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Post by ThatGuy on Nov 11, 2018 18:39:53 GMT
Bruce Wayne doesn't invent or create those gadgets. Lucious Fox does. Who played Fox in the DCEU films? Even still, Bruce created the cowl for the suit. And everything else besides the cape, breast plate and belt. And wasn't there a scene with him creating the batarangs? That had to be the 1st one he carved out because Alfred saw it and asked him about them being bats. They kept showing scenes of Lucius showing him a new thing, but they didn't show the bat pod. So did Bruce put that in the front of the tumbler? It wasn't explained that it was there in Batman Begins.
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 11, 2018 18:57:25 GMT
Except the MCU has no Mary Sues. Shuri is a Mary Sue character. Captain Marvel will probably be a Mary Sue character too.. Like I said, you don't seem to know what a Mary Sue is. Can you define what a mary sue is and what makes Shuri a mary sue?
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 11, 2018 18:58:17 GMT
So again I ask, why would she need to go abroad for studies when it's clear they had more knowledge back home (at least in regards to what she was shown to be good at)? And I ask again, how the fuck does Shuri not only become an expert at metallurgy chemistry but also an expert at human physiology to know exactly what was wrong with Ross and how to heal his wounds when other doctors couldn't do it? The answer: Because Shuri is a Mary Sue character.Because obviously Shuri had training for it. Nobody is born just knowing all these things. Wherever you bought your common sense, please ask for a refund.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Nov 11, 2018 18:59:44 GMT
A million years ago, there was no human on earth who had knowledge about machinery. When the Wakandans first found the vibranium, there was no one else to ask. It's almost like you're saying that these wakandans were incapable of developing stuff on their own. No, they didn't need the help of other nations when they were already the most advanced nation around. Remember that China developed advanced metallurgy way before North America did, so it's not like they needed to cross study with them. Now did modern day Wakandans study outside for further knowledge? Sure, why not? That still doesn't change the fact that they're far more advanced than other countries and Shuri would have no need to study in an outside university for her knowledge. When you're already in the most advanced country in the world, why bother studying somewhere else? Thanks for proving how bad the writing in Black Panther is. It's impossible for Wakanda (or any country) to develop expertise on vibranium or any element not from Earth without extensive research and testing. And extensive research and testing requires lots of scientific equipment and labs. And scientific equipment and labs require lots of money to acquire or build. Money that an African country like Wakanda wouldn't have had. So NO, it's IMPOSSIBLE for Wakanda to become experts on vibranium without any help from other countries. This is just another example of bad writing in MCU movies.Your life must be really lacking to be trolling all the time on here.
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 11, 2018 19:01:38 GMT
A million years ago, there was no human on earth who had knowledge about machinery. When the Wakandans first found the vibranium, there was no one else to ask. It's almost like you're saying that these wakandans were incapable of developing stuff on their own. No, they didn't need the help of other nations when they were already the most advanced nation around. Remember that China developed advanced metallurgy way before North America did, so it's not like they needed to cross study with them. Now did modern day Wakandans study outside for further knowledge? Sure, why not? That still doesn't change the fact that they're far more advanced than other countries and Shuri would have no need to study in an outside university for her knowledge. When you're already in the most advanced country in the world, why bother studying somewhere else? Thanks for proving how bad the writing in Black Panther is. It's impossible for Wakanda (or any country) to develop expertise on vibranium or any element not from Earth without extensive research and testing. And extensive research and testing requires lots of scientific equipment and labs. And scientific equipment and labs require lots of money to acquire or build. Money that an African country like Wakanda wouldn't have had. So NO, it's IMPOSSIBLE for Wakanda to become experts on vibranium without any help from other countries. This is just another example of bad writing in MCU movies.So what you're saying is, other countries can be experts on vibranium but not Wakanda. Why do you say that? Is it because they're African?
