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Post by kuatorises on Jan 6, 2023 15:34:03 GMT
if not frauds all year.
1. Weak schedule in a weak league. The NFL is really bad this year.
2. Players make huge leaps like Hurts never sustain. Reality sets in and they come back down to Earth. End up being something in between the breakout year and better than what they were before.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 6, 2023 15:40:56 GMT
Ride it to the title if you can. If they come back down to Earth next year (like they did last time), you'll always have this season.
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Post by sdm3 on Jan 6, 2023 15:44:29 GMT
QBs make leaps all the time, especially when they're given talented pass catchers. Even if Hurts doesn't sustain the level of play he showed this year, he's clearly a lot better than many of us thought.
Teams that were undefeated at some point in the season haven't won since 06? That's not a "curse" - one fact has no relationship with the other. It's like saying the team with the regular season MVP hasn't won the Super Bowl since Warner's Rams. Curse? No. Causation = / = correlation.
Great teams win Super Bowls and good teams that get hot at the right time win Super Bowls, but only one team can win in a given year. It has nothing to do with when they had their first loss in the regular season.
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Post by permutojoe on Jan 7, 2023 17:58:23 GMT
They handled the Cowboys with Hurts and only lost to them by a touchdown with a sub-par backup. They also put it to the Vikes. Both those teams could also be overrated so there could be some truth to what he's saying, but I would tend to think they're likely legit the best team in the NFC with Hurts in there.
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Post by Xeliou66 on Jan 7, 2023 18:02:35 GMT
I don’t think the Eagles are a fraud at all - Hurts is a much better QB than I ever thought he would be and yeah he’s taken a huge step forward this year, that doesn’t make him a fraud, they have a strong rushing attack, they have 2 great receivers in Brown and Smith, a good O-Line, and one of the best defenses in the NFL that’s very good at each position. I’m almost certain that the NFC Champion will be either the Eagles or the Niners.
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Post by kuatorises on Jan 20, 2023 21:25:39 GMT
Ride it to the title if you can. If they come back down to Earth next year (like they did last time), you'll always have this season. Exactly what happened in 2017. That shit was a fluke and we know it (now).
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Post by Shane Falco on Jan 20, 2023 23:00:52 GMT
They have a good as a shot as any to win it. People like to ignore this but its rare that the best team wins the title. Luck plays a big part in winning in the NFL. You've got a weirdly shaped ball that can bounce in any sort of direction. You can be the most talented team or the best coached and yet that one little bounce or freak thing could change the outcome. In a one and done playoff like the NFL it can come down to luck a lot of the time. The saying is its better to be lucky than good. If they win it you can't take it away from them so better to enjoy it.
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Post by kuatorises on Jan 21, 2023 14:50:29 GMT
They have a good as a shot as any to win it. People like to ignore this but its rare that the best team wins the title. Luck plays a big part in winning in the NFL. You've got a weirdly shaped ball that can bounce in any sort of direction. You can be the most talented team or the best coached and yet that one little bounce or freak thing could change the outcome. In a one and done playoff like the NFL it can come down to luck a lot of the time. The saying is its better to be lucky than good. If they win it you can't take it away from them so better to enjoy it. That's one of the biggest reasons I doubted them all year despite their record. Look at that link I posted in my OP. It's staggering.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jan 25, 2023 20:20:02 GMT
We're not going anywhere anytime soon
Jalen, DeVonta, AJ are all young
We have arguably the best O-Line in football
Use the #10 pick to add depth to it
Possibly our late 1st rounder as well
It's most important position in the sport and we're dominant because of it. People state we struggled late because Jalen was out - that was only partially it. We're a different team when Lane doesn't play - and looked like a different team when he was out.
Key is to figure out a way to resign CJ and Bradberry in the secondary.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2023 20:21:05 GMT
We're not going anywhere anytime soon Jalen, DeVonta, AJ are all young We have arguably the best O-Line in football Use the #10 pick to add depth to it Possibly our late 1st rounder as well It's most important position in the sport and we're dominant because of it. People state we struggled late because Jalen was out - that was only partially it. We're a different team when Lane doesn't play - and looked like a different team when he was out. Key is to figure out a way to resign CJ and Bradberry in the secondary. Hi buddy... How have you been keeping?
