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Post by klawrencio79 on Nov 26, 2018 22:30:45 GMT
Braves sign Josh Donaldson to a 1-year, $23m pillow contract. Lot of dough for a guy with a long list of injury concerns, but I kinda like it for them. They're on the rise and it shows they're seriously pushing to contend if they're still going to go after Machado or Harper. Obvious risks here but the upside makes it worth the gamble. Fortune favors the bold.
Plus, if he's gunning for that one last big contract, that's not a bad place to do it. The lineup would be Acuna, Albies, Freeman, Donaldson. Not a bad 4some right there.
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Post by Geddy on Nov 26, 2018 22:40:40 GMT
Braves sign Josh Donaldson to a 1-year, $23m pillow contract. Lot of dough for a guy with a long list of injury concerns, but I kinda like it for them. They're on the rise and it shows they're seriously pushing to contend if they're still going to go after Machado or Harper. Obvious risks here but the upside makes it worth the gamble. Fortune favors the bold. Plus, if he's gunning for that one last big contract, that's not a bad place to do it. The lineup would be Acuna, Albies, Freeman, Donaldson. Not a bad 4some right there. Yeah good luck with that as Donaldson is on his last legs literally as I doubt he'll play more than 100 games next season.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Nov 26, 2018 22:42:49 GMT
The Braves also re-signed Brian McCann to a 1-year, $2m contract. He'll serve in a platoon role with Tyler Flowers. Not a lot of great options at catcher this offseason.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 22:42:57 GMT
Where do you see Harper and Machado ending up. Do you dare see the Angels trading Trout for a ransom. And what are your Mets up to this Winter Meeting season?
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Post by klawrencio79 on Nov 26, 2018 22:49:13 GMT
Where do you see Harper and Machado ending up. Do you dare see the Angels trading Trout for a ransom. And what are your Mets up to this Winter Meeting season? I think Machado stays put in LA, Harper goes to the Phillies (although I wouldn't say it's a done deal as you noted earlier). I don't see the Yankees being involved at all, however, which will help keep his price somewhat down. That's just Boras doing that in order to snake a few more zeroes onto the deal. I don't see Trout going anywhere. It would have to be a team like the Braves - a team with a great farm system and young core that is on the cusp. If you trade what it would take to land Trout, you're not making yourself better because you'd trade away the guys who put you where you are. It's just not going to happen. The Mets I don't think are up to much. There were rumors swirling over the weekend about Syndergaard being available, with the Padres seemingly actively involved. I think that's just the team gauging interest. For the right deal (with at least one guy who has shown he can play at the MLB level) I'm all for it but I don't want to see him dumped for a handful of unproven prospects, I don't care how highly rated they are.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Nov 26, 2018 22:50:14 GMT
The Braves also re-signed Brian McCann to a 1-year, $2m contract. He'll serve in a platoon role with Tyler Flowers. Not a lot of great options at catcher this offseason. mr. unwritten rule returns! I am SO LOOKING FORWARD to all the unnecessary skirmishes and hubbubs the dork instigates by showing the youngins on the bravos THE RIGHT WAY TO PLAY.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 1:17:48 GMT
As a Braves fan I am not happy with either of these signings. Donaldson can't stay on the field anymore and the Braves have a good 3rd baseman in Johan Camargo as is. I don't see how much of an improvement he will be specially seeing how much they'll be paying him. That kind of money could be spent elsewhere, idk like maybe an area of need?
Also seeing the Braves bringing back McCann tells me that this is what they're going to roll with at Catcher and that pisses me off. A platoon of Flowers/McCann isn't an upgrade on what they had last year and catcher was a big hole coming into the offseason. They simply made it worse with signing McCann who can't hit anymore or play defense.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Nov 27, 2018 2:26:27 GMT
As a Braves fan I am not happy with either of these signings. Donaldson can't stay on the field anymore and the Braves have a good 3rd baseman in Johan Camargo as is. I don't see how much of an improvement he will be specially seeing how much they'll be paying him. That kind of money could be spent elsewhere, idk like maybe an area of need? Also seeing the Braves bringing back McCann tells me that this is what they're going to roll with at Catcher and that pisses me off. A platoon of Flowers/McCann isn't an upgrade on what they had last year and catcher was a big hole coming into the offseason. They simply made it worse with signing McCann who can't hit anymore or play defense. "McCann who can't hit anymore or play defense." So? It's an unwritten rule that if a catcher goes back to his old team and you try to steal a base on him or strike him out that his team gets to bean the other team's pitcher when he hits. The youngsters braves are going to learn to PLAY THE GAME THE RIGHT WAY.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 2:30:44 GMT