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Nov 11, 2018 19:07:30 GMT
Of course the “real science hypothesis that has depth” can not possibly explain the wide variety of fantastical (and often ridiculous) charactors depicted in X-men. Anyone who thinks the X-men is based on “real science” must be completely daft in the head. I said Science hypothesis like another standard good science fiction series like say maybe star trek. yikes...once again mcu fans show their stupidity. Sheesh, Nancy, no need to get your panties in a bunch over a movie.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 11, 2018 19:22:12 GMT
Thanks for proving how bad the writing in Black Panther is. It's impossible for Wakanda (or any country) to develop expertise on vibranium or any element not from Earth without extensive research and testing. And extensive research and testing requires lots of scientific equipment and labs. And scientific equipment and labs require lots of money to acquire or build. Money that an African country like Wakanda wouldn't have had. So NO, it's IMPOSSIBLE for Wakanda to become experts on vibranium without any help from other countries. This is just another example of bad writing in MCU movies.So what you're saying is, other countries can be experts on vibranium but not Wakanda. Yes Why do you say that? Is it because they're African? Because, like I said in my previous post, becoming an expert on elements from outside of Earth requires plenty of research and testing, which requires plenty of expensive scientific equipment and state-of-the-art laboratories, which requires a lot of money, which Wakanda wouldn't have.
It's similar to asking why aren't any African countries on the list of participating countries for the International Space Station? Because having a space program and astronauts requires a lot of money, which they don't have.
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 11, 2018 19:43:43 GMT
Because, like I said in my previous post, becoming an expert on elements from outside of Earth requires plenty of research and testing, which requires plenty of expensive scientific equipment and state-of-the-art laboratories, which requires a lot of money, which Wakanda wouldn't have.
It's similar to asking why aren't any African countries on the list of participating countries for the International Space Station? Because having a space program and astronauts requires a lot of money, which they don't have.I'm sorry, but did you just claim that Wakanda does not have expensive scientific equipment, state of the art laboratories and lots of money? Jeeze DC-Fan, you just proved again that you clearly have not watched Black Panther. Wakanda having no money?? Hah! Man, are you stupid.
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Post by summers8 on Nov 11, 2018 19:59:31 GMT
I said Science hypothesis like another standard good science fiction series like say maybe star trek. yikes...once again mcu fans show their stupidity. What, and you think the MCU doesn't have it's own pseudo science hypothesis just like Star Trek? Yikes... once again Summers8 shows his stupidity. the massive difference is in xmen you know how cerebro works with xavier being a psyche. this has been shown in X1, X2, X3, DOFP, FC and with each movie their are major hints of what cerebro does and how it can be used,vibranum is just there, there is no substance to it, no real explantation of what it does or why it works.
In DOFP, the very first time xavier tries to use cebero, he couldn't because he was not emotionally stable and thus he could not use it. he even linked his heart to cerebro, saying his power comes from his heart and its broken thus affecting cerebro, since it requires focus.
In X2, Cerebro was the main catalyst of wiping out humanity since the machine enhances psyche powers..oh and without needing to blow cities up like you see in your mcu movies.mcu is pseudo at best because there is no background or actual depth to anything they do. infact, this is the main criticism james cameron had with GOTG and he was right.
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Post by summers8 on Nov 11, 2018 20:01:59 GMT
Except the MCU has no Mary Sues. Shuri is a Mary Sue character. Captain Marvel will probably be a Mary Sue character too.. mcu fans should shows us video of shuri studying?
she is afterall smarter than tony.
that's the thing with mcu, their movies don't want to do the hard work.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 11, 2018 20:05:16 GMT
Because, like I said in my previous post, becoming an expert on elements from outside of Earth requires plenty of research and testing, which requires plenty of expensive scientific equipment and state-of-the-art laboratories, which requires a lot of money, which Wakanda wouldn't have.
It's similar to asking why aren't any African countries on the list of participating countries for the International Space Station? Because having a space program and astronauts requires a lot of money, which they don't have.I'm sorry, but did you just claim that Wakanda does not have expensive scientific equipment, state of the art laboratories and lots of money? Jeeze DC-Fan, you just proved again that you clearly have not watched Black Panther. Wakanda having no money?? Yes, Wakanda has no money. A country gains wealth by: 1. Collecting taxes from its citizens. 2. Selling products or natural resources to other countries. 3. Conquering other countries and looting their treasury. Wakanda doesn't sell products or natural resources to other countries so #2 is out. Wakanda probably doesn't have a large population so they won't collect much taxes. So that leaves #3 as the only way for Wakanda to raise a lot of money. So are you saying that Wakanda conquers other countries and loots their treasuries?
