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Post by Nicko's Nose on Sept 24, 2022 23:27:34 GMT
The Harfoot are my favourite characters so far, mainly because Galadriel has the charisma and emotion of a statue. I love the scenery and CGI scenes of Numenor and wherever the Elves lives. The dwarves are done well too. Elrond and the Harfoot girl are the best actors in the series so far. Yes, they sure picked an unusually plain looking actress to play Galadriel, or else they just made her look plain. You sure do love to remind us how plain you think she is.
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Post by drystyx on Sept 25, 2022 0:57:23 GMT
Yes, they sure picked an unusually plain looking actress to play Galadriel, or else they just made her look plain. You sure do love to remind us how plain you think she is. I'm sure she probably has a bathing suit body, but you have to admit that above the neck she is plain. Make up would do wonders for her, and no doubt they'll revert to it when the time comes when she stops being so hateful. In the Tolkien world, the elves were known to be magically endowed with blessings, and it seems she just tossed her blessings away, but will regain them. You're just not going to find any heterosexual guy who thinks she is hot right now. She isn't, not even compared to whatever young women you may work with. And it is surely done on purpose. The director and even the actress would be amazed right now if someone claimed she was hot looking in this movie. She may be better looking in real life, but in this movie, she's plain.
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Post by Morgana on Sept 25, 2022 12:41:33 GMT
The Harfoot are my favourite characters so far, mainly because Galadriel has the charisma and emotion of a statue. I love the scenery and CGI scenes of Numenor and wherever the Elves lives. The dwarves are done well too. Elrond and the Harfoot girl are the best actors in the series so far. Yes, they sure picked an unusually plain looking actress to play Galadriel, or else they just made her look plain. Cate Blanchett, who played her in LOTR, was cute. I can only guess that this part of the transformation that occurs when Galdriel learns she is being a monster, so when the point comes at which the "change" is made, Galadriel stops looking like a mutt and gets some cuteness. Right now, Galadriel and Halbrand are both plain and hateful characters who are boring to watch. I think it's pretty obvious that they're pairing her and Halbrand as two people going through very similar circumstances who will turn into two different directions at the end. It's so obvious that a caveman can see it. That's the "formula writing" that gets applause from the control freaks. I'm not a fan of it, because I've never seen a rotten person turn into a decent person. I don't think that the actress that plays Galadriel is plain, just that she doesn't have the emotional range or charisma to play the part.
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Post by drystyx on Oct 1, 2022 6:14:36 GMT
More of "what the Hell did I just watch".
Galadriel acts more and more like a total dumbass whore and total punk. She has no problem killing off the small time orcs, but there's absolutely no logic to her saving the worst of the bunch. She says she needs "Adar". Why? Duh, so he can tell her lies? What's the use of questioning a liar.
The first thing a real leader would do in this story is to execute Adar without listening to one utterance from Adar. Eliminate him before he can confuse anyone. Next, a real leader would see Halbrand as the spy he is. What kind of spy? Who knows? But he's obviously not on the team. Since he hasn't committed a crime worthy of death yet, it would be hard to justify executing him, but he should never be put into any position of trust. What's this business of him ready to kill Adar, then suddenly stopping just from one word by Galadriel? Get real. Then he stops Galadriel? How can anyone trust either of these two maniacs?
Galadriel's "slow kill" of Adar is as comical as Dr. Evil slow killing Austin Powers. This is like the Bond villain slow killing James Bond just to make sure James Bond doesn't die. It has to be comedy, but it isn't.
It looks like the writers listen to much modern day dark ages psychiatry. Anyone from the hood can tell you that punks like Galadriel and Halbrand don't "change". People who think that's possible have watched too many movies and not lived enough in the wild or the streets.
Now, Halbrand is "king". King of what? The same kingdom that Elendil and Isildur reign over later? If so, then Halbrand surely won't be the dead king under the mountain that is cursed by Isildur for not helping in war. It's looking more and more like he's destined to be a Nazgul. That was the obvious fate for him from the beginning, of course, and it would be a mistake to try to make him something else. That would be "Beavis and Butthead" writing the script, trying to be cute.
Not to mention that since the story is pairing Galadriel and Halbrand as comrades in arms, the theatrical use of such characters is to have them go different routes. Since we know Galadriel stops being a punk and turns to a wiser and more humane path, Halbrand is sure to go the other route, if this is even going to try to resemble anything close to drama. That's not a "bad" thing to be predictable, because 20 years from now and 100 years from now, this will be the "standard" story, that most people will know any way, so it doesn't matter that it's predictable. In fact, it would fail if it wasn't predictable, since we already know the "sequels".
Galadriel and Halbrand are such punks that it's impossible to care about them. Of course that's why we have the other characters. The lines are stupid, but at least the other characters aren't as punky as the lead characters.
