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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 22, 2023 13:13:57 GMT
Yeah but according to Web Archive the IMDb score for Eternals was the same before Thor 4 came out as it is now it's not like it decreased because of it. On Rotten Tomatoes it was at 78% just before Thor 4 so it's stayed the same. It's not particularly surprising it only started last year because 2021 wasn't so bad. Yeah people didn't much care for Black Widow or Eternals but liked Shang Chi and loved Spider-Man and the streaming shows were all generally well liked. It started afterwards because Doctor Strange 2 probably had too much unwarranted hype where people had these unrealistic expectations (probably because of Spider-Man) and it didn't deliver. Thor being one of the more anticipated movies and it being a huge disappointment. Black Panther 2 being anticipated and it's regarded as being a step down from the last one. Meanwhile the TV shows from 2022 were significantly worse than those from the year prior. Ms Marvel and She Hulk especially were not liked.Phase 4 only ran across 2021 and 2022 and last year what was the highlight? The phase is over with no Avengers movie, no Iron Man or Captain America, no debuting heroes that people really took too. It has gone downhill. It's true. Its not like there's conspiracy and people have just turned on it because it's cool now. It's still very popular but it's definitely weaker than it was for phase 3 because the movies haven't been very good. The audiences scores for those movies on RT 91% and 77% respectively. Hell, Thor 4 has a 77% fan rating, which shocked me. I personally hated Thor 4, but there's an audience for it apparently. Full disclosure, I think Spiderman 4 is overrated as shit. I didn't hate it, but I wasn't gaga over it like a lot of people. Point is people have been very "what have you done for me lately." My point is not Phase 4 is great.
Dr. Strange didn't deliver?! When did that memo go out? I missed that one. I think it's easily the best Phase 4 movie and judging by it's 85% fan score, a lot of other people liked it too.
Because of the stuff in the trailers (which even Kevin Feige said gave away too much) had people thinking something ludicrous would happen like the FoX-men all showing up and it really being about Dr Strange and the FoX-Men and it ending with the MCU and FoX-Verse merging together like they were always one timeline and all the FoX-Men movies were canon in the MCU now and the timeline was permanently altered.
So that didn't happen, hence "didn't deliver".
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Post by paulslaugh on Feb 22, 2023 14:29:48 GMT
It is, but it did have the premiere of the TV shows as part of the phase and it’s hard to judge the series vs the movies. Even so, all but Dr Strange were poor to fair, nothing exceptional.
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Post by scabab on Feb 22, 2023 17:50:41 GMT
The audiences scores for those movies on RT 91% and 77% respectively. Hell, Thor 4 has a 77% fan rating, which shocked me. I personally hated Thor 4, but there's an audience for it apparently. Full disclosure, I think Spiderman 4 is overrated as shit. I didn't hate it, but I wasn't gaga over it like a lot of people. Point is people have been very "what have you done for me lately." My point is not Phase 4 is great. Dr. Strange didn't deliver?! When did that memo go out? I missed that one. I think it's easily the best Phase 4 movie and judging by it's 85% fan score, a lot of other people liked it too. I'm just going off of IMDb, I don't think RT is such a good measure for such a thing as it boils down to liking it or not. I liked Black Widow more than I disliked it but I wouldn't have given it a 7. IMDb at least you get an average score and it pulls from a much larger number. Black Widow has a 6.7 and Eternals a 6.3. It's not exactly good. Doctor Strange 2 a 6.9, it's decent but that's about it, the same as Iron Man 2 which was regarded one of the weaker ones once upon a time.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 22, 2023 23:39:46 GMT
Can we agree phase four had some awesome music at least?
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Post by Lux on Feb 23, 2023 6:07:30 GMT
Can we agree phase four had some awesome music at least? Agreed the one thing phase 4 did right was the music.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Feb 24, 2023 20:10:39 GMT
Honestly i'm starting to feel that Marvel peaked with Avengers Endgame.
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Post by blockbusted on Oct 22, 2023 2:16:02 GMT
Can we agree phase four had some awesome music at least? You should’ve added ‘Natasha’s Lullaby’ as well - along with the main theme of ‘Thor: Love and Thunder’.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 22, 2023 17:02:03 GMT
And Yelena's theme too
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 22, 2023 22:45:42 GMT
My answer probably should be yes since I've offically started skipping things (Ant-Man 3, half of the TV shows). but at the same time, I find that first phase so mediocre and dull. Incidentally they both suuffer from the opposite problem, with phase 1 being too grounded and Nolan-light, and 4 going way overboard with the "so that happened" jokey jokes.
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Post by pennypacker on Oct 29, 2023 22:40:28 GMT
Yes. Granted I don’t get the hype of all of the phases, but this is just boring.
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