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 11, 2018 20:09:24 GMT
I'm sorry, but did you just claim that Wakanda does not have expensive scientific equipment, state of the art laboratories and lots of money? Jeeze DC-Fan, you just proved again that you clearly have not watched Black Panther. Wakanda having no money?? Yes, Wakanda has no money. A country gains wealth by: 1. Collecting taxes from its citizens. 2. Selling products or natural resources to other countries. 3. Conquering other countries and looting their treasury. Wakanda doesn't sell products or natural resources to other countries so #2 is out. Wakanda probably doesn't have a large population so they won't collect much taxes. So that leaves #3 as the only way for Wakanda to raise a lot of money. So are you saying that Wakanda conquers other countries and loots their treasuries? Uhuh. And I noticed you didn't defend how you said Wakanda doesn't have expensive scientific equipment, state of the art laboratories and lots of money? Are you conveniently ignoring that?
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 11, 2018 20:13:09 GMT
Yes, Wakanda has no money. A country gains wealth by: 1. Collecting taxes from its citizens. 2. Selling products or natural resources to other countries. 3. Conquering other countries and looting their treasury. Wakanda doesn't sell products or natural resources to other countries so #2 is out. Wakanda probably doesn't have a large population so they won't collect much taxes. So that leaves #3 as the only way for Wakanda to raise a lot of money. So are you saying that Wakanda conquers other countries and loots their treasuries? Uhuh. And I noticed you didn't defend how you said Wakanda doesn't have expensive scientific equipment, state of the art laboratories and lots of money? Are you conveniently ignoring that? I just answered the question. Wakanda doesn't have the best scientific equipment or stat-of-the-art laboratories for studying and testing the vibranium because Wakanda doesn't have the money required to acquire or build those things. It's similar to asking why aren't there any African countries on the list pf participating countries for the International Space Station? Because having a space program and astronauts requires a lot of money, which they don't have. Likewise, having the best scientific equipment and state-of-the-art laboratories requires a lot of money, which Wakanda doesn't have.
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Post by scabab on Nov 11, 2018 20:19:00 GMT
And no, having possession of a ring or a tattoo isn't scientific proof since anyone could've taken the ring or gotten a tattoo. Having just the ring or just the tattoo wouldn't be enough. They'd need the ring, the tattoo, the ability and the knowledge combined. But either way there doesn't need to be scientific proof. This isn't real life and these aren't real people. Its a movie and the plot device they came up with worked for what they were trying to do. It wouldn't really matter at all whether we believe it or not. There is no such character, there was no mention of any friend in the black ops so it doesn't play a factor into it. That wasn't part of Killmongers character or history for the movie. He doesn't seem like the friend type either.
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 11, 2018 20:25:19 GMT
Uhuh. And I noticed you didn't defend how you said Wakanda doesn't have expensive scientific equipment, state of the art laboratories and lots of money? Are you conveniently ignoring that? I just answered the question. Wakanda doesn't have the best scientific equipment or stat-of-the-art laboratories for studying and testing the vibranium because Wakanda doesn't have the money required to acquire or build those things. It's similar to asking why aren't there any African countries on the list pf participating countries for the International Space Station? Because having a space program and astronauts requires a lot of money, which they don't have. Likewise, having the best scientific equipment and state-of-the-art laboratories requires a lot of money, which Wakanda doesn't have. Ok, there are only 2 reasons you could be this stupid. 1. You didn't watch the movie, and so missed the part where T'Challa bought an entire block in the U.S. or where they showcased all of their high tech machinery, gadgets, planes and weaponry Or 2. You are one seriously racist ass who thinks that just because Wakanda is in Africa they must not have advanced technology or wealth. So, which one are you?
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Post by damngumby on Nov 11, 2018 20:33:01 GMT
Anyone who has seen the movies know that they do have money. No doubt Wakanda is also rich in terrestrial precious metals and gems, like many countries in Africa. What they don’t have is the crippling strife that has hobbled so much of Africa. Your no money argument is as dumb as the rest.
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Post by kleinreturns on Nov 11, 2018 23:58:30 GMT
From the FOX-Men movies where did Prof. X or what university did he publish his papers??? Or what university did Hank McCoy publish papers or get his Ph.D from to create Cerebro or the Mutant virus cure that also heals cripples and allows them to miraculously walk again??? Prof X went to Oxford university in First Class and Hank McCoy was said to have graduated Harvad at 15. Where did they publish papers then??? What degree subjects did both Xavier have along with Hank McCoy for them to even attempt to build let alone achieve making Cerebro, or the Blackbird or bio chemical compounds to not only remove mutants of their mutations (despite First Class specifically claiming that no one even knew about mutants in the first place for any such research to even exist or be a basis for making a cure) but also cure cripples and allow them to walk...
