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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 26, 2019 22:55:22 GMT
I didn't make it up. Banner confirmed it in Endgame. No he didn't. Please quote exactly what Banner said where he supposedly confirms that someone can't change the future. Banner confirmed it in Endgame when he said they couldn't change the past. So Banner confirmed that everything in MCU is already pre-determined and set in stone and no one has any free will to choose a different path.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 26, 2019 23:04:15 GMT
She still has to choose that path. It's similar to ... ... those carnival rides for little kiddies, where the car can weave back and forth along a fixed track, but the destination is always the same. If you're destine to do something in the DCEU, you will eventually do it. You have no choice. That is what destiny means. Once again, you've proven that you don't understand simple concepts. Destiny doesn't mean it's set in stone. If it were set in stone, then there would've been no reason for Andromeda to be chained to the rock to be sacrificed to the Kraken because Perseus' destiny was to defeat the Kraken. But Perseus still has the free will whether or not to choose to face the Kraken and the people of Argos don't know for sure (1) if Perseus would choose to face the Kraken and (2) if Perseus can even defeat the Kraken, since no one and nothing had been able to defeat the Kraken yet. Heck, if Perseus had made just 1 mistake against Medusa, then Perseus would've been turned to stone and wouldn't have even gotten the chance to face the Kraken.
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Post by damngumby on Jun 26, 2019 23:28:21 GMT
No he didn't. Please quote exactly what Banner said where he supposedly confirms that someone can't change the future. Banner confirmed it in Endgame when he said they couldn't change the past. So Banner confirmed that everything in MCU is already pre-determined and set in stone and no one has any free will to choose a different path. past ≠ future duh
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 26, 2019 23:35:21 GMT
Banner confirmed it in Endgame when he said they couldn't change the past. So Banner confirmed that everything in MCU is already pre-determined and set in stone and no one has any free will to choose a different path. past ≠ future duh WOW! You still don't understand it. When Banner said they couldn't change the past, that also means they can't change the present or the future. So Banner confirmed that EVERYTHING in MCU is already pre-determined and set in stone and no one has any free will to choose a different path.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 26, 2019 23:36:45 GMT
No he didn't. Please quote exactly what Banner said where he supposedly confirms that someone can't change the future. Banner confirmed it in Endgame when he said they couldn't change the past. So Banner confirmed that everything in MCU is already pre-determined and set in stone and no one has any free will to choose a different path. Changing the past is not the same as changing the future. Please go to the store and buy yourself some common sense and comprehension skills. So again, where exactly was it said in the MCU that the characters are unable to change their futures?
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 26, 2019 23:40:48 GMT
Banner confirmed it in Endgame when he said they couldn't change the past. So Banner confirmed that everything in MCU is already pre-determined and set in stone and no one has any free will to choose a different path. Changing the past is not the same as changing the future. Please go to the store and buy yourself some common sense and comprehension skills. So again, where exactly was it said in the MCU that the characters are unable to change their futures? Banner confirmed the future can't be changed when he said in Endgame that they can't change the past. And Yes, if the past can't be changed, then that automatically means the present and the future can't be changed. So that means EVERYTHING in MCU is already pre-determined and set in stone and no one has any free will to choose a different path.It's such a simple concept that it's simply astonishing that you MCU fans don't understand that simple concept.
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Post by damngumby on Jun 26, 2019 23:42:30 GMT
... those carnival rides for little kiddies, where the car can weave back and forth along a fixed track, but the destination is always the same. If you're destine to do something in the DCEU, you will eventually do it. You have no choice. That is what destiny means. Once again, you've proven that you don't understand simple concepts. Destiny doesn't mean it's set in stone. Yes it does. Dictionaries are now online. Try using one. In a universe where destiny is a thing, free will is an illusion. Like the child on the kiddie ride who thinks they are actually steering the car. Sorry, you fucked up again! LOL!
