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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Oct 15, 2019 22:11:44 GMT
Steve Carlton was the best pitcher in the game for several years, winning 4 Cy Youngs along the way. Schmidt In 80-81 was at his peak. During the Broad Street Bully days a case could be made for Bobby Clarke or Bernie Parent. Maybe Parent, not Clarke. Clarke wasn't even the best forward on his own team. Reggie Leach, Rick MacLeish and Billy Barber were the far better players. Carlton played while Seaver and Palmer and even Ryan were white hot. Carlton was not the hands down best pitcher. Plus Dock Ellis threw a no hitter while tripping out on LSD. Did Carlton ever achieve that? Schmidt? Never liked him at all so I can't be honest about him. But I never considered him like a LeBron or a Lawrence Taylor or a Gretzky. If Carlton wasn’t the best in 72 then you’re not familiar with that season. |
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Post by millar70 on Oct 15, 2019 22:18:03 GMT
Maybe Parent, not Clarke. Clarke wasn't even the best forward on his own team. Reggie Leach, Rick MacLeish and Billy Barber were the far better players. Carlton played while Seaver and Palmer and even Ryan were white hot. Carlton was not the hands down best pitcher. Plus Dock Ellis threw a no hitter while tripping out on LSD. Did Carlton ever achieve that? Schmidt? Never liked him at all so I can't be honest about him. But I never considered him like a LeBron or a Lawrence Taylor or a Gretzky. If Carlton wasn’t the best in 72 then you’re not familiar with that season. Give him a few minutes to Google "Steve Carlton 1972".... |
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Post by marco26 on Oct 15, 2019 22:29:55 GMT
If Carlton wasn’t the best in 72 then you’re not familiar with that season. I could tell you this, no matter what Carlton did in '72 it doesn't match what Guidry did in '78. Or Doc in '85.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Oct 15, 2019 22:33:09 GMT
No
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Post by fjenkins on Oct 15, 2019 22:45:47 GMT
I'm an SF Giants fan so yeah, you could say we've had the best player, one of the best players of all time and I doubt there's too much argument about that. And of course I'm referring to Johnny LeMaster. I think we all agree he was the greatest.
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Post by bluerisk on Oct 15, 2019 22:46:01 GMT
The Kaiser
Tom Brady
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Oct 15, 2019 23:01:51 GMT
If Carlton wasn’t the best in 72 then you’re not familiar with that season. I could tell you this, no matter what Carlton did in '72 it doesn't match what Guidry did in '78. Or Doc in '85. It sure as hell does match. |
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Post by marco26 on Oct 15, 2019 23:02:21 GMT
Another mention of Brady.
Folks, the guy was not the best player. I mean do you need reminding that he faced Eli in the Super Bowl and lost. And that happened TWICE!
Plus the year Brady was out, a nobody named Cassel went 11-5.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Oct 15, 2019 23:05:09 GMT
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Oct 15, 2019 23:09:52 GMT
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Oct 15, 2019 23:11:33 GMT
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 15, 2019 23:17:23 GMT
Wow, I get to mention Dominik Hasek twice in one day.
The Bills had a running back in the 70's who was very good. He made a couple films after that and did some TV ADS. The name eludes me
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Oct 15, 2019 23:18:57 GMT
Lol he was on the Blues slightly longer than Piazza was on the Marlins. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 16, 2019 1:37:55 GMT
Shady Brady is a known cheater. Can't count him.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Oct 16, 2019 2:25:56 GMT
NHL - nope. Gilmour was the 2nd best for a year 92-93, Matthews & Tavares are arguably top 10 right now.
MLB - nope. Roger Juiced Clemens - 97 & 98 back to back pitching triple crowns & Cy Young awards, yet it was Griffey & Bonds still ahead.
NBA - yes! Kawhi Leonard 2018-2019. Stormed the Raptors through the league all way to the title.
NFL - Tom Brady. I think yeah f'n yes.
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Post by weststigersbob on Oct 16, 2019 5:18:09 GMT
US sports first :
NFL : Nope. Seau, Means, Tomlinson, Gates - all good, but not best in the sport.
MLB : since I’ve been a fan, I don’t think anyone on the O’s roster counts.
NHL : Hasek. Maybe.
NBA : don’t have a team, so no.
Football :
Manchester United : at various times - Cantona, Schmeichel, Giggs, Scholes, Beckham and Ronaldo could’ve been considered best in the world at that time.
Dortmund : Sammer. Maybe. Munich we aren’t.
Western Sydney Wanderers : lol.
Cricket : see Hosko’s post. But Australia at one stage had the best batsman, best keeper, best spinner and best fast bowler (the 4 main disciplines) easily in the world. Waugh, Gilchrist, Warne, McGrath respectively.
Rugby League : The one and only Benji Marshall. Did things on football fields no one else in the world could.
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Post by hi224 on Oct 16, 2019 6:06:10 GMT
yep.
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Post by sdm3 on Oct 16, 2019 6:58:51 GMT
I'm not talking about Babe Ruth days. In your lifetime has a team you root for ever had the hands down, no questions asked best player in the sport? For me I've experienced it a few times:: NY Giants - Lawrence Taylor NY Mets - Dwight Gooden NY Yankees - Reggie Jackson, Ron Guidry, and possibly Don Mattingly NY Rangers - Wayne GretzkyNY Nets - Doctor J NY Knicks - Jeremy Lin (it wasn't for whole season, but for two weeks Lin was hands down the best basketball player on Earth) Check it out folks. This dope thinks that Rangers-era Gretzky was the best player in hockey.  Has he ever heard of Mario Lemieux?
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Post by sdm3 on Oct 16, 2019 7:00:20 GMT
Colts had Peyton Manning, the best NFL player of the 00s decade.
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Post by SportsFan19 on Oct 16, 2019 10:35:14 GMT
MLB - Albert Pujols
- Greg Maddux
NHL - Joe Sakic
NBA - Kawhi Leonard
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