Yes, the lines are stupid. If you were to submit a script that was only half as horrible as this one (twice as good, I guess you could say, or 2/10), you would be lambasted and slandered no end. Of course, if you're not in the mob or writer's guild, you could send in a perfect script and they'd gripe about it.
Still, it's only by going back to the more reasonable characters that anyone can sit through this garbage.
Sometimes, I'm wondering if this is a snipe hunt.
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Post by Pangolin on Oct 1, 2022 6:24:52 GMT
Yes, they sure picked an unusually plain looking actress to play Galadriel, or else they just made her look plain. Cate Blanchett, who played her in LOTR, was cute. I can only guess that this part of the transformation that occurs when Galdriel learns she is being a monster, so when the point comes at which the "change" is made, Galadriel stops looking like a mutt and gets some cuteness. Right now, Galadriel and Halbrand are both plain and hateful characters who are boring to watch. I think it's pretty obvious that they're pairing her and Halbrand as two people going through very similar circumstances who will turn into two different directions at the end. It's so obvious that a caveman can see it. That's the "formula writing" that gets applause from the control freaks. I'm not a fan of it, because I've never seen a rotten person turn into a decent person. I don't think that the actress that plays Galadriel is plain, just that she doesn't have the emotional range or charisma to play the part.
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Post by Morgana on Oct 1, 2022 11:12:14 GMT
I don't think that the actress that plays Galadriel is plain, just that she doesn't have the emotional range or charisma to play the part. ?
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Post by damngumby on Oct 1, 2022 14:36:21 GMT
Episode six. Some random observations …
Seemed real easy to collapse that tower.
Really, your defensive scheme hinged on getting a medieval match lit in time?
Kung Fu elf!
Where on earth were they racing full gallop toward? It’s not like they knew that village was under attack. They just get off the boat and go into mass attack mode … for miles? … without an enemy in sight?
Wait … you mean Galadriel and Halbrand run down that elf-orc guy to retrieve the sword hilt … and they never unwrapped the rags to see if it contained the object they were after? Did IQs suddenly drop in Middle Earth?
You cause fire to explode by dumping water on it? Good to know!
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Post by Marv on Oct 1, 2022 16:00:18 GMT
You cause fire to explode by dumping water on it? Good to know! That is apparently true. Water evaporating in magma can cause volcanic eruptions.
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Post by drystyx on Oct 1, 2022 18:08:36 GMT
Episode six. Some random observations … Seemed real easy to collapse that tower. Really, your defensive scheme hinged on getting a medieval match lit in time? Kung Fu elf! Where on earth were they racing full gallop toward? It’s not like they knew that village was under attack. They just get off the boat and go into mass attack mode … for miles? … without an enemy in sight? Wait … you mean Galadriel and Halbrand run down that elf-orc guy to retrieve the sword hilt … and they never unwrapped the rags to see if it contained the object they were after? Did IQs suddenly drop in Middle Earth? You cause fire to explode by dumping water on it? Good to know! Yeah, the full gallop thing is something anyone familiar with horses laughs about. To just wear down the horse before it approaches the goal is something that I dare say over half of the audience finds silly. LOTR does a bit better. Eomer charges downhill with horses in one battle, so they are in "neutral" really, and the "oliphants" begin at a slow pace till the horn blows to make them run at full gallop. It's a bit worse in Western movies, because we know that real Earth horses don't sprint for miles without being too tired to battle. I suppose the logic here is that these are special "Middle Earth horses" who are kind of like the elves, with incredible stamina and speed and agility. I'm still in a groan over Galadriel behaving like Dr. Evil or a Bond villain in killing all the "small fry", but then instead of immediately executing the dangerous Adar, coming up with some ridiculous scenario of a long, slow death that gives him a chance to escape, play mind games, give false information, and just be detrimental to her cause.
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Post by damngumby on Oct 1, 2022 18:09:04 GMT
You cause fire to explode by dumping water on it? Good to know! That is apparently true. Water evaporating in magma can cause volcanic eruptions. Apparently, it is! I’m now a wee bit wiser than I was a few hours ago. It does explain why the orcs were digging trenches … though it’s still a mystery why the elves didn’t notice them, what with their amazing eyesight and all.
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Post by damngumby on Oct 1, 2022 18:54:13 GMT
I'm still in a groan over Galadriel behaving like Dr. Evil or a Bond villain in killing all the "small fry", but then instead of immediately executing the dangerous Adar, coming up with some ridiculous scenario of a long, slow death that gives him a chance to escape, play mind games, give false information, and just be detrimental to her cause. First she stop Halbrand from killing him with this amazing rational, “You can not satisfy thirst by drinking seawater.” (How do the actors say these lines with a straight face?) Her plan is to wipe out all the orcs but to keep him alive so he can witness the end of his kind before she kills him. Why does she so hate this one particular orc she just met, that she’d revel in the act of tormenting him in such a way? Then Galadriel throws all that out the window when he suggests that it is she who is evil. She is about to slit his throat when Halbrand interrupts her. It goes from, don’t kill him, we need him … to, I’m going to kill you last … to, fuck it, I’m going to kill you now … to, never mind.
