suck at it.
Xavier wanting to set up his campus for mutant and human students to study alongside each other doesnt count?
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 12, 2017 17:50:06 GMT
The PR comes from being a Government Sponsored team, having a guy like Tony Stark whose good at PR, Government Operatives like Widow and Hawkeye, a Legendary War hero like Cap, etc.
The X-Men have never even TRIED to work on their PR. They say they're about advancing Human/Mutant Relations but in truth they suck at it.
Xavier wanting to set up his campus for mutant and human students to study alongside each other doesnt count? He never actually did it, he preferred hiding.
And by the time of Apocalypse, it's WAY too little WAY too late.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Mar 12, 2017 17:57:54 GMT
Xavier wanting to set up his campus for mutant and human students to study alongside each other doesnt count? He never actually did it, he preferred hiding.
And by the time of Apocalypse, it's WAY too little WAY too late.
Actually the ending to Days of Future Past showed that happened.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 12, 2017 17:58:16 GMT
He never actually did it, he preferred hiding.
And by the time of Apocalypse, it's WAY too little WAY too late.
Actually the ending to Days of Future Past showed that happened. Again, too little too late.
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Post by charzhino on Mar 12, 2017 18:06:37 GMT
Xavier wanting to set up his campus for mutant and human students to study alongside each other doesnt count? He never actually did it, he preferred hiding.
And by the time of Apocalypse, it's WAY too little WAY too late.
Just refuting your claim that the X-Men never "even tried" when I clearly show you that they did. The ending in Days of Future Past also is probably the biggest PR push you can get, with Xavier asking Mystique to show the world live on camera that a mutant saved the President and his cabinet. This caused a shut down of Trask Industries and spread positivity about mutants through headlines in worldwide newspapers. Only then in XMA Charles feels enough time has passed since DOFP to try and interweave humans and mutants to co-exist. But this is never achieved because in almost every film there is a corrupt Mutant who severely weakens these potential bonds through acts of insanity like Sebastian Shaw and Apocalypse. Come to think of it, it's very similar to the portrayal of Islam and Muslims in the world today. Right now it's relatively peaceful and people are trying to understand and be on similar terms with Muslims. But soon as a big terrorist attack happens, the landscape almost irreversibly changes.
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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 12, 2017 18:46:59 GMT
He never actually did it, he preferred hiding.
And by the time of Apocalypse, it's WAY too little WAY too late.
Just refuting your claim that the X-Men never "even tried" when I clearly show you that they did. The ending in Days of Future Past also is probably the biggest PR push you can get, with Xavier asking Mystique to show the world live on camera that a mutant saved the President and his cabinet. That was incidental. He wasn't going out to try and repair human/mutant relations. He was just trying to save a friend.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 12, 2017 19:05:52 GMT
He never actually did it, he preferred hiding.
And by the time of Apocalypse, it's WAY too little WAY too late.
Just refuting your claim that the X-Men never "even tried" when I clearly show you that they did. The ending in Days of Future Past also is probably the biggest PR push you can get, with Xavier asking Mystique to show the world live on camera that a mutant saved the President and his cabinet. This caused a shut down of Trask Industries and spread positivity about mutants through headlines in worldwide newspapers. Only then in XMA Charles feels enough time has passed since DOFP to try and interweave humans and mutants to co-exist. But this is never achieved because in almost every film there is a corrupt Mutant who severely weakens these potential bonds through acts of insanity like Sebastian Shaw and Apocalypse. Come to think of it, it's very similar to the portrayal of Islam and Muslims in the world today. Right now it's relatively peaceful and people are trying to understand and be on similar terms with Muslims. But soon as a big terrorist attack happens, the landscape almost irreversibly changes. Showing us that bit in some epilogue set in the future isn't advancing Human/Mutant Relations. It's a cowardly way out.
Like That Guy said, Charles didn't do that for Human/Mutant Relations. If he really cared he'd have come out as being a mutant years ago and made it clear he runs a mutant school. Instead he hides and waits for the problem to solve itself.
He's an all around incompetent.
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