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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 4, 2018 12:06:20 GMT
Observe as Toasted Cheese resorts to the "closet case" attack. It's all he has left at this point.  Just like your denial and delusions. Toasted Cheese.....must get......the last word.  |
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Post by phludowin on Aug 4, 2018 12:20:40 GMT
You throw around the lies comeback, whenever you get called out about your own lies and are confronted with them. Where is the acknowledgement? I don't recall lying about anything, but if you can show me where I've lied, I'll acknowledge it. I'll do it. You said: People find what's best for them. It is not something that you prescribe to others. It is natural mechanism within people what drives them to do things. They choose activities in order of what gives them maximum utility. To not understand or not be able to understand depicts limit of your understanding of other human beings. , even if it isn't. In a later post, Toasted Cheese said: You said... or they find what they think is best for them.To which you replied: Yes you did. You said...or they find what they think is best for them. How the frig would you know what is best for these abstract others once they find what they think is best for them? Who are they, what did they find? You're lying again. I don't know if you were lying, or if you just have reading comprehension issues. But I'll give you this one: You did not explicitely say that you know what is best for others. However, considering you used the word "wrong" in the first post I posted, and that you called homosexuality a "perversion" sometwhere else on this board, it's not that much a stretch to assume that you labor under the delusion that homosexuality is something bad. And this delusion is one way of believing what's good for others; you probably believe it's better for homosexuals to not be homosexuals. If that is true, then Toasted Cheese would be right on this point, and you would be wrong. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 4, 2018 12:22:01 GMT
I don't recall lying about anything, but if you can show me where I've lied, I'll acknowledge it. I'll do it. You said: Or they find what they think is best for them, even if it isn't. In a later post, Toasted Cheese said: You said... or they find what they think is best for them.To which you replied: No, I didn't. You're lying again. I don't know if you were lying, or if you just have reading comprehension issues. But I'll give you this one: You did not explicitely say that you know what is best for others. However, considering you used the word "wrong" in the first post I posted, and that you called homosexuality a "perversion" sometwhere else on this board, it's not that much a stretch to assume that you labor under the delusion that homosexuality is something bad. And this delusion is one way of believing what's good for others; you probably believe it's better for homosexuals to not be homosexuals. If that is true, then Toasted Cheese would be right on this point, and you would be wrong. Perhaps you have reading comprehension issues. |
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Post by phludowin on Aug 4, 2018 12:23:55 GMT
Did I call myself asexual? IMO having sex at least once is one of three experiences every human being should have. I disagree. In my opinion there are no experiences any human should have. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 4, 2018 12:24:47 GMT
Toasted Cheese.....must get......the last word. Of course! Do you think anyone is going to listen to anything you have to say and take you seriously?  I don't expect anyone to take me seriously. Do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you're just a queer who hates transgenders because they are stealing your spotlight? |
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Post by phludowin on Aug 4, 2018 12:25:19 GMT
Perhaps you have reading comprehension issues. If you can show me where, feel free to do so. All I did was quote parts of posts, and putting emphasis on some of them. I did not modify a single word. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 4, 2018 12:26:23 GMT
Perhaps you have reading comprehension issues. If you can show me where, feel free to do so. All I did was quote parts of posts, and putting emphasis on some of them. I did not modify a single word. Well, bully for you, sir. |
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Post by phludowin on Aug 4, 2018 12:28:20 GMT
If you can show me where, feel free to do so. All I did was quote parts of posts, and putting emphasis on some of them. I did not modify a single word. Well, bully for you, sir. I'll take that as a no. You can't show me where I have reading comprehension issues. I am not surprised. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 4, 2018 12:36:05 GMT
Well, bully for you, sir. I'll take that as a no. You can't show me where I have reading comprehension issues. I am not surprised. If you feel you have been wronged, you're welcome to hire yourself a good Jewish lawyer and sue me.  |
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Post by phludowin on Aug 4, 2018 12:57:38 GMT
Here's a great article about what's happening in Sweden: "Egalia, a new state-sponsored pre-school in Stockholm, is dedicated to the total obliteration of the male and female distinction. There are no boys and girls at Egalia—just "friends" and "buddies." Classic fairy tales like Cinderella and Snow White have been replaced by tales of two male giraffes who parent abandoned crocodile eggs. The Swedish Green Party would like Egalia to be the norm: It has suggested placing gender watchdogs in all of the nation's preschools. "Egalia gives [children] a fantastic opportunity to be whoever they want to be," says one excited teacher. (It is probably necessary to add that this is not an Orwellian satire or a right-wing fantasy: This school actually exists.) " You can give a boy a doll but you can't make him play with it.
