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Post by damngumby on Jan 8, 2019 1:41:52 GMT
It’s not that surprising. The MCU tends to hire actors based on talent.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 8, 2019 1:22:31 GMT
I love trolls who think that Spiderman Homecoming and Black Panther are somehow worse movies than Jonah Hex, Fantastic 4, Elektra, Catwoman, etc. Hilarious. Black Panther and Spider-Man Homecoming and extremely generic superhero movies. Homecoming is like the other Spider-Man movies except the origin has been omitted. Black Panther is a generic superhero movie but it has an almost all black cast. Both are excellent superhero movies, though (IMO) neither bring anything significantly new to the table that would catapult them to the top of the superhero pyramid. In that regard the MCUs high level of consistency is actually a detriment to any new MCU movies. It is very hard to raise the bar any further. The DCEU, on the other hand, has plenty of room for improvement!
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Post by damngumby on Jan 8, 2019 1:05:54 GMT
Can the admins please delete these spam topics by President Meyer?
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Post by damngumby on Jan 8, 2019 1:02:43 GMT
I don't think you will find many people who disagree with that.
Where do you stand on the reaction of certain "DCU tribalists," who are now loving this movie after years of championing the "gritty" DCU and hating on the more upbeat tone of the MCU. Is that really different than the MCU fans who did the opposite: defended the lighter tone and weak villains and then reversed that stance when IW came out? Spoiler: All fanboys are hypocrites. Weird, since many MCU fans seem to think highly of movies like the TDK. It’s almost as if they like dark and gritty when it is well executed, unlike anything done by the DCEU. On the flip side, it’s not the execution of the MCU lighter tone that DCEU fans have scoffed at, it’s the lighter tone itself. And defending an otherwise great movie with a “weak” villain is not the antithesis of appreciating a great movie with a strong villain. That is why DCEU fans are hypocrites, and MCU fans are not.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 7, 2019 12:57:14 GMT
Oh crap! Did I miss the riots? MCU fans on this board are freaking out over the snub! Not
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Post by damngumby on Jan 7, 2019 0:22:25 GMT
Great movie despised by a vocal minority consisting mostly of right wing loons. Oh wait, there’s a political element to TLJ? I thought it just sucked.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 6, 2019 23:53:13 GMT
2. Spider-Man: Far From Home So biased you even list a film not yet released...or did you manage to steal a copy really early. ROTFLOL! DC-Fan just got owned! Kinda like his criticism of the Avengers in IW2. The movie hasn’t even come out yet.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 6, 2019 23:43:45 GMT
What do folks think of those two game deciding 3rd down penalties the refs gifted to the Cowboys in the 4th quarter?
I immediately thought that Jerry Jones must have written that big check he said he would write to get to the Super Bowl.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 6, 2019 20:29:48 GMT
So ... the logical conclusion to all this is to put these best and worst lists together and see where it leads us.
The thing that jumps out at me is how damaging the worst list is to DC. DC has the #1 best superhero movie with TDK, but it also has the very worst superhero movie with Catwoman. They cancel each other out. Then it turns into a total rout when you factor in Batman & Robin, Supergirl, Steel and Superman IV. DC gets crushed.
The only one standing tall after all this: The MCU !
Fini
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Post by damngumby on Jan 6, 2019 20:14:18 GMT
Ghost Rider showed up on a few lists but didn’t get sufficient hate to put it in the top ten.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 6, 2019 18:28:21 GMT
BTW, I never even heard of Captain America 1990 before doing this. Has anyone seen it?