As a Braves fan I am not happy with either of these signings. Donaldson can't stay on the field anymore and the Braves have a good 3rd baseman in Johan Camargo as is. I don't see how much of an improvement he will be specially seeing how much they'll be paying him. That kind of money could be spent elsewhere, idk like maybe an area of need? Also seeing the Braves bringing back McCann tells me that this is what they're going to roll with at Catcher and that pisses me off. A platoon of Flowers/McCann isn't an upgrade on what they had last year and catcher was a big hole coming into the offseason. They simply made it worse with signing McCann who can't hit anymore or play defense. "McCann who can't hit anymore or play defense." So? It's an unwritten rule that if a catcher goes back to his old team and you try to steal a base on him or strike him out that his team gets to bean the other team's pitcher when he hits. The youngsters braves are going to learn to PLAY THE GAME THE RIGHT WAY. Ugh, the only pitcher that deserves to get hit is whats his face that drilled Acuna. McCann literally brings nothing to the Braves next year. So dumb. I could live with shit like that if was actually going to produce. Now it's just gonna be annoying as fuck.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Nov 27, 2018 3:21:33 GMT
As a Braves fan I am not happy with either of these signings. Donaldson can't stay on the field anymore and the Braves have a good 3rd baseman in Johan Camargo as is. I don't see how much of an improvement he will be specially seeing how much they'll be paying him. That kind of money could be spent elsewhere, idk like maybe an area of need? Also seeing the Braves bringing back McCann tells me that this is what they're going to roll with at Catcher and that pisses me off. A platoon of Flowers/McCann isn't an upgrade on what they had last year and catcher was a big hole coming into the offseason. They simply made it worse with signing McCann who can't hit anymore or play defense. They are reportedly going to treat Camargo like Marwen Gonzalez and use him at multiple infield positions. If Donaldson gets hurt, then you plug Camargo back in at 3rd. Sure, it’s risky and a bit of a gamble but think of it this way - it’s pure upside given it’s only one year and they’re so flush with cash, I don’t see this as much of an impediment for signing other guys. If it doesn’t work, he’s gone next year. If it does, then awesome. McCann, yeah he blows, but again 1 year, $2m in a year that is truly bereft of quality alternatives. He will bat 8th so you really just need him to handle his defense.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 3:29:53 GMT
As a Braves fan I am not happy with either of these signings. Donaldson can't stay on the field anymore and the Braves have a good 3rd baseman in Johan Camargo as is. I don't see how much of an improvement he will be specially seeing how much they'll be paying him. That kind of money could be spent elsewhere, idk like maybe an area of need? Also seeing the Braves bringing back McCann tells me that this is what they're going to roll with at Catcher and that pisses me off. A platoon of Flowers/McCann isn't an upgrade on what they had last year and catcher was a big hole coming into the offseason. They simply made it worse with signing McCann who can't hit anymore or play defense. They are reportedly going to treat Camargo like Marwen Gonzalez and use him at multiple infield positions. If Donaldson gets hurt, then you plug Camargo back in at 3rd. Sure, it’s risky and a bit of a gamble but think of it this way - it’s pure upside given it’s only one year and they’re so flush with cash, I don’t see this as much of an impediment for signing other guys. If it doesn’t work, he’s gone next year. If it does, then awesome. McCann, yeah he blows, but again 1 year, $2m in a year that is truly bereft of quality alternatives. He will bat 8th so you really just need him to handle his defense. Donaldson isn't the worst move by any means I just have little faith in his ability to stay on the field and contribute for 140 games. It's a decent 1 year rebuild your free agent value kind of move but I'd of much preferred keeping Camargo as the everyday 3rd baseman instead of a super utility role when he hasn't played the outfield at all which is a huge need as well as starting pitching, bullpen, bench, and catcher. It appears as though the Braves are now punting on Catcher which pisses me off. If he stays healthy and is productive then great. I just don't have faith that he will do that so in my mind it's gonna be a $23 million dollar disabled list player. He's apparently a better defender than I thought so I guess the 3rd base defense won't be taking a hit.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Nov 27, 2018 4:49:39 GMT
As a Braves fan I am not happy with either of these signings. Donaldson can't stay on the field anymore and the Braves have a good 3rd baseman in Johan Camargo as is. I don't see how much of an improvement he will be specially seeing how much they'll be paying him. That kind of money could be spent elsewhere, idk like maybe an area of need? Also seeing the Braves bringing back McCann tells me that this is what they're going to roll with at Catcher and that pisses me off. A platoon of Flowers/McCann isn't an upgrade on what they had last year and catcher was a big hole coming into the offseason. They simply made it worse with signing McCann who can't hit anymore or play defense. They are reportedly going to treat Camargo like Marwen Gonzalez and use him at multiple infield positions. If Donaldson gets hurt, then you plug Camargo back in at 3rd. Sure, it’s risky and a bit of a gamble but think of it this way - it’s pure upside given it’s only one year and they’re so flush with cash, I don’t see this as much of an impediment for signing other guys. If it doesn’t work, he’s gone next year. If it does, then awesome. McCann, yeah he blows, but again 1 year, $2m in a year that is truly bereft of quality alternatives. He will bat 8th so you really just need him to handle his defense. That Carmargo sharmgo move you are talking about is against at least 3 unwritten rules. That McCann’t happen.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Nov 27, 2018 14:17:31 GMT