Egalia exists. That's a part the article got right. The description of it is a bit exaggerated. And it also doesn't mention that there's a waiting line for this pre-school. But that's just one flaw of the Atlantic article. The scientific experiments mentioned look flawed to me. Do Rhesus monkeys build dolls and cars? I doubt it. As for Egalia: Their concept sounds interesting. But whether it's good will depend on how the children turn out. Do they like it there? Do they later become productive members of society? If yes, then Egalia is a success. Otherwise, their concept needs reworking. |
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Post by OldSamVimes on Aug 4, 2018 13:12:55 GMT
Here's a great article about what's happening in Sweden: "Egalia, a new state-sponsored pre-school in Stockholm, is dedicated to the total obliteration of the male and female distinction. There are no boys and girls at Egalia—just "friends" and "buddies." Classic fairy tales like Cinderella and Snow White have been replaced by tales of two male giraffes who parent abandoned crocodile eggs. The Swedish Green Party would like Egalia to be the norm: It has suggested placing gender watchdogs in all of the nation's preschools. "Egalia gives [children] a fantastic opportunity to be whoever they want to be," says one excited teacher. (It is probably necessary to add that this is not an Orwellian satire or a right-wing fantasy: This school actually exists.) " You can give a boy a doll but you can't make him play with it.
Egalia exists. That's a part the article got right. The description of it is a bit exaggerated. And it also doesn't mention that there's a waiting line for this pre-school. But that's just one flaw of the Atlantic article. The scientific experiments mentioned look flawed to me. Do Rhesus monkeys build dolls and cars? I doubt it. As for Egalia: Their concept sounds interesting. But whether it's good will depend on how the children turn out. Do they like it there? Do they later become productive members of society? If yes, then Egalia is a success. Otherwise, their concept needs reworking. The article also touched on a 'solution' to biological gender differences. "Biology appears to play a role. Several animal studies have shown that hormonal manipulation can reverse sex-typed behavior. When researchers exposed female rhesus monkeys to male hormones prenatally, these females later displayed male-like levels of rough-and-tumble play. Similar results are found in human beings. Congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH) is a genetic condition that results when the female fetus is subjected to unusually large quantities of male hormones—adrenal androgens. Girls with CAH tend to prefer trucks, cars, and construction sets over dolls and play tea sets. As psychologist Doreen Kimura reported in Scientific American, "These findings suggest that these preferences were actually altered in some way by the early hormonal environment." They also cast doubt on the view that gender-specific play is primarily shaped by socialization.
If we pump young children full of hormones, different ones depending on gender, we can get rid of normally occurring biological differences in the sexes!
The article also asks: "Few would deny that parents and teachers should expose children to a wide range of toys and play activities. But what the Swedes are now doing in some of their classrooms goes far beyond encouraging children to experiment with different toys and play styles—they are requiring it. And toy companies who resist the gender neutrality mandate face official censure. Is this kind of social engineering worth it? Is it even ethical?
No, it sounds like illogical fascism to me.
Some people are fine with forcing children to play in certain ways as long as it supports their political agendas... and that's morally reprehensible. |
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Post by OldSamVimes on Aug 4, 2018 13:18:09 GMT
IMO having sex at least once is one of three experiences every human being should have. I disagree. In my opinion there are no experiences any human should have. Well, of course we're all different... But I imagine you've had some experiences that made you think 'That's why I'm here, that's what being alive is all about'? Things you've experienced that make it all 'make sense', that made you feel good or were so profound you wanted to share that feeling and that experience with everyone? |
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Post by phludowin on Aug 4, 2018 15:37:19 GMT
The article also asks: "Few would deny that parents and teachers should expose children to a wide range of toys and play activities. But what the Swedes are now doing in some of their classrooms goes far beyond encouraging children to experiment with different toys and play styles— they are requiring it.That's one of the things the article got wrong. Egalia does not require kids to behave in a certain way. If boys want to play with cars, they are free to do so. And toy companies who resist the gender neutrality mandate face official censure. Is this kind of social engineering worth it? Is it even ethical? It wouldn't be, if it was happening. But not only is it not happening,... No, it sounds like illogical fascism to me. Some people are fine with forcing children to play in certain ways as long as it supports their political agendas... and that's morally reprehensible. ...this was said by a person who believes every human should have three mandatory experiences. You can't make this up. |
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Post by OldSamVimes on Aug 4, 2018 17:50:48 GMT
The article also asks: "Few would deny that parents and teachers should expose children to a wide range of toys and play activities. But what the Swedes are now doing in some of their classrooms goes far beyond encouraging children to experiment with different toys and play styles— they are requiring it.That's one of the things the article got wrong. Egalia does not require kids to behave in a certain way. If boys want to play with cars, they are free to do so. And toy companies who resist the gender neutrality mandate face official censure. Is this kind of social engineering worth it? Is it even ethical? It wouldn't be, if it was happening. But not only is it not happening,... No, it sounds like illogical fascism to me. Some people are fine with forcing children to play in certain ways as long as it supports their political agendas... and that's morally reprehensible. ...this was said by a person who believes every human should have three mandatory experiences. You can't make this up. I don't think anyone should be forced to have the experiences. You're free to die a virgin if you want to. Just don't pretend to know what you're missing if you haven't experienced it. |
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Post by OldSamVimes on Aug 4, 2018 17:57:59 GMT
A 51 year old virgin has taken issue with the fact I've said there are some things people should experience in this life...
OMG that's so awesome.
The Universe surprises me once again!