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 26, 2019 23:44:41 GMT
Changing the past is not the same as changing the future. Please go to the store and buy yourself some common sense and comprehension skills. So again, where exactly was it said in the MCU that the characters are unable to change their futures? Banner confirmed the future can't be changed when he said in Endgame that they can't change the past. And Yes, if the past can't be changed, then that automatically means the present and the future can't be changed. So that means EVERYTHING in MCU is already pre-determined and set in stone and no one has any free will to choose a different path.It's such a simple concept that it's simply astonishing that you MCU fans don't understand that simple concept. Nope. You're just plain wrong. The past is completely different from the present or future, period. Only a complete idiot would continue to insist otherwise. Are you a complete idiot? No human being alive today has the ability to change their past. Are you therefore claiming that no human being can alter their future?
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Post by damngumby on Jun 26, 2019 23:48:41 GMT
WOW! You still don't understand it. When Banner said they couldn't change the past, that also means they can't change the present or the future. No it doesn't. Can you change the past? No. Can you change the future? Yes. QED. LOL!
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 27, 2019 0:02:41 GMT
Are you therefore claiming that no human being can alter their future? Banner is claiming that no one can alter their future. Because Banner confirmed in Endgame that EVERYTHING is already pre-determined and set in stone and thus no one has any free will to change their path. Don't blame me for that. That's how the Endgame writers wrote it. You're just plain wrong. The past is completely different to the present or future, period. To insist otherwise just continues to prove your utter stupidity. Like I said, don't blame me for that. That's how the Endgame writers wrote it. Banner confirmed that they can't change the past. So that automatically means that the present and future also can't be changed and are already pre-determined and set in stone and thus no one has any free will to change their path. Because (and it's simply astonishing that you MCU fans still don't understand this simple concept) past, present, and future are all just relative points. 1 person's future is another person's past. So when Banner says that the Avengers in 2023 can't change things in 2018, then that also means that someone in 2028 can't change things in 2023 and someone in 2033 can't change things in 2028. So according to Banner (and the Endgame writers), EVERYTHING in MCU is already pre-determined and set in stone and no one has any free will to change their path. This is the same reason why Strange's so-called "winning" scenario is actually a losing scenario. Because past Nebula was accessing 2023 Nebula's memories at a specific point in time. Well, if past Nebula can access 2023 Nebula's memories at a specific point in time, then past Nebula can also access 2023 Nebula's memories an hour beyond that specific point in time. Because to past Nebula, those memories are just memories at 2 different points in time and there was no barrier established as to how far ahead in time past Nebula can access future Nebula's memories. Sure, for the audience viewing the movie for the 1st time, they don't know how Thanos would be defeated in 2023 until they reach the end of the movie. But past Nebula already knows how Thanos would be defeated long before we see the end of the movie because past Nebula doesn't have to access 2023 Nebula's memories linearly and can jump to any point in 2023 Nebula's memories. Like I explained before, it's similar to watching a movie for the 1st time in a theater vs watching a movie on DVD. In a theater, you have to watch each scene linearly from beginning to end so you don't know how it's going to end until you've gone through the beginning and the middle all the way to the end. On a DVD, you can access the end of the movie without having to go through the beginning or the middle. So like I said, 2023 Nebula's memories are just future points in time for past Nebula so past Nebula can access 2023 Nebula's memories at any point in time. Thus past Nebula would already know how Thanos is defeated in 2023 and that means past Thanos would also know. So past Thanos wouldn't have jumped to 2023 with his entire army and instead just jumped to 2018 and killed Tony Stark right after Strange gave Thanos the time stone in 2018. So Strange's so-called "winning" scenario is actually a losing scenario. That's a HUGE PLOTHOLE in Endgame.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 27, 2019 0:08:36 GMT
WOW! You still don't understand it. When Banner said they couldn't change the past, that also means they can't change the present or the future. No it doesn't. Can you change the past? No. Can you change the future? Yes. According to Banner (and the Endgame writers), no one can change the future. Don't blame me for that. That's how the Endgame writers wrote it. So if you have a complaint with that, then take that up with the Endgame writers.
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Post by poelzig on Jun 27, 2019 0:50:24 GMT
With how much death and destruction we've seen in both MCU and DCEU, neither honestly. Good thing there's no death or destruction in the real world, right?
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Post by damngumby on Jun 27, 2019 0:50:41 GMT
No it doesn't. Can you change the past? No. Can you change the future? Yes. According to Banner (and the Endgame writers), no on can change the future. They never said that. The MCU has its own rules of time travel. Your made up rules of time travel do not apply. That is why you are wrong.
