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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jul 7, 2017 4:00:41 GMT
He even admitted he's a fan of Spider-Man and Chris Hemsworth and admires RDJ. Mamoa doesn't hate Chris Hemsworth or RDJ. They're his fellow colleagues and they weren't the ones who screwed over Mickey Rourke, Edward Norton, Natalie Portman, and Terence Howard. It was MCU that screwed them over. As usual, you skip over everything I pointed out. Let me try one more time, and please, pay attention to what I write. The whole fuck Marvel thing was just a fan asking him to sign a poster and write "Fuck Marvel". It had nothing to do with him attacking the MCU producers or anything like that. Sorry if that's hard for you too understand |
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Post by NormanClature on Oct 18, 2018 23:14:26 GMT
well, every side will blame the other, MCU fans claim retaliation for getting insulted, and DCEU fans say the same about MCU fans. now I will admit DCEU fans have been a bit more "dramatic" or aggressive since they have felt "against the ropes" which leads some people to do and say stupid things, but those who constantly stoke this annoying and semi-toxic flame, who cannot simply let it be and seek "retribution," probably have some anti-social tendencies.....regardless of side. It was the Nolan Dark Knight fans, though. I was a hardcore DC fan in 2008 when both Dark Knight and Ironman rolled out. Yeah, it was mostly the DC fans being arrogant wine-sniffing snobs picking a fight with the Marvel fandom. I switched sides when DC's film output started sucking. You flip-flopped?  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 23:26:08 GMT
It was the Nolan Dark Knight fans, though. I was a hardcore DC fan in 2008 when both Dark Knight and Ironman rolled out. Yeah, it was mostly the DC fans being arrogant wine-sniffing snobs picking a fight with the Marvel fandom. I switched sides when DC's film output started sucking. You flip-flopped? Surviving a trifecta of suckitude (Green Lantern, The Dark Knight Rises, and Man of Steel) tends to do that. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 22, 2018 2:09:03 GMT
All this back and forth has gotten away from the spirit of the original post. In fact it may have proved the original post. So in light of that, I re-post... the original post. Enjoy.
I don't understand how a fan of the superhero genre will draw the line at a particular brand. I've read comics my entire life and grew up watching movies and cartoons and live action tv shows for all different types of superheroes from the big 2 and other comic labels. I just don't get why some fans will draw an arbitrary line in the sand as if only one brand is good and the other is crap. Anyone that's exposed themselves to both brands knows theres something to be had from them all. Get over yourselves haters! |
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Oct 22, 2018 2:13:09 GMT
Yeah I much prefer the MCU than the DCEU, but I still like the DCEU and I’m not gonna fight with anyone over which comic book movie franchise is better, that’s just silly.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 22, 2018 2:26:47 GMT
All this back and forth has gotten away from the spirit of the original post. In fact it may have proved the original post. So in light of that, I re-post... the original post. Enjoy.
I don't understand how a fan of the superhero genre will draw the line at a particular brand. I've read comics my entire life and grew up watching movies and cartoons and live action tv shows for all different types of superheroes from the big 2 and other comic labels. I just don't get why some fans will draw an arbitrary line in the sand as if only one brand is good and the other is crap. Agreed. I like DC comics but I also like the X-Men and Fantastic Four comics. |
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Post by damngumby on Oct 22, 2018 11:21:12 GMT
All this back and forth has gotten away from the spirit of the original post. In fact it may have proved the original post. So in light of that, I re-post... the original post. Enjoy.
