Deleted
Deleted Member
@Deleted
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 3:48:48 GMT
... fault. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
|
|
|
|
Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 16, 2018 3:57:16 GMT
Check it out. This chump is trying to say everything that happens is God's will.
|
|
|
|
Post by kls on Sept 16, 2018 3:59:55 GMT
Check it out. This chump is trying to say everything that happens is God's will. Seriously. Anyone who says that isn't acknowledging free will that we have. |
|
|
|
Post by permutojoe on Sept 16, 2018 4:34:14 GMT
Check it out. This chump is trying to say everything that happens is God's will. Seriously. Anyone who says that isn't acknowledging free will that we have. Doesn't an all powerful being preclude the existence of autonomous actors? Wouldn't an APB be the cause of everything? |
|
|
|
Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 16, 2018 4:37:38 GMT
Seriously. Anyone who says that isn't acknowledging free will that we have. Doesn't an all powerful being preclude the existence of autonomous actors? Wouldn't an APB be the cause of everything? Why? It was God's will that the Tower of Babel not be finished, but if it were God's will alone the Tower of Babel would have never been started, yes? |
|
|
|
Post by permutojoe on Sept 16, 2018 4:49:45 GMT
Doesn't an all powerful being preclude the existence of autonomous actors? Wouldn't an APB be the cause of everything? Why? It was God's will that the Tower of Babel not be finished, but if it were God's will alone the Tower of Babel would have never been started, yes? Did you just prove that Yahweh could not possible exist?  |
|
|
|
Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 16, 2018 4:53:30 GMT
Why? It was God's will that the Tower of Babel not be finished, but if it were God's will alone the Tower of Babel would have never been started, yes? Did you just prove that Yahweh could not possible exist? No. And when you're using possible as an adjective, it's possibly, not possible. |
|
|
|
Post by permutojoe on Sept 16, 2018 4:56:54 GMT
Did you just prove that Yahweh could not possible exist? No. And when you're using possible as an adjective, it's possibly, not possible. Are you saying Yahweh was using poetic license when he created all these other little mini-gods? |
|
|
|
Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 16, 2018 5:04:31 GMT
No. And when you're using possible as an adjective, it's possibly, not possible. Are you saying Yahweh was using poetic license when he created all these other little mini-gods? I never said He created them as little mini-gods. I believe He created them as angels, and they rebelled, were thrown down to earth, and set themselves up as little mini-gods. The Muslim narrative, in which angels are said to have no free will, is a little different. |
|
|
|
Post by permutojoe on Sept 16, 2018 5:16:34 GMT
Are you saying Yahweh was using poetic license when he created all these other little mini-gods? I never said He created them as little mini-gods. I believe He created them as angels, and they rebelled, were thrown down to earth, and set themselves up as little mini-gods. The Muslim narrative, in which angels are said to have no free will, is a little different. Yeah I heard the Muslim angels still have to wear burkas. |
|
|
|
Post by kls on Sept 16, 2018 9:51:15 GMT
Seriously. Anyone who says that isn't acknowledging free will that we have. So what is free will then. If its not Gods, whose is it? Every individual human being has the freedom to make his or her own choices. |
|
|
|
Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 16, 2018 11:44:17 GMT
Every individual human being has the freedom to make his or her own choices. That's right! The Christian notion of God has nothing to do with it. Did she say that? Or did you say that? |
|
|
|
Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 16, 2018 11:50:24 GMT
Did she say that? Or did you say that? That is what I said and what kls said as well, I just added a bit more. It is ALL free will and nothing to do with God in the Christian context. We all use our free will to be our own God and Creator.
If you don't mind I'll wait for kls's reply. And if you do mind, I'll still wait for it.  |
|
|
|
Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 16, 2018 11:55:01 GMT
If you don't mind I'll wait for kls's reply. And if you do mind, I'll still wait for it. Righty O! Will you be holding your breath for my reply?  No. You're not worth a breath-hold. |
|
|
|
Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 16, 2018 12:10:26 GMT
No. You're not worth a breath-hold. Now what will Jesus think of your intolerance?
Since you don't believe in Jesus your stupid question is irrelevant, Bucky. |
|
|
|
Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 16, 2018 12:22:24 GMT
Since you don't believe in Jesus your stupid question is irrelevant, Bucky. But what you believe in, and Jesus was about tolerance and acceptance, don't you think it is stupid of you to deny his true teachings? Does this just prove more double standards and hypocrisy of the selective deluded Christian Bucky? What I believe is none of your fucking business and never will be, Bucky. |
|
|
|
Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 16, 2018 12:57:05 GMT
What I believe is none of your fucking business and never will be, Bucky. Ohhhh! The hostility when getting called out. I guess you have been pegged Bucky. Whatever you have to tell yourself, gay boy. |
|
|
|
Post by phludowin on Sept 16, 2018 16:30:35 GMT
Check it out. This chump is trying to say everything that happens is God's will. Check it out. This chump The Herald Erjen is trying to say that two is not a prime number. A nonsensical statement? Yes. As nonsensical as the one that I have quoted. |
|
|
|
Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 16, 2018 21:21:01 GMT
Check it out. This chump is trying to say everything that happens is God's will. Check it out. This chump The Herald Erjen is trying to say that two is not a prime number. A nonsensical statement? Yes. As nonsensical as the one that I have quoted. I said two is not a prime number? I said that? What I remember saying is that in school we were taught that one was the first prime number, but somewhere along the line one had its prime number status revoked, just as Pluto had its planetary status revoked. |
|
|
|
Post by gadreel on Sept 16, 2018 21:30:03 GMT
IF god created the universe, then it created everything in it and is responsible for that depending a little on how much you think it knew things were going to turn out, IF god is omnipresent (with no limit on the passage of time) then yes everything God did was done in the knowledge that it would cause bad things in the end (at least from our point of view).
But the bottom line is that IF you believe God created everything, then at the end of the day God is responsible for everything, you just need to assign culpability based on how much you think God is in control.
|
|
