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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 13, 2018 23:29:31 GMT
No, Erjen doesn't hate gays or anyone else. Also, God doesn't "hate gays" in the Old Testament as you said recently. Now if you keep telling these lies, I'm going to have to get something done about it. You're a gay man, and pretty much everyone knows it by now, but you're overdoing the "hate" routine. Enough already. So you don't hate gays. If you say so. It's just that I could swear you had some hangup with gays.
You call me gay like there's something wrong with being gay.
What makes you so sure that I'm gay anyways?
Lovingly yours, Father Nelson.
Because you post too much about it. That's what makes me so sure.
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Post by Vegas on Jul 14, 2018 0:12:17 GMT
Anyone remember the LBGT board? That board is gay.
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Post by maya55555 on Jul 14, 2018 0:22:13 GMT
VEGAS:
YA, HAD BETTER BELIEVE IT HONEY!💖
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2018 19:13:38 GMT
So you don't hate gays. If you say so. It's just that I could swear you had some hangup with gays.
You call me gay like there's something wrong with being gay.
What makes you so sure that I'm gay anyways?
Lovingly yours, Father Nelson.
Because you post too much about it. That's what makes me so sure. You do too, except it takes the tone of "gays are bad; they are all sodomites".
I have gay friends, but I am not gay. Sorry to disappoint.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 14, 2018 19:21:40 GMT
Because you post too much about it. That's what makes me so sure. You do too, except it takes the tone of "gays are bad; they are all sodomites".
I have gay friends, but I am not gay. Sorry to disappoint.
I find that difficult to believe, but whatever.
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Post by Aj_June on Jul 14, 2018 19:36:08 GMT
Because you post too much about it. That's what makes me so sure. You do too, except it takes the tone of "gays are bad; they are all sodomites".
I have gay friends, but I am not gay. Sorry to disappoint.
Well, this particular thread wasn't meant to discuss Erjen's stand on homosexuality but mistaken beliefs about integration of transgenders in LGBt. I hope we can discuss other issues in a separate thread.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2018 20:07:52 GMT
My old boss is a gay male age 45.
He told me he hates when people say they are bisexual or trangender.
He actually thinks bisexual people are just flat out gay, but feel more comfortable saying they like both. It's insulting to him as a gay man.
He said Transgenders are people who would rather say they have homosexual feelings because they are the wrong gender than admit they are gay. It's insulting to him. He said it's like "If I'm a man and I'm attracted to another man, I must be a woman."
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Post by Aj_June on Jul 14, 2018 20:11:59 GMT
My old boss is a gay male age 45. He told me he hates when people say they are bisexual or trangender. He actually thinks bisexual people are just flat out gay, but feel more comfortable saying they like both. It's insulting to him as a gay man. He said Transgenders are people who would rather say they have homosexual feelings because they are the wrong gender than admit they are gay. It's insulting to him. He said it's like "If I'm a man and I'm attracted to another man, I must be a woman." Yeah, sadly there are people who dislike others based on their assumptions and prejudices. Your boss seems to believe he knows it all about the issue.
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Post by Aj_June on Jul 14, 2018 20:24:31 GMT
He said Transgenders are people who would rather say they have homosexual feelings because they are the wrong gender than admit they are gay. It's insulting to him. He said it's like "If I'm a man and I'm attracted to another man, I must be a woman." His point is so easily refutable. There are males who become females and then have relations with females. So boss's point gets totally refuted. In any case I just wonder how these people can assume how others think. There are different people who think differently. One should not be arrogant to assume things for millions of people of any group.
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Post by Marv on Jul 15, 2018 12:16:09 GMT
I really don’t think it’s anyone’s place to claim what ‘homosexuality represents’. Not even the gays. Makes you feel like they have an agreed upon agenda and I don’t think that’s fair to the gays that don’t give a rats ass about agendas.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 7:31:08 GMT
I think it's just based on the concept that gays and transgender people are not the same and that they shouldn't be put together in the same group. There are unique distinctions between the issues of gays and transgender people and grouping them together might undermine those issues that gays and transgenders go through individually. I would think the issues of gays described as being "dragged down" makes sense in that regard. Toasted Cheese just seems to have a negative impression towards transgenders and might not understand the problems they go through.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 17, 2018 11:51:12 GMT
When I was a kid, I always thought that "gay" simply meant a man who acted like a woman. Who dressed like a woman, moved like a woman and like a woman, was attracted to other men. In the country I grew up in, gays were pretty much a combination of homosexuals, transgenders and crossdressers.