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jan 25, 2023 20:23:47 GMT
We're not going anywhere anytime soon Jalen, DeVonta, AJ are all young We have arguably the best O-Line in football Use the #10 pick to add depth to it Possibly our late 1st rounder as well It's most important position in the sport and we're dominant because of it. People state we struggled late because Jalen was out - that was only partially it. We're a different team when Lane doesn't play - and looked like a different team when he was out. Key is to figure out a way to resign CJ and Bradberry in the secondary. Hi buddy... How have you been keeping? Hey look who's back Good to see you're still alive. Hope all's well - I'm terrific. Lovin' life. Just popping in for my Super Bowl then I'll be back in June for my NBA Title
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jan 25, 2023 22:03:59 GMT
Ride it to the title if you can. If they come back down to Earth next year (like they did last time), you'll always have this season. Exactly what happened in 2017. That shit was a fluke and we know it (now). Disagree. Two perennial All-Pros on the offensive line - Lane Johnson and Jason Kelce (largely considered the best at their positions) were on that team It all starts up front. And to this day - they're still dominant which is one of the big reasons why were at where we're at today. They're getting up there in age. We already have Kelce's replacement in Cam Jurgens who coaches rave about. He'd probably start anywhere else. As far as Johnson's eventual replacement - Jack Driscoll was a human turnstyle when Lane went down late in the season which is one of the reasons we didn't look as in sync.
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Post by kuatorises on Jan 25, 2023 22:32:26 GMT
Exactly what happened in 2017. That shit was a fluke and we know it (now). Disagree. Two perennial All-Pros on the offensive line - Lane Johnson and Jason Kelce (largely considered the best at their positions) were on that team It all starts up front. And to this day - they're still dominant which is one of the big reasons why were at where we're at today. They're getting up there in age. We already have Kelce's replacement in Cam Jurgens who coaches rave about. He'd probably start anywhere else. As far as Johnson's eventual replacement - Jack Driscoll was a human turnstyle when Lane went down late in the season which is one of the reasons we didn't look as in sync. They won a SB with a backup QB, nor elite WRs, or RBs. That's a fluke. The offensive and D lines were the only thing they had that was THAT good; and both lines truly were.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jan 25, 2023 22:39:36 GMT
Disagree. Two perennial All-Pros on the offensive line - Lane Johnson and Jason Kelce (largely considered the best at their positions) were on that team It all starts up front. And to this day - they're still dominant which is one of the big reasons why were at where we're at today. They're getting up there in age. We already have Kelce's replacement in Cam Jurgens who coaches rave about. He'd probably start anywhere else. As far as Johnson's eventual replacement - Jack Driscoll was a human turnstyle when Lane went down late in the season which is one of the reasons we didn't look as in sync. They won a SB with a backup QB, nor elite WRs, or RBs. That's a fluke. The offensive and D lines were the only thing they had that was THAT good; and both lines truly were. And isn't it amazing? That dominant O-Line allowed for that backup QB to throw for over 370 yards and we rushed for over 150 yards in the Super Bowl And that's what we still have today - a dominant O-Line Nothing is a fluke - when your O-Line protects your QB (Pats did not have 1 sack in the SB), allows him time to gash the secondary for over 370 yards and sets up the run which they did beautifully
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Post by kuatorises on Jan 25, 2023 23:09:16 GMT
They won a SB with a backup QB, nor elite WRs, or RBs. That's a fluke. The offensive and D lines were the only thing they had that was THAT good; and both lines truly were. And isn't it amazing? That dominant O-Line allowed for that backup QB to throw for over 370 yards and we rushed for over 150 yards in the Super Bowl And that's what we still have today - a dominant O-Line Nothing is a fluke - when your O-Line protects your QB (Pats did not have 1 sack in the SB), allows him time to gash the secondary for over 370 yards and sets up the run which they did beautifully 7-9 13-3 9-7 9-7 4-11 Wee bit of a fluke, my man. Loved it while it happened, will remember it until I die, but it was an outlier. It was Trent Dilfer or or Jeff Hostetler winning the SB.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jan 25, 2023 23:11:34 GMT
