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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 16, 2020 19:01:55 GMT
They had more screentime. In First Class, they didn't even bother giving Banshee his Scottish accent, something the Generation X film was thoughtful enough to include even though it was a small insignificant detail and he was a minor character in both films. It's the little things that add up and count to the fans and shows that they respect the source material. Emma was great in FC. Too bad they killed her for the subsequent movies. Banshee... well, I think Banshee on movies can't be prominent. I mean, the character works on comic book in a fine way, but his cinematic rendition is gonna be a bit lame on screen, no matter what. That's my opinion.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 16, 2020 18:00:00 GMT
I actually do vaguely remember watching it. I don't remember a single thing about it but I do know that I watched it. I do remember the Justice League TV pilot more though which must have come out around the same time. What's funny is that this cheap little TV movie did a better job at adapting Emma Frost, Jubilee and Banshee than the films ever did. They had more screentime.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 10, 2020 18:41:19 GMT
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 10, 2020 17:47:00 GMT
You know I'm right. Swollow your pride, buddy. Life is fun. Have fun. Relax. English people are fantastic. Very cold, but also cool. Be English. Don't pretend to be what you aren't.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 10, 2020 13:22:21 GMT
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 9, 2020 19:27:11 GMT
Eons ago, Cronenberg launched this cold, thrilling sci-fi (SCANNERS and even its less known predecessors, or also the successor VIDEODROME) dealing with mysterious body mutations as well as intriguing ways to connect minds each to other. En Sabah Nur felt more sci-fi than comic book fantasy, and he looked and felt mysterious and fascinating. He reminded me of many Cronenberg characters, like Daryl Revok (Michael Ironside), the archenemy in "Scanners". I'm fully aware of Cronenberg's films, having seen all but a few of the later ones and all the pre-Scannners ones. The telekenisis/telepathy on show in Scanners bares little resemblance to that to that on show in Apocalypse. In fact why isn't it DePalma-esque considering Fury came out 3 years before Scanners and exhibited almost identical powers to Scanners. Cronenberg is known for his "body horror"...in fact the chief purveyour of it. The main themes of most of his films is the fear of (and joy from) corruption of the flesh and the physical manifestation of psychological trauma. I don't see that in Apocalypse. At a stretch the Marvel character that could fall in that category is The Hulk. SCANNERS was far more groundbreaking than FURY, because it introduced ideas as "mind hive", Internet (!), fusion among personalities/consciences and the power of ruthless corporations over genetics and human kind. I wasn't saying that in a LITERAL way, however. I was saying that En Sabah Nur felt like a Cronenbergesque character, a character taken from that cold, visceral sci-fi "APPROACH". I wasn't being literal at all.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 9, 2020 18:36:32 GMT
OK I'll take the bait...how exactly is he "Cronenberg-esque"? C'mon Martin Brundle - Martinfly ....I am genuinely intrigued to hear your answer Eons ago, Cronenberg launched this cold, thrilling sci-fi (SCANNERS and even its less known predecessors, or also the successor VIDEODROME) dealing with mysterious body mutations as well as intriguing ways to connect minds each to other. En Sabah Nur felt more sci-fi than comic book fantasy, and he looked and felt mysterious and fascinating. He reminded me of many Cronenberg characters, like Daryl Revok (Michael Ironside), the archenemy in "Scanners". By the way, there are several hints about "Logan" being a standalone universe. The real ending of the Mainstream Universe is the positive future of DOFP (2023). In the "Logan" universe: 1- At the end of "Dark Phoenix", mutants are no more seen in a "friendly" way. I doubt that humans would issue comic books about them in the 2000s/2010s or so. 2- Old Man Logan killed the scientists in his version of the WX Program. Our Logan never did that in "Apocalypse", he slaughtered the soldiers. 3- There was no Transigen-Alkali in "Apocalypse". 4- There was no adamantium bullet in "Apocalypse". In the original timeline, the adamantium bullet had been already used anyway, and it wasn't available anymore. 5- There are mutant children at the school in the ending of DOFP (2023). This means that mutant births didn't stop in 2004, I mean in the mainstream X-Men universe. 6- In DOFP, Phoenix is alive. In the deleted scene of "Logan", Old Man Logan talks about killing Jean and his remorse. That said, I doubt that Phoenix wouldn't be able to stop Xavier from killing the X-Men. 7- They never talk about the time-travelling issue. 8- Caliban is totally different. 9- Logan is supposed to have been "masked and costumed" in his X-Man days, wearing the comic book costume. 10- Charles is 90 years old in "Logan" (2029). In the mainstream X-Men universe, he is born in 1932.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 8, 2020 23:16:51 GMT