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 4, 2018 18:10:09 GMT
A 51 year old virgin has taken issue with the fact I've said there are some things people should experience in this life... OMG that's so awesome. The Universe surprises me once again! No. You behave in a manner in which it comes off as if you know better. You take your own experiences too seriously. One about sex as in this thread and the other about drugs. Hallucinations/fantasies on drugs make you believe in some other reality. But that doesn't make them objective truths. You have been sold to consumerism and herd mentality. People don't need to be taught what they should do. By very nature, humans choose what maximises their pleasure. So phludowin hasn't had sex.....OMG he is missing so much and I am surprised. Well, that feeling doesn't come in me. I expect such things in 7 billion people who live on this planet. They are different beings. |
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Post by OldSamVimes on Aug 4, 2018 18:20:51 GMT
A 51 year old virgin has taken issue with the fact I've said there are some things people should experience in this life... OMG that's so awesome. The Universe surprises me once again! No. You behave in a manner in which it comes off as if you know better. You take your own experiences too seriously. One about sex as in this thread and the other about drugs. Hallucinations/fantasies on drugs make you believe in some other reality. But that doesn't make them objective truths. You have been sold to consumerism and herd mentality. People don't need to be taught what they should do. By very nature, humans choose what maximises their pleasure. So phudowin hasn't had sex.....OMG he is missing so much and I am surprised. Well, that feeling doesn't come in me. I expect such things in 7 billion people who live on this planet. They are different beings. I never claimed to have any 'objective truths'. But here is one.. personal experience trumps uninformed opinion every time. Someone who has never experienced something cannot know for certain they aren't missing something they would enjoy. I guess I did kind of assume that because he masturbates he might, on some level, want to have sex... Perhaps when he's masturbating he might be imagining himself masturbating? Sorry about that. As you say, people are mysterious. |
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 4, 2018 18:31:35 GMT
No. You behave in a manner in which it comes off as if you know better. You take your own experiences too seriously. One about sex as in this thread and the other about drugs. Hallucinations/fantasies on drugs make you believe in some other reality. But that doesn't make them objective truths. You have been sold to consumerism and herd mentality. People don't need to be taught what they should do. By very nature, humans choose what maximises their pleasure. So phudowin hasn't had sex.....OMG he is missing so much and I am surprised. Well, that feeling doesn't come in me. I expect such things in 7 billion people who live on this planet. They are different beings. But here is one.. personal experience trumps 'informed opinion' every time. Only on personal basis. Not for others. Your experiences have zero utility for millions of others. May be there are also millions who may share your experiences or find utility in them like you do. But still there are millions who won't find one degree of happiness/contentment in the things you want others to do. The problem with your beliefs (which you don't realise) is that you take your personal experiences too seriously. While you may not have claimed your experiences as objective truth, you have been close to doing so. May be a few years ago you didn't get too convinced by your own experiences but now a days it definitely comes off as if you rank your own personal experiences too highly. Which is kind of silly. Because you or me or phludowin or for that matter almost all humans are just average beings.
There is no reason to believe that Phuldowin will be better off by having experiences you prescribe. He might actually currently be leading a more content and satisfied life than you are. There is no way of knowing that. But if that is the case then those 3 "should be experiences" that you claimed everyone should have has 0 value for him. Same for millions of other individuals.
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Post by phludowin on Aug 4, 2018 18:57:46 GMT
I never claimed to have any 'objective truths'. But here is one.. personal experience trumps uninformed opinion every time. Someone who has never experienced something cannot know for certain they aren't missing something they would enjoy. If you really mean this, then you should approve of a pre-school like Egalia. Because there, boys and girls can experience behaving in a way that is not stereotypical. And maybe there are boys who enjoy playing with dolls, and girls who enjoy playing with cars. And Egalia encourages them, unlike some other pre-schools. Do you? We can even go one step further: Maybe some people would enjoy hormone therapy, and becoming more of another gender. Would you approve of them? If you never had hormone therapy, your opinion is uninformed, to use your words. Or are you just caught in a binary gender-stereotyping, and human stereotyping of behaviours? I will choose what to believe; but your posting history on various subjects lets me assume that there might be more truth to the latter, than to you approving of Egalia.
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 4, 2018 19:06:30 GMT
I never claimed to have any 'objective truths'. But here is one.. personal experience trumps uninformed opinion every time. Someone who has never experienced something cannot know for certain they aren't missing something they would enjoy. If you really mean this, then you should approve of a pre-school like Egalia. Because there, boys and girls can experience behaving in a way that is not stereotypical. And maybe there are boys who enjoy playing with dolls, and girls who enjoy playing with cars. And Egalia encourages them, unlike some other pre-schools. Do you? We can even go one step further: Maybe some people would enjoy hormone therapy, and becoming more of another gender. Would you approve of them? If you never had hormone therapy, your opinion is uninformed, to use your words. Or are you just caught in a binary gender-stereotyping, and human stereotyping of behaviours? I will choose what to believe; but your posting history on various subjects lets me assume that there might be more truth to the latter, than to you approving of Egalia.
This injecting a lot of hormone seems like one of those gay conversion therapies. For years many people thought (some still do) that gays can be made straight as if homosexuality is some disease. |
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