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Post by damngumby on Jan 6, 2019 18:21:35 GMT
Are you able to do a top 30? Oh man, too much work. Besides, I noticed that after Electra, there wasn’t much of a consensus going on among the remaining movies on the lists. Lots of movies with just one or two entries. I think we’ve got a pretty clear idea about which superhero movies are considered the absolute worst.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 6, 2019 18:09:13 GMT
YESSSSS!! I'm honestly surprised that X-Men Origins: Wolverine didn't make the cut. And Howard the Duck is better than Green Lantern? HTD is some next level garbage lol. Also, no Thor: The Dark World. I feel like I could watch Fantastic Four 2015 over Steel though. An interesting list. Thanks for doing this! Realistically, after Electra there isn’t much difference in the placement of the movies #7 thru #10. They just made the list by a narrow margin. Electra #6 had over twice as many points as #7. Wolverine’s presence in these lists was minimal. It might be bad, but it doesn’t appear to be top ten bad. Thor: Dark World may be the worst MCU movie, but it is still light years away from appearing on a list like this. My own personal surprise was that BvS didn’t make the top ten. It just missed.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 6, 2019 16:36:35 GMT
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Post by damngumby on Jan 6, 2019 16:32:16 GMT
Same rules apply from this thread. 10 top lists, 10 top (worst) movies. The Results ... #1 Catwoman #2 Batman & Robin #3 Supergirl #4 Fantastic Four 2015 #5 (Tie) Steel, Superman IV #6 Electra #7 Captain America 1990 #8 Green Lantern #9 Howard the Duck #10 Spawn Catwoman really ran away with this. It was the only movie to appear in all ten lists and racked up the most points, by far. Batman & Robin was a "respectable" 2nd. It appeared in 9 lists and has a solid points lead over #3. #3 thru #6 were all grouped fairly close together after a sizable drop in points from B&R. They appeared in the majority of the lists. #7 thru #10 were also grouped close together following another sizable points drop from Electra. They only appeared in a few lists. Seven DC Four Marvel One Other No MCU movie made any list. From the DCEU, BvS and Suicide Squad made a few lists, but couldn't crack the top ten. Once again, it was looking like X-Men would be a no show but they managed to squeak onto a few lists at the end with Wolverine and X-Men Apocalypse. So there you have it. When it comes to making terrible superhero movies, DC is considered the worst ... by far.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 6, 2019 15:15:09 GMT
Non superhero movie fans would naturally be excluded from any discussion about superhero movies. You don’t ask a vegetarian which hamburger is best. Ok so you are just saying that superhero fans who don't like MCU films are the "abnormal ones" because you have run the movies through your patented popularity data cruncher and determined the the MCU are factually considered the "best"? , Right?? Yes. (Slight modification to your statement in bold)
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Post by damngumby on Jan 6, 2019 11:42:51 GMT
The problem is if you did this with the Worst Superhero movies, MCU would probably be heavily featured. There is no “probably”. It is not. Fact. Just Google “worst superhero movies” and you get a bunch of lists. See for yourself. Looks like DC and the DCEU really clean up in that catagory. No sign of a MCU film anywhere.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 6, 2019 11:30:22 GMT
I am establishing an objective fact about what the popular opinion is. Popular works of art are judged by subjective popular opinion. If your opinion differs significantly from the norm, then by definition, your opinion is abnormal. Case in point would be someone who declares that The Avengers, Iron Man, Winter Soldier and Logan are terrible movies. That person’s opinion is abnormal. I know a huge number of people who would consider any film featuring superheroes to be terrible and a complete waste of time to go see. I don't feel them to have any kind of "abnormal" opinion. I may not agree with the them, but there is nothing abnormal about it. Non superhero movie fans would naturally be excluded from any discussion about superhero movies. You don’t ask a vegetarian which hamburger is best.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 6, 2019 2:20:05 GMT
Lol, the effort trying to make something objective out of something subjective. Put a bunch of subjectives together and it's still subjective, even if you find numbers to back it up, what someone or a bunch of someones prefer, and the amount they prefer won't make someone else's opinions wrong. Someone will always find some other subjective measure to declare something the "best". But thinking it becomes "fact" for others to bow to is the definition of egocentrism. I am establishing an objective fact about what the popular opinion is. Popular works of art are judged by subjective popular opinion. If your opinion differs significantly from the norm, then by definition, your opinion is abnormal. Case in point would be someone who declares that The Avengers, Iron Man, Winter Soldier and Logan are terrible movies. That person’s opinion is abnormal.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 6, 2019 1:00:01 GMT
Robert Downey Jr is the Tom Brady of superhero actors.
The GOAT.
Unfortunately, all good things must end.
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