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Post by Pangolin on Oct 2, 2022 5:50:05 GMT
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Oct 2, 2022 6:14:39 GMT
Man, I love how many nerds this show has made cry.
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Post by onethreetwo on Oct 2, 2022 7:39:45 GMT
Episode 6 was pretty good. There were 3 scenes of dialog that were cringey, and there was a pacing issue with the reinforcements being on the boat one minute and literally saving the day the next. It wasn't a perfect episode but it wasn't bad. Overall this is still my favorite of the shows I'm watching now.
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Post by Winter_King on Oct 4, 2022 11:28:51 GMT
Episode six. Some random observations … Seemed real easy to collapse that tower. Really, your defensive scheme hinged on getting a medieval match lit in time? Kung Fu elf! Where on earth were they racing full gallop toward? It’s not like they knew that village was under attack. They just get off the boat and go into mass attack mode … for miles? … without an enemy in sight? Wait … you mean Galadriel and Halbrand run down that elf-orc guy to retrieve the sword hilt … and they never unwrapped the rags to see if it contained the object they were after? Did IQs suddenly drop in Middle Earth?You cause fire to explode by dumping water on it? Good to know! That was pretty stupid. Also how did Halbrand, who started the pursue after Galadriel, managed to outrun both Galadriel and Adar in order to attack him from the front.
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Post by damngumby on Oct 4, 2022 11:32:35 GMT
Episode six. Some random observations … Seemed real easy to collapse that tower. Really, your defensive scheme hinged on getting a medieval match lit in time? Kung Fu elf! Where on earth were they racing full gallop toward? It’s not like they knew that village was under attack. They just get off the boat and go into mass attack mode … for miles? … without an enemy in sight? Wait … you mean Galadriel and Halbrand run down that elf-orc guy to retrieve the sword hilt … and they never unwrapped the rags to see if it contained the object they were after? Did IQs suddenly drop in Middle Earth?You cause fire to explode by dumping water on it? Good to know! That was pretty stupid. Also how did Halbrand, who started the pursue after Galadriel, managed to outrun both Galadriel and Adar in order to attack him from the front. It also cracked me up when the elf tries to smash the sword hilt with a hammer, fails, and then proclaims, "it is beyond our power to destroy"
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Post by drystyx on Oct 4, 2022 18:36:24 GMT
That was pretty stupid. Also how did Halbrand, who started the pursue after Galadriel, managed to outrun both Galadriel and Adar in order to attack him from the front. That's the one thing that would be natural. Galadriel had never been there before, but Halbrand was allegedly in familiar territory, and so had a better chance of knowing the terrain and short cuts. The same way that a local driver knows which road is more likely to be flooded or have potholes, that sort of thing. I remember in Louisville, people would take forever taking the expressway to get from Crittenden Drive to downtown, while I would simply go one block over to Park Avenue and take the isolated, straight, uncrowded route with no traffic lights. And now, people who are local residents will take another route, because Park Avenue is now blocked by U of L structures. It makes sense that Halbrand would be able to get there first if he knew the location and terrain. Actually, it makes more sense that he gets there before Galadriel than for Galadriel to get there first.
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Post by drystyx on Oct 6, 2022 6:28:23 GMT
A day or two ago, it dawned on me finally, and it was so obvious. This isn't Galadriel we're seeing. It's Sauron disguised as Galadriel.
How did she get out of Sauron's HQ when she was all alone? And back to her friends? She didn't. She was captured. She probably escapes, because Sauron already showed us he's like a Bond villain or Dr. Evil, not outright killing Bond or Austin Powers or Galadriel or Adar, but making a mousetrap that they will escape to do damage.
We're seeing a self destructive Sauron.
It was so obvious that a caveman could see it, and I missed it until a day or two ago. All that Galadriel has done has been totally without motivation.
Unless she's really Sauron. And Sauron is even now training his future witch king in her friend. He was evidently some sorcerer.
Yes, Sauron couldn't finish that trip on the ship and be discovered by the gods who would punish him. That's why he made it look like Galadriel jumped ship. He jumped ship. He caused the sorcerer Halbrand to come for him. Halbrand is even now sensing this, but does he know yet that it is Sauron, not Galadriel, to whom he speaks?
I take it back what I said about the poor writing, if that is the case. And it was all right in front of us all the time. Just like the guy who is stabbed and then the next scene he is chasing a boy who sees dead people.
How could we have missed it! Will they reveal it in Friday's episode? I think so.
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Post by Marv on Oct 6, 2022 9:25:10 GMT
I can't wait til the real Sauron shows up...
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Post by Pangolin on Oct 6, 2022 10:00:30 GMT
I'm afraid the RoP-showrunners are depriving us of a beautiful Sauron/Annatar.
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