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Post by damngumby on Jun 27, 2019 0:53:28 GMT
With how much death and destruction we've seen in both MCU and DCEU, neither honestly. Good thing there's no death or destruction in the real world, right? Obviously, there is less in the real world. Did that really sail completely over your head?
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Post by poelzig on Jun 27, 2019 1:00:23 GMT
Good thing there's no death or destruction in the real world, right? Obviously, there is less in the real world. Did that really sail completely over your head? Considering everyone magically comes back to life in the comic book movies I would disagree. Did that really sail completely over your head in your rush to defend one of your mcu pals?
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Post by dazz on Jun 27, 2019 1:07:13 GMT
WOW! You still don't understand it. When Banner said they couldn't change the past, that also means they can't change the present or the future. So Banner confirmed that EVERYTHING in MCU is already pre-determined and set in stone and no one has any free will to choose a different path. NO!!!
You utterly fucking braindead idiot, Banner says they cannot change THEIR past, because changing that changes the present which causes the current versions of themselves to CEASE TO EXIST, they can technically do that in theory, but doing so simply creates a time loop where they do not move past, as I have said this is why there are DIFFERENT theories on time travel, the most basic simplification for a nimrod like you is this verion 1 a FIXED Timeline is one where time cannot be altered, what you do in the past is what has always happened, it's predestined, this is the Terminator 1 style of time travel mechanics, version 2 is a DYNAMIC timeline one where changes you make in the past weren't always present but the changes cause ripples and can lead to major alterations to time and cause you to cease to exist, as in the BTTF time travel method, then there is the MULTIVERSE theory or a BRANCHING timeline, in this you cannot change YOUR OWN history, you can travel to the past but doing so and then changing things creates a new timeline, you cannot change your past because doing so causes the current version of you to CEASE TO EXIST, but by branching timelines you can mess with the past and not alter your future this is the style used in Endgame and DBZ/Super.
There are other variations but those are like the main 3 you often see.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 27, 2019 1:07:54 GMT
According to Banner (and the Endgame writers), no one can change the future. They never said that. Banner confirmed that in Endgame. The MCU has its own rules of time travel. And that's what I'm going by. Like I said, according to Banner (and the Endgame writers), in MCU EVERYTHING is already pre-determined and set in stone and no one can change it so no one in MCU has any free will to choose their own path. Like I said, I didn't make that up. That's how the Endgame writers chose to write it. So if you have a complaint with that, then thake that up with the Endgame writers.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 27, 2019 1:08:59 GMT
Obviously, there is less in the real world. Did that really sail completely over your head? Considering everyone magically comes back to life in the comic book movies I would disagree. Did that really sail completely over your head in your rush to defend one of your mcu pals? damngumby just got owned!
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 27, 2019 1:13:58 GMT
WOW! You still don't understand it. When Banner said they couldn't change the past, that also means they can't change the present or the future. So Banner confirmed that EVERYTHING in MCU is already pre-determined and set in stone and no one has any free will to choose a different path. NO!!!
You utterly fucking braindead idiot, Banner says they cannot change THEIR past, because changing that changes the present which causes the current versions of themselves to CEASE TO EXIST, they can technically do that in theory, but doing so simply creates a time loop where they do not move past, as I have said this is why there are DIFFERENT theories on time travel, the most basic simplification for a nimrod like you is this verion 1 a FIXED Timeline is one where time cannot be altered, what you do in the past is what has always happened, it's predestined
And that confirms what I said. That is all pre-determined. Banner said they can't change the past. So that automatically means they can't change the present or the future either. Because the present and future to someone in 2023 is the past to someone in 2028 or 2033. So if someone in 2023 can't change something in 2018, then that automatically means someone in 2028 can't change something in 2023 and someone in 2033 can't change something in 2028. It's simply astonishing that so many MCU fans still don't understand that simple concept. So according to Banner (and the Endgame writers), in MCU EVERYTHING is already pre-determined and set in stone and no one has the free will to choose a different path. Like I said, don't blame me for that. That's how the Endgame writers chose to write it. So if you have a complaint with that, then take that up with the Endgame writers.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jun 27, 2019 1:20:41 GMT
Man, even FilmGob wouldn't want anything to do with you DC-Fan...
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