There are several hints about "Logan" being a standalone universe. The real ending of the Mainstream Universe is the positive future of DOFP (2023). In the "Logan" universe: 1- At the end of "Dark Phoenix", mutants are no more seen in a "friendly" way. I doubt that humans would issue comic books about them in the 2000s/2010s or so. 2- Old Man Logan killed the scientists in his version of the WX Program. Our Logan never did that in "Apocalypse", he slaughtered the soldiers. 3- There was no Transigen-Alkali in "Apocalypse". 4- There was no adamantium bullet in "Apocalypse". In the original timeline, the adamantium bullet had been already used anyway, and it wasn't available anymore. 5- There are mutant children at the school in the ending of DOFP (2023). This means that mutant births didn't stop in 2004, I mean in the mainstream X-Men universe. 6- In DOFP, Phoenix is alive. In the deleted scene of "Logan", Old Man Logan talks about killing Jean and his remorse. That said, I doubt that Phoenix wouldn't be able to stop Xavier from killing the X-Men. 7- They never talk about the time-travelling issue. 8- Caliban is totally different. 9- Logan is supposed to have been "masked and costumed" in his X-Man days, wearing the comic book costume. 10- Charles is 90 years old in "Logan" (2029). In the mainstream X-Men universe, he is born in 1932. Or...the studio and filmmakers don't care about the specifics in these films (pesky continuity, consistency) and just pick and choose things willy nilly. It's easier to think of each film as a reboot and it's own cinematic universe. Even if there were MINOR discrepancies between Origins and the original trilogy, or between First Class and the original trilogy, you can easily fix those. I did it. "Logan" felt way too different and, IMHO, those discrepancies were bigger and larger. I see "Logan" as a nice send-off letter for the Wolverine character of the original trilogy/timeline. There are hints to Origins and The Wolverine.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 8, 2020 22:47:45 GMT
Logan is my favorite as long as it's viewed as an Elseworlds standalone story. However, it's clearly meant to be connected to the mainstream universe, just set in the future. There are several hints about "Logan" being a standalone universe. The real ending of the Mainstream Universe is the positive future of DOFP (2023). In the "Logan" universe: 1- At the end of "Dark Phoenix", mutants are no more seen in a "friendly" way. I doubt that humans would issue comic books about them in the 2000s/2010s or so. 2- Old Man Logan killed the scientists in his version of the WX Program. Our Logan never did that in "Apocalypse", he slaughtered the soldiers. 3- There was no Transigen-Alkali in "Apocalypse". 4- There was no adamantium bullet in "Apocalypse". In the original timeline, the adamantium bullet had been already used anyway, and it wasn't available anymore. 5- There are mutant children at the school in the ending of DOFP (2023). This means that mutant births didn't stop in 2004, I mean in the mainstream X-Men universe. 6- In DOFP, Phoenix is alive. In the deleted scene of "Logan", Old Man Logan talks about killing Jean and his remorse. That said, I doubt that Phoenix wouldn't be able to stop Xavier from killing the X-Men. 7- They never talk about the time-travelling issue. 8- Caliban is totally different. 9- Logan is supposed to have been "masked and costumed" in his X-Man days, wearing the comic book costume. 10- Charles is 90 years old in "Logan" (2029). In the mainstream X-Men universe, he is born in 1932.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 6, 2020 21:50:39 GMT
Vote!
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 5, 2020 23:28:13 GMT
Words, words, words. Dazzie Dazz.
You know I'm 100% right.
I didn't even read your previous post. You're boring as hell. YOu talk to much. You're a living Epic Fail.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 5, 2020 14:24:57 GMT
Delusions and delirious comments of the trolls (Dazz, Bud) apart:
1- We just proved that the X-Men (minus Logan) had a good amount of screentime throughout the saga, and Wolverine wasn't the only main character of the franchise. Excluding the 3 Wolverine solo movies - Xavier, Jean Grey/Phoenix, Mystique, Magneto, Beast --- they all had a great amount of screentime, as well as prominence in the story.