I don't understand how a fan of the superhero genre will draw the line at a particular brand. I've read comics my entire life and grew up watching movies and cartoons and live action tv shows for all different types of superheroes from the big 2 and other comic labels. I just don't get why some fans will draw an arbitrary line in the sand as if only one brand is good and the other is crap. Anyone that's exposed themselves to both brands knows theres something to be had from them all. Get over yourselves haters! I never read comic books as a kid, so I avoided this infantile in-fighting ... the sort of behavior that can be forgiven among children, but that has followed all to many superhero fans into adulthood. ... so I can speak as someone without a preexisting condition. There is a line between brands, at least in the movies. Marvel movies tend to be good and DC movies tend to be crap. This view didn’t gestate on a playground while arguing over the superiority of a favorite superhero action figure. It occurred in the theater after audiences got a whiff of the DC trifecta of sludge ... BvS, SS & JL. Now, that doesn’t mean it has to remain that way. WW showed that it was possible to make a DC movie that didn’t suck. Granted, JL was another enormous setback, but if Aquaman is good, then there is no reason to think that DC can’t crawl out of their hole and start producing decent movies on a regular basis. And if that happens, I will have no problem giving credit where credit is due. There has to be at least one adult chaperoning these boards. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 22, 2018 13:18:47 GMT
It's mainly MCU fans. I enjoy DC movies as well as Marvel movies, such as the first 2 Spider-Man movies, some of the X-Men movies, and even the first 2 Fantastic Four movies (but not the 2015 Fantastic Four reboot, which was just awful). But MCU fans just want MCU to have a monopoly on all superhero movies. There are MCU fans here who hate on all the X-Men movies simply because they're made by Fox and not MCU.
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Post by Nalkarj on Oct 22, 2018 13:32:42 GMT
I’ve never really read comics, but I’m trying to write this Batman story for this board for Halloween right now, so I’ve been reading Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale’s Batman: The Long Halloween and Batman: Haunted Knight, which I pretty much loved. Something that I’ve noticed is that, far more than DC v. Marvel stuff, what matters are the writers (and artists); I also read Loeb and Sale’s Spider-Man: Blue, which was excellent as well. The DC v. Marvel “fight,” both in comic-books and movies, seems pretty silly. By the way, Loeb has to be an Ellery Queen fan. The similarities are remarkable; The Long Halloween is an Ellery Queen-esque detective story, with Queen’s favorite structuring device (crimes according to a pattern) and Queen’s favorite solution (the, er, Birlstone Gambit), along with another twist in the last few panels that Queen used in Cat of Many Tails and Inspector Queen’s Own Case. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 22, 2018 13:49:03 GMT
It was the Nolan Dark Knight fans, though. I was a hardcore DC fan in 2008 when both Dark Knight and Ironman rolled out. Yeah, it was mostly the DC fans being arrogant wine-sniffing snobs picking a fight with the Marvel fandom. I switched sides when DC's film output started sucking. You flip-flopped? hard to fathom how the author of "The My Little Pony Chronicles" and "Sailor Moon: Celestial Warrior Moon" would ever flip flop to MCU.
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Post by Nalkarj on Oct 22, 2018 18:53:01 GMT
I finished Batman: Haunted Knight, which is marvellous. Are more comics like this? Intelligent, written by intelligent people (lots of literary references), with good, solid writing and detailed characterization.
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Post by Nalkarj on Oct 23, 2018 20:38:34 GMT
I also somehow managed to finish Loeb and Sale’s Batman: Dark Victory, which is good as well, with a really good surprise murderer. Its biggest problem is dragging in Robin—it’s not a bad characterization, far better than anything the movies have done (Batman Forever—ugh), but Robin just doesn’t fit this story. Admittedly, I don’t think he often fits anywhere.
By the way, all of these comics are available for free online, which is where I’ve been reading them. Has anyone else here read them?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 7:06:52 GMT
I personally don't get it either. The majority of comic book fans I have known over the years were more fans of the superheroes than the actual companies they were under and I know a lot of people who read Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, The Incredible Hulk, Wonder Woman, X Men, the Phantom, Spawn, Witchblade, The Darkness, The Crow, Fathom, Faust, Red Sonja, The Mask, Painkiller Jane, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Vampirella, Soulfire etc who don't fight over which company is better. I am more of a fan of Image Comics than DC or Marvel and mostly buy series under Image Comics and Dynamite Entertainment but I am a fan of many female lead series in general and follow a lot of female lead series under multiple companies. 
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Nov 8, 2018 10:46:13 GMT
It's a bummer. I grew up with Spider-Man and The Flash, followed by Batman and Daredevil when I got older. What I truly don't understand is the actively rooting for the other's failure, trying to diminish the achievements of the other, and how it sometimes gets to a "Disney vs WB" point.