Braves sign Josh Donaldson to a 1-year, $23m pillow contract. Lot of dough for a guy with a long list of injury concerns, but I kinda like it for them. They're on the rise and it shows they're seriously pushing to contend if they're still going to go after Machado or Harper. Obvious risks here but the upside makes it worth the gamble. Fortune favors the bold. Plus, if he's gunning for that one last big contract, that's not a bad place to do it. The lineup would be Acuna, Albies, Freeman, Donaldson. Not a bad 4some right there. The Mets have made the call to Riggleman! www.sny.tv/mets/news/mets-hire-jim-riggleman-as-bench-coach/301128482
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Post by klawrencio79 on Nov 27, 2018 14:51:03 GMT
They are reportedly going to treat Camargo like Marwen Gonzalez and use him at multiple infield positions. If Donaldson gets hurt, then you plug Camargo back in at 3rd. Sure, it’s risky and a bit of a gamble but think of it this way - it’s pure upside given it’s only one year and they’re so flush with cash, I don’t see this as much of an impediment for signing other guys. If it doesn’t work, he’s gone next year. If it does, then awesome. McCann, yeah he blows, but again 1 year, $2m in a year that is truly bereft of quality alternatives. He will bat 8th so you really just need him to handle his defense. Donaldson isn't the worst move by any means I just have little faith in his ability to stay on the field and contribute for 140 games. It's a decent 1 year rebuild your free agent value kind of move but I'd of much preferred keeping Camargo as the everyday 3rd baseman instead of a super utility role when he hasn't played the outfield at all which is a huge need as well as starting pitching, bullpen, bench, and catcher. It appears as though the Braves are now punting on Catcher which pisses me off. If he stays healthy and is productive then great. I just don't have faith that he will do that so in my mind it's gonna be a $23 million dollar disabled list player. He's apparently a better defender than I thought so I guess the 3rd base defense won't be taking a hit. Donaldson is a terrific defender. As I said in the original post about it, the risks are obvious, but the upside is there. If it doesn't work out, it's one year. When you sign guys like Donaldson looking to re-establish their value to multi-year deals, then I scratch my head. But on a one-year deal for a guy looking to prove himself to the rest of the league and who, when he is healthy, can obviously play with the best of them, it's worth the risk to me. If I'm a Braves fan, I'm at least excited at the prospect of what a healthy Donaldson can bring.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Nov 27, 2018 18:40:43 GMT
Apparently the Mets are "aggressively" pursuing Robbie Cano. I know the M's are hot to unload him, but they'd have to eat a huge chunk of his salary and, at 36 and coming off a PED suspension, the return would be pretty low.
Why the fuck would the Mets be interested in this? The goal is to get younger, healthier, maybe (dare I suggest) a little exciting. The rumors are they want to unload Jay Bruce's "bad" contract here, but all things considered, his contract isn't that bad. He has 2 years left and $26m on it. Yeah, he was awful last year but he also was hurt in spring training and never really took the time to recover when it first happened, in vintage Met fashion of turning what should have been a 2-3 week trip to the shelf into a season-long malady. Even with that, if he's healthy next year, he provides good pop from the left side.
I just don't get this. If you want to trade Syndergaard to improve in multiple areas, as you've said, then that's fine (not suggesting they trade him for Cano, in any universe). If you want to shed bad money in Bruce, don't pick up other bad money in a 36-year old guy on the downside of his now tarnished career. ESPECIALLY when Jeff McNeil looked so strong last year over 60+ games. Just makes no sense.
(and apologies to Nuts, I forgot about his Hot Stove thread. Now we have 2 threads!! TWO!!!)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 21:16:35 GMT
D'Backs lefty Patrick Corbin in Philly today - Yanks are also in pursuit...........
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Nov 27, 2018 21:22:20 GMT
Donaldson isn't the worst move by any means I just have little faith in his ability to stay on the field and contribute for 140 games. It's a decent 1 year rebuild your free agent value kind of move but I'd of much preferred keeping Camargo as the everyday 3rd baseman instead of a super utility role when he hasn't played the outfield at all which is a huge need as well as starting pitching, bullpen, bench, and catcher. It appears as though the Braves are now punting on Catcher which pisses me off. If he stays healthy and is productive then great. I just don't have faith that he will do that so in my mind it's gonna be a $23 million dollar disabled list player. He's apparently a better defender than I thought so I guess the 3rd base defense won't be taking a hit. Donaldson is a terrific defender. As I said in the original post about it, the risks are obvious, but the upside is there. If it doesn't work out, it's one year. When you sign guys like Donaldson looking to re-establish their value to multi-year deals, then I scratch my head. But on a one-year deal for a guy looking to prove himself to the rest of the league and who, when he is healthy, can obviously play with the best of them, it's worth the risk to me. If I'm a Braves fan, I'm at least excited at the prospect of what a healthy Donaldson can bring. Who is Donaldson’s agent? That contract is for something else in the future too...
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Nov 27, 2018 21:22:42 GMT
D'Backs lefty Patrick Corbin in Philly today - Yanks are also in pursuit........... Getting cheesesteaks?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 21:28:49 GMT
D'Backs lefty Patrick Corbin in Philly today - Yanks are also in pursuit........... Getting cheesesteaks? Apparently his girlfriend is with him on the trip - good sign - hope they're charming the pants off of the 'significant other'
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Nov 28, 2018 0:36:34 GMT
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