It's like Prof. X who also seems to teach poetry/literature which gave him the background to build a mind reading device of Cerebro along with Hank who in addition to being a mechanical engineer an aeronautical engineer (build a super aircraft, Blackbird) AND also a geneticist and a biochemist who can cure cripples and remove mutant powers (like telepathy for Prof. X) are Gary Stu's, right??? Funny how you FOX-Men fans don't have a problem with that at all....
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Post by summers8 on Nov 12, 2018 6:11:01 GMT
Prof X went to Oxford university in First Class and Hank McCoy was said to have graduated Harvad at 15. Where did they publish papers then??? What degree subjects did both Xavier have along with Hank McCoy for them to even attempt to build let alone achieve making Cerebro, or the Blackbird or bio chemical compounds to not only remove mutants of their mutations (despite First Class specifically claiming that no one even knew about mutants in the first place for any such research to even exist or be a basis for making a cure) but also cure cripples and allow them to walk...
It's like Prof. X who also seems to teach poetry/literature which gave him the background to build a mind reading device of Cerebro along with Hank who in addition to being a mechanical engineer an aeronautical engineer (build a super aircraft, Blackbird) AND also a geneticist and a biochemist who can cure cripples and remove mutant powers (like telepathy for Prof. X) are Gary Stu's, right??? Funny how you FOX-Men fans don't have a problem with that at all....
xmen for mcu dummies.
he published his papers at oxford university. the degree subject was in genetics and mutation as confirmed in DOFP..
blackbird is like another military ship or air vessel,
beast built cerebro in FC because he was a smart ass and that was shown through out first class, down to the cure syrum he created.
and laslty xavier built a mind device because he himself was a psyche as implied by X-Men 1.
the difference is X-Men movies does provide the foundation for their science fiction, the only mcu movie that has that is iron man 1 and this was when mcu has some brain.
poor klienreturns, look at the struggle he is doing to make xmen seem dumb as mcu movies. sorry. does not work.
at the end of the day it is more far more believable that Xavier and beast as smart than shuri is smart
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Post by summers8 on Nov 12, 2018 6:12:48 GMT
Uhuh. And I noticed you didn't defend how you said Wakanda doesn't have expensive scientific equipment, state of the art laboratories and lots of money? Are you conveniently ignoring that? I just answered the question. Wakanda doesn't have the best scientific equipment or stat-of-the-art laboratories for studying and testing the vibranium because Wakanda doesn't have the money required to acquire or build those things. It's similar to asking why aren't there any African countries on the list pf participating countries for the International Space Station? Because having a space program and astronauts requires a lot of money, which they don't have. Likewise, having the best scientific equipment and state-of-the-art laboratories requires a lot of money, which Wakanda doesn't have. Wakanda's problem is vibranuim with no little explanation.thank goodness this is a black film that no one could dare criticise, if not a person like james cameron would have torn the movies to shreds since black panther is a worse science fiction film than GOTG,
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 12, 2018 6:14:21 GMT
Where did they publish papers then??? What degree subjects did both Xavier have along with Hank McCoy for them to even attempt to build let alone achieve making Cerebro, or the Blackbird or bio chemical compounds to not only remove mutants of their mutations (despite First Class specifically claiming that no one even knew about mutants in the first place for any such research to even exist or be a basis for making a cure) but also cure cripples and allow them to walk...
It's like Prof. X who also seems to teach poetry/literature which gave him the background to build a mind reading device of Cerebro along with Hank who in addition to being a mechanical engineer an aeronautical engineer (build a super aircraft, Blackbird) AND also a geneticist and a biochemist who can cure cripples and remove mutant powers (like telepathy for Prof. X) are Gary Stu's, right??? Funny how you FOX-Men fans don't have a problem with that at all....
xmen for mcu dummies.
he published his papers at oxford university. the degree subject was in genetics and mutation as confirmed in DOFP..
blackbird is like another military ship or air vessel,
beast built cerebro in FC because he was a smart ass and that was shown through out first class, down to the cure syrum he created.
and laslty xavier built a mind device because he himself was a psyche as implied by X-Men 1.
the difference is X-Men movies does provide the foundation for their science fiction, the only mcu movie that has that is iron man 1 and this was when mcu has some brain.
poor klienreturns, look at the struggle he is doing to make xmen seem dumb as mcu movies. sorry. does not work.
at the end of the day it is more far more believable that Xavier and beast as smart than shuri is smart
kleinreturns just got owned!
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