It's all kinds of silly. Especially when it doesn't even matter. There are better movies and lesser movies on either side. Marvel's got their Spider-Man 2 along with their Elektra. DC's got their Dark Knight, as well as their Batman & Robin. Just like the MCU has Winter Soldier but also Thor: The Dark World, while DCEU has Wonder Woman right after Suicide Squad.
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Post by ThatGuy on Nov 8, 2018 22:34:53 GMT
It's a bummer. I grew up with Spider-Man and The Flash, followed by Batman and Daredevil when I got older. What I truly don't understand is the actively rooting for the other's failure, trying to diminish the achievements of the other, and how it sometimes gets to a "Disney vs WB" point. It's all kinds of silly. Especially when it doesn't even matter. There are better movies and lesser movies on either side. Marvel's got their Spider-Man 2 along with their Elektra. DC's got their Dark Knight, as well as their Batman & Robin. Just like the MCU has Winter Soldier but also Thor: The Dark World, while DCEU has Wonder Woman right after Suicide Squad. Think of it like this: there wasn't a movie version of the versus company until the MCU started. That's because the B and C listers are popular. It was okay when it was popular characters like Spider-man and X-men. Movies with characters like Captain America and Iron Man being more popular and liked than the Superman and Batman movies? What? We can't have this. Those characters are to be there, but not universally liked. DC is the company that should have all the good movies because they made Batman '89 and Superman '78 a hundred years ago. Iron Man was a good enough movie until they had the audacity to start ramping up to making an Avengers movie. But, no, it doesn't end there. You also have the X-men movie people. They thought the same thing with Iron Man being a good movie until they started with that Avengers nonsense. For years there have been people that didn't like the X-men movies. Even before the MCU ever started. And a lot of us have said why we didn't and how they could have made them better. But because the Great Lord Singer said you couldn't do that in movies, they have tried to silence us with our "idiocy." But then there came a person that was there for the X-men movies said "Um, you can do that." And did it to great success. MCU is a constant reminder of what people have been but never getting from some of the other studios.
And I left out the Raimi Spider-man people because they really only love 2 and tolerate the 1st one. Only the X-men people try to include them into this... thing.
Oh and the MCU fans do understand that there are rough movies in the franchise. But when you have examples you can do well in your series and have made movies of your character close to those examples, there should be no excuse unless you are actively trying to go against those other movies. Which is funny because your only good movie is like those movies you were going against. And another 2 that is also looking like those movies coming out.
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Post by HorrorMetal on Nov 10, 2018 16:29:20 GMT
I love them both and want them both to succeed. I'll admit that the MCU franchise has been mostly superior and more focused so far but I think DC is catching up and hopefully both will be making high quality movies. It's silly and pedantic to feel the need to choose one over the other just for the sake of some childish rivalry, and even more pathetic to constantly hope that one of them will fail.
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 13, 2018 19:35:59 GMT
I don't understand how a fan of the superhero genre will draw the line at a particular brand. I've read comics my entire life and grew up watching movies and cartoons and live action tv shows for all different types of superheroes from the big 2 and other comic labels. I just don't get why some fans will draw an arbitrary line in the sand as if only one brand is good and the other is crap. Anyone that's exposed themselves to both brands knows theres something to be had from them all. Get over yourselves haters! Most Marvel or DC fans don't "draw the line" at a particular brand. It's not like they make an conscious decision to only like one brand and hate the other (most of them anyway - some really do it this way). What does happen is that most fans will simply end up liking one more than the other, which is what makes them Marvel Fans or DC fans. They don't actively hate the other one, they just like one better. When I was a kid collecting comics, I had no idea what Marvel and DC was. I didn't care who made the comics I was reading, I just cared about whether I liked it or not. And I collected every comic I could get my hands on. When I grew up however and finally understood the difference between Marvel and DC, I looked back at my comics collection and realized that I had far more Marvel than DC and that my favorites were all Marvel. I liked the personalities of the Marvel characters more, I preferred their more interesting/unique powersets, I thought their costumes and look were just cooler and more well thought out in general. Even their names were more creative in my opinion. So without knowing it, I ended up being more a Marvel fan than a DC fan... not because I hated DC, I still enjoyed a bunch of their characters, but because I liked Marvel more. And then the MCU and DCEU came out and the MCU's quality is just so much better than DCEU's that I found myself liking the MCU more again. |
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