The villain of Black Panther is an American soldier

Jan 6, 2018 2:24:38 GMT DC-Fan said:

Jan 6, 2018 2:15:09 GMT Hauntedknight87 said:

They would have shot him. Hell they fucking shot at the King of Wakanda for Christ sake!

I'm surprised wakanda didn't declare war after that incident.

1st, no, the cops wouldn't have shot Bucky if had held his hands in the air and surrendered. We know that for a fact because later the cops chased Bucky through the streets and when they had him surrounded, he held up his hands and surrendered and they didn't shoot him. So that completely debunks any claims you have that they would've shot him.

2nd, no, they didn't shoot at the King of Wakanda. They shot at a guy in a mask who refused to identify himself to the cops. Moreover, T'Challa wasn't the King of Wakanda yet. His father was the King and was killed. I don't believe they had a coronation yet. So T'Challa wasn't the King of Wakanda yet.

That's only assuming Bucky instinctively reacts passively to them raiding his home and they weren't instinctively trigger happy, but considering how they opened fire on him & T'Challa when they were just struggling with each other and neither posed an imminent threat to the police in the chopper shows their intent, any sign of aggression when witness's were at a minimum and the people trying to "catch" Bucky intended to use lethal force.

I mean hell they only take him in when he's basically stands down in a public place and when both War Machine & Cap are present, they even fire on Bucky & T'Challa without identifying themselves, the first warning they get that they have a police chopper bearing down on them is when they are fired upon by said chopper, lets not forget it's explicitly stated in the film that they had orders to shoot on sight.

Also king, prince, coronation or not doesn't matter T'Challa either way was/is the highest ranking official of his people, royalty & a diplomatic representative of his nation and they almost killed him, had it not been for his suit they would have murdered him without cause.

Jan 6, 2018 19:55:02 GMT DC-Fan said:

Jan 6, 2018 18:27:17 GMT dazz said:

king, prince, coronation or not doesn't matter T'Challa either way was/is the highest ranking official of his people, royalty & a diplomatic representative of his nation and they almost killed him, had it not been for his suit they would have murdered him without cause.

King, prince, coronation or not, highest ranking official of his people, royalty & a diplomatic representative of his nation, doesn't matter. He was wearing a mask and refused to identify himself to the police so the police rightfully followed proper police procedure and assumed he was a criminal, until he identified himself.

If the police had shot and killed T'Challa, they would've been completely justified since T'Challa was wearing a mask and refused to identify himself to the police.

No they didn't as I stated they opened fire on them without announcing their presence, let alone ordering either man to stand down they simply opened fire without provocation in that moment, so no they never asked him to stand down, identify himself, put his hands up or anything else, police generally need to announce themselves, issue proper warnings and of fell their lives are in immentnet danger before they can open fire on a suspect, given neither man had a weapon to use against a police chopper nor were even aware of it's presence they weren't threatening the police in anyway.

Also whether he ID'd himself or not T'Challa is a member of the royal family that rules a independent nation recognised by the UN, killing him would cause huge blowback regardless of if they were justified or not which they wouldn't have been, and that's only as a general rule, add to that his father had just been murdered the day before or that day meaning 2 Wakandan royal family members andf 2 heads of state were killed back to back the 2nd of which was gunned down by police theres almost no scenario that would not cause uproar, let alone from a nation like Wakanda who were already isolationist and have low opinion of the outside world who are technologically advanced, let 2 of their kings die in even weeks of each other and you got a shitstorm on your hands.

I mean seriously dude if your gonna troll put some effort in this is bullshit laziness on your part, where's the effort like when you started this bait thread, atleast then it was still obvious trolling but you attempted to mask it, now you may as well just post the word TROLL on repeat for a few paragraphs, it'd amount to the same argument, effort and creativity.