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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 22:22:32 GMT
Oh, lay off, dude. You know just as well as everyone else that saying "WONDER WOMAN IS THE BEST FILM IN A DECADE!!!!1111"; "TOP SUPERHERO MOVIE EVA!", "DESERVES AN OSCAR!", and such is a bit much. This isn't about that, raptor. It's about Stanton constantly lashing out at me saying that people should never say anything bad about good movies and then turning around and doing exactly what he says he doesn't do. That's not what he's done. All he's done is point out the praise Wonder Woman's receiving is exaggerated. And he's right.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 22:25:57 GMT
This isn't about that, raptor. It's about Stanton constantly lashing out at me saying that people should never say anything bad about good movies and then turning around and doing exactly what he says he doesn't do. That's not what he's done. All he's done is point out the praise Wonder Woman's receiving is exaggerated. And he's right. Maybe he is right. I don't think WW is a top five comic book movie, maybe a top ten. Still not the point though. He listed his complaints for WW, which are fair and he has the right to do so. But he said before that he never does that, quite adamantly in fact. So, yes. Hypocrisy.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 10, 2017 22:28:12 GMT
Some would say that a lot MCU movies have "exaggerated praise". Who are you to say what is exaggerated and what's not?? Just because you didn't like it as much as others? Hypocrisy much? It's pretty much impossible to say the MCU has exaggerated praise when everybody is trying to copy them.
Furthermore, nobody is claiming every MCU movie is the best comic movie. There are only handful that enter that discussion and rightfully so.
All I've said is WW isn't one of them in that discussion either.
So there's nothing hypocritical about what I've said.
Are you just trying to play the gotcha game?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 22:28:32 GMT
That's not what he's done. All he's done is point out the praise Wonder Woman's receiving is exaggerated. And he's right. Maybe he is right. I don't think WW is a top five comic book movie, maybe a top ten. Still not the point though. He listed his complaints for WW, which are fair and he has the right to do so. But he said before that he never does that, quite adamantly in fact. So, yes. Hypocrisy. Yes, well, I'm willing to overlook it if takes those DC fans down a notch before they have a chance to let their egos get inflated.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 10, 2017 22:29:17 GMT
That's not what he's done. All he's done is point out the praise Wonder Woman's receiving is exaggerated. And he's right. Maybe he is right. I don't think WW is a top five comic book movie, maybe a top ten. Still not the point though. That's exactly the point.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 22:33:35 GMT
Some would say that a lot MCU movies have "exaggerated praise". Who are you to say what is exaggerated and what's not?? Just because you didn't like it as much as others? Hypocrisy much? It's pretty much impossible to say the MCU has exaggerated praise when everybody is trying to copy them.
Furthermore, nobody is claiming every MCU movie is the best comic movie. There are only handful that enter that discussion and rightfully so.
All I've said is WW isn't one of them in that discussion either.
So there's nothing hypocritical about what I've said.
Are you just trying to play the gotcha game?
Well, you know I'm a huge fan of the MCU. I'm not a fanboy for either side. But you've been jumping on me quite a bit whenever I post the slightest criticism of any MCU movie. Now you're doing the same thing with WW after claiming that you never do. So, basically... Yes. It's a gotcha game. And I gotcha. I gotcha real good.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 22:34:15 GMT
Maybe he is right. I don't think WW is a top five comic book movie, maybe a top ten. Still not the point though. That's exactly the point.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 22:36:56 GMT
Just let it go. Neither of you are going to change your stances. The only thing continuing this argument will do is add more pages to the topic.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 22:39:02 GMT
Just let it go. Neither of you are going to change your stances. The only thing continuing this argument will do is add more pages to the topic. Not yet. I've got some good "gotcha" memes ready to go...
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 10, 2017 22:45:18 GMT
Well, you know I'm a huge fan of the MCU. I'm not a fanboy for either side. But you've been jumping on me quite a bit whenever I post the slightest criticism of any MCU movie. Now you're doing the same thing with WW after claiming that you never do. So, basically... Yes. It's a gotcha game. And I gotcha. I gotcha real good. Except you didn't.
I don't think I claimed I never criticize. I claimed I never do when there's no reason to go after the film. The reason here is over praising. I don't recall Thor or First Avenger being dubbed Oscar worthy or top 3. When you've done it you just do things like say Malekith sucks. Was anybody claiming he was the greatest, because I don't recall that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 22:48:03 GMT
Some would say that a lot MCU movies have "exaggerated praise". Who are you to say what is exaggerated and what's not?? Just because you didn't like it as much as others? Hypocrisy much? It's pretty much impossible to say the MCU has exaggerated praise when everybody is trying to copy them.
Furthermore, nobody is claiming every MCU movie is the best comic movie. There are only handful that enter that discussion and rightfully so.
All I've said is WW isn't one of them in that discussion either.
So there's nothing hypocritical about what I've said.
Are you just trying to play the gotcha game?
Ok. Now we can move on...
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 11, 2017 3:08:22 GMT
I did not realize IM was rated higher than WW. It is not Mr President, WW ranks as 3 best reviewed after TDK and Logan. Metacritic scores of WW are based on only 50 reviews, RT score on 271 (worldwide). So, your insight serves you well. He was specificallt citing metacritic scores so I used metacritic scores. I can use RT scores if necessary.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 11, 2017 6:16:13 GMT
The difference is reigning in exaggerated praise vs running down a film there's nothing wrong with.
I've already said WW is a good film. There's nothing really wrong with it, but let's take it easy on the top 3 ever nonsense. There's plenty of stuff that is far from the best.
Some would say that a lot MCU movies have "exaggerated praise". Who are you to say what is exaggerated and what's not?? Just because you didn't like it as much as others? Hypocrisy much? Excellent post! I agree. It's hypocrisy to claim that Wonder Woman has "exaggerated praise" when most MCU movies have exaggerated praise. Ant-Man, Civil War, Doctor Strange, Guardians of the Galaxy are all over-rated.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 6:19:04 GMT
Some would say that a lot MCU movies have "exaggerated praise". Who are you to say what is exaggerated and what's not?? Just because you didn't like it as much as others? Hypocrisy much? Excellent post! I agree. It's hypocrisy to claim that Wonder Woman has "exaggerated praise" when most MCU movies have exaggerated praise. Ant-Man, Civil War, Doctor Strange, Guardians of the Galaxy are all over-rated. Keep dreaming, kid.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 11, 2017 17:38:35 GMT
Some would say that a lot MCU movies have "exaggerated praise". Who are you to say what is exaggerated and what's not?? Just because you didn't like it as much as others? Hypocrisy much? Excellent post! I agree. It's hypocrisy to claim that Wonder Woman has "exaggerated praise" when most MCU movies have exaggerated praise. Ant-Man, Civil War, Doctor Strange, Guardians of the Galaxy are all over-rated. Except there's no clear reason why those MCU movies would be over praised. WW was the first major female superhero bloclbuster, directed by a woman and casting a POC as lead. It was also the first good movie among DCEU bombs. So there is proper cause to believe it is overpraised. What reason is their to overpraise the MCU movies?
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Post by thenewnexus on Jun 11, 2017 19:25:16 GMT
I would say both movies are pretty much even,First Avenger is a personal fav of mine,but I prefer that one over WW because Chris Evans and Hugo Weaving,Gadot and the Aries actor are miscast.
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