And isn't it amazing? That dominant O-Line allowed for that backup QB to throw for over 370 yards and we rushed for over 150 yards in the Super Bowl And that's what we still have today - a dominant O-Line Nothing is a fluke - when your O-Line protects your QB (Pats did not have 1 sack in the SB), allows him time to gash the secondary for over 370 yards and sets up the run which they did beautifully 7-9 13-3 9-7 9-7 4-11 Wee bit of a fluke, my man. Loved it while it happened, will remember it until I die, but it was an outlier. It was Trent Dilfer or or Jeff Hostetler winning the SB. Sure Going 13-3 - beating 2 playoff teams in the Falcons and the #2 Seed Vikings Then beating Tom Brady and the Patriots is a 'Fluke' Whatever you say there fella
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jan 25, 2023 23:15:31 GMT
When was the last team to repeat as Super Bowl Champs - what was it the 2005 Patriots? Fluke - how hard is it to win the Super Bowl? Winning the Super Bowl is no 'Fluke' Were the Rams a 'Fluke' last year? I mean - they didn't even make the playoffs this year - they must have been a 'Fluke' Good God. OOF.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 25, 2023 23:35:23 GMT
When was the last team to repeat as Super Bowl Champs - what was it the 2005 Patriots? Fluke - how hard is it to win the Super Bowl?Winning the Super Bowl is no 'Fluke' Were the Rams a 'Fluke' last year? I mean - they didn't even make the playoffs this year - they must have been a 'Fluke' Good God. OOF. Not that hard for Brady. He won the Super Bowl the previous season, should've won this one (he threw for over 500 yds and 3 TDs), and won the next one. To your point, winning is hard, so I'd hate to call a championship season a fluke. It's not like the Eagles were a halfass 9-7 team (don't worry, the Pats have lost a Super Bowl to them, too). They were good all year. But to his point, the Eagles were average to lousy the following few seasons, so the championship run does seem random.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jan 25, 2023 23:38:38 GMT
When was the last team to repeat as Super Bowl Champs - what was it the 2005 Patriots? Fluke - how hard is it to win the Super Bowl?Winning the Super Bowl is no 'Fluke' Were the Rams a 'Fluke' last year? I mean - they didn't even make the playoffs this year - they must have been a 'Fluke' Good God. OOF. Not that hard for Brady. He won the Super Bowl the previous season, should've won this won (he threw for over 500 yds and 3 TDs), and won the next one. To your point, winning is hard, so I'd hate to call a championship season a fluke. It's not like the Eagles were a halfass 9-7 team (don't worry, the Pats have lost a Super Bowl to them, too). They were good all year. But to his point, the Eagles were average to lousy the following few seasons, so the championship run does seem random. The following years team went to the playoffs They did not miss the playoffs like the Rams did (who won the Super Bowl last year) this year They then won a game in the playoffs They then lost an absolute heartbreaker on the road to the Saints in the Divisional Round 20-14 - an incredibly tight game where Alshon dropped a pass on our last drive They were no 'Fluke'. A boxer upsetting another boxer with a lucky punch could be considered a 'Fluke'. Not an NFL team who wins a Super Bowl
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Post by Surly on Jan 26, 2023 11:12:21 GMT
7-9 13-3 9-7 9-7 4-11 Wee bit of a fluke, my man. Loved it while it happened, will remember it until I die, but it was an outlier. It was Trent Dilfer or or Jeff Hostetler winning the SB. Sure Going 13-3 - beating 2 playoff teams in the Falcons and the #2 Seed Vikings Then beating Tom Brady and the Patriots is a 'Fluke' Whatever you say there fella Yeah! It’s unfair to compare Nick Foles to Hostetler and Dilfer. Neither one of those quarterbacks had to outduel Tom Brady’s best offensive performance in a Super Bowl to win it. And neither one of them almost got back to the conference championship game the next year. Good points, screamingtreefrogs
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