It wasn't until I was in my early 20's that I met a guy who looked like a guy, acted like a guy but was attracted to other men. It was an eye opener for me. I always knew that sexual attraction was different from sexual orientation, but it was the first time I saw someone who had changed in one but not the other.
So anyway to your question, yes transgenders do sometimes muddy the waters for homosexuals. Not necessarily i a bad way, just that there's a lot of overlap between the 2 and (some) people have a difficulty knowing the difference.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 17:55:45 GMT
Because you post too much about it. That's what makes me so sure. You know, there are people who feel that way about you.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 22:01:20 GMT
You do too, except it takes the tone of "gays are bad; they are all sodomites".
I have gay friends, but I am not gay. Sorry to disappoint.
I find that difficult to believe, but whatever. I know you have some major hangups about gays.
What about you? Are you gay? The way you get so upset about it make me and most of the board wonder if you are or not.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 28, 2018 22:08:40 GMT
I find that difficult to believe, but whatever. I know you have some major hangups about gays.
What about you? Are you gay? The way you get so upset about it make me and most of the board wonder if you are or not.
No, I'm not gay. Gay is a perversion. Gay people are sick people, and I'm not sick. Next question, Father Jack Brother Nelson Brock Leroy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 22:13:08 GMT
I know you have some major hangups about gays.
What about you? Are you gay? The way you get so upset about it make me and most of the board wonder if you are or not.
No, I'm not gay. Gay is a perversion. Gay people are sick people, and I'm not sick. Next question, Father Jack Brother Nelson Brock Leroy. Really.
If you say so!
So when is the last time you went on a date?
With a human being?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 29, 2018 0:13:53 GMT
No, I'm not gay. Gay is a perversion. Gay people are sick people, and I'm not sick. Next question, Father Jack Brother Nelson Brock Leroy. Really.
If you say so!
So when is the last time you went on a date?
With a human being?
Sometime in the early 2000's. What the hell difference does it make? Are you writing my biography?
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Post by Aj_June on Jul 29, 2018 6:29:29 GMT
Agreed. It seems such comments are made on basis of emotions and not rationality. A person already takes a stance against transgenders and then has to create reasons to make himself/herself believe that transgenderism is causing such negative consequences. Excuse me! Since you are not homosexual and have even stated in your topic, a question 'only' to straight people, what would you even know about homosexuality? What approval are you seeking here?
The LGBT community—whatever or wherever the frick that is—has decided in it's infinite wisdom, that T is a part of the homosexual movement, when T is NOT A SEXUALITY. Is that not a simple enough logic for you to understand? Since Transgender wants to be the opposite sex to what they are born as, how can it be about homosexuality in terms of what man on man sexual desire is about? It is not an embracement of their own gender, but a desire to be like a female. How is that homosexuality? It can give out the impression that homo dudes want to be like women and are effeminate, which is what the straight dude is attracted too. Why don't they latch on the straight community then, that is if this community even exists as well?
You have as a matter of fact not understood the movement itself. No one is claiming that transgender is about sexuality. The LGBT movement is about providing equal rights to people of LGBT community.
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Post by Aj_June on Jul 29, 2018 6:35:54 GMT
The statement was written by a gay person called Toasted Cheese who never misses an opportunity to attack transgenders in threads that are started on transgenders on any board where he posts. If you go through his posting history it is full of such posts.
From what I remember even you are sympathetic towards transgenders. So I have no idea who are the transgender people who drag down the gays.
And erj is not homo friendly either, so what is your point?
I have already gone over this debate with Erj. I and him do not agree on homosexuality. He knows my opposition to his views.
I am focusing on the fact that you have a positive dislike for the fact that Transgenders are included in LGBT. As a matter of fact you bring these talks of "projections of ego". If anything you should think about your own ego involved in shaping your views and how absurd some of the points you have brought have been.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 29, 2018 6:39:39 GMT
And erj is not homo friendly either, so what is your point?
I have already gone over this debate with Erj. I and him do not agree on homosexuality. He knows my opposition to his views.
I am focusing on the fact that you have a positive dislike for the fact that Transgenders are included in LGBT. As a matter of fact you bring these talks of "projections of ego". If anything you should think about your own ego involved in shaping your views and how absurd some of the points you have brought have been.
They treat transgenders like crap. And from what I've gathered transgenders are the only ones in "LGBT" who can't help it. No choice with them.
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