2- We just proved that Cyclops has been "redeemed" by movies following "The Last Stand". 47m 15s + Havok's presence on 3 movies as "origin point".
This franchise is the best.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 4, 2020 23:46:41 GMT
Cyclops was one of the prominent "symbols" in the original Fox trilogy as well as on the promotional material for it, so I would vote for him. He is the "prime" X-Man.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 4, 2020 23:12:29 GMT
Blah blah blah.
Delusions. Delusions of glory. Oh, old delusions of glory, Dazzie.
Enjoy life, man, or you're doomed to lose. As now.
Thank you for bumping this great thread about the superb and excellent X-Men franchise. Good job, kid.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 4, 2020 14:15:44 GMT
I'm just an X-Men expert who created the reference movie timeline for worldwide fans. It's a work of passion. You live in a very civilized country where life is beautiful, so you should know what "work of passion" means and you should also know that Dazz's coward name calling (protected by a computer screen) has no place in the Canadian society. Be a Canadian. A timeline no one but you thinks is credible, an expert who doesn't even know what is going on in many of the movies, again like Nicko said an inflated sense of self importance, which is evident anytime you open your ignorant gob.
Also really I am hiding who I am? Dazz is a nickname I have always gone by, I doubt Supperhero is your given name, or even a nickname anyone gave you, also so what if name calling has no place in Canadian society what does that have to do with anything I aint Canadian I'm British,
Cowardice is neither part of the glorious British heritage, so I guess you're a "deviant". Hiding behind a screen and calling people "stupid" just because they do not agree with your nonsense anger or your overly-frustrated remarks, well, my friend, that's not ENGLISH at all, believe me. Your offences don't and can't touch me: they are just words on a screen. Buffoonery, you know. I talked with TONS of people here, via private messages, and they all agree that you're a bad element for this board and 100% detrimental. Nobody likes you. In regards to the timeline, people loved it, and it's a reference milestone. It makes sense and it makes sense out of the X-Men movie franchise. That's it, nothing more to say.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 4, 2020 14:09:59 GMT
There’s the self-importance again. "you don’t like these movies therefore you’re a dumb drone. I like these movies therefore I’m brilliant and superior". Well, fact is, he is constantly bashing X-Men movies and X-Men fans, so I guess it's something personal for him, and also anti-democratical. He's always on this board, he always posts. That's incredible.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 4, 2020 13:59:37 GMT
I just think you should recaliber your movie tastes, because these are crazy and weird assumptions. Too many funny and one-liner filled MCU movies in your head. Children movies. 3: No because the reason I dislike them isn't because they aren't like the MCU or not funny enough,
You ride the hype, that's your problem. You're like a drone. THE LAST STAND made the mistake to fuse together two main plots --- still, it's a bleak and brilliant superhero movie. APOCALYPSE is an epic and wonderful sci-fi movie, very X-Men-ish. Despite being the one true "weak" entry in the franchise, ORIGINS is still a fun and entertaining popcorn superhero movie, which captures the virtues and the flaws of the Wolverine solo comic book of the eighties.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 4, 2020 13:32:09 GMT
Your inflated sense of self-importance is much worse than any of dazz’s name calling. I'm just an X-Men expert who created the reference movie timeline for worldwide fans. It's a work of passion. You live in a very civilized country where life is beautiful, so you should know what "work of passion" means and you should also know that Dazz's coward name calling (protected by a computer screen) has no place in the Canadian society. Be a Canadian.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 4, 2020 13:18:15 GMT
You're from Canada. Well, that's great. Canada is a wonderful and very peaceful country, and I'm a HUGE Alpha Flight fan, not only a Wolverine fan.
I admire Canadians. So you have a big legacy on your shoulders. Be Canadian, don't pretend to be something you're not: a violent and destructive/self-destructive person. You're not a bully. I mean, you're Canadian: you live among brave and astonishing persons.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 4, 2020 13:15:33 GMT
America can still be a great country. I believe in Americans. Why do you believe anyone who isn’t Italian on this board is American? I’m not American and neither is dazz (I think). Are you English? Where are you from? Open yourself to people, do it honestly. Anger is destroying you from the inside, and that's not good for your life. I can sense it. Time to change, grow, evolve. You can do it.
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