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Post by damngumby on Jan 4, 2019 6:16:46 GMT
This is either a blessing from our dear lord, or its the one of the signs of the Seventh Seal opening up to unleash terrible, terrible apocalypse upon all the Earth...
...King Kong Brady liked Aquaman… Why does that surprise you? According to some DC fans (ok, maybe just one) it was so MCU-like that critics actually thought it was made by Marvel! I’ve also said that WW was a good superhero movie. Most of the criticisms I’ve expressed about WW are more along the lines of counter programming to all the worship that was going on ... before it got all those Oscar nominations. The best way to silence critics is to make a good product. Wonder Woman was good, Aquaman was better. A couple more like those two and we can begin to wash away the foul taste of BvS, Suicide Squad and Justice League. I also find it amusing that Aquaman is going to be the DCEU’s biggest hit and the defining DCEU movie moving forward. You just know they’re rewriting Wonder Woman 2 to be a comedy, as we speak. Leaving DCEU fans lost, confused, unsure, perplexed, disorientated and bewildered.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 3, 2019 22:56:51 GMT
Nolan has not directed any movie with an ensemble cast as huge as CW or IW that convinces me he can do a better job at it than the Russos. An interesting exercise ... trying to imagine a Russo TDK and a Nolan IW. Assuming they both had the same script, budget and cast to work with, I can very easily see a Russo TDK that was every bit as good as Nolan’s. I also think Nolan would struggle with managing the large MCU universe ... and I’d be afraid there would be too much Interstellar in a Nolan IW. Both are tops at their craft. We’re just picking nits at this point.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 3, 2019 12:56:40 GMT
Now that James Wan has delivered a spectacular underwater epic, an MCU Prince Namor movie would just look like a bad rip-off. Looks like there’s plenty of room for improvement!
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Post by damngumby on Jan 3, 2019 9:42:53 GMT
Hmmmm ... that’s a tough one. It all depends on how you weigh each entry. According to the research I did in another thread;
TDK is the best of the bunch. Followed closely by BB, TWS, CW and IW. TDKR is kinda the Fredo of the bunch.
The Nolan movies have the highest and the lowest points, while the Russo movies are consistently great. It would be wimping out to call it a tie, so factoring in that it was more Heath Ledgers performance and less Nolan’s effort that elevated TDK above the others, I’m going to give the nod to the Russo Brothers.
A couple other contributing thoughts ...
We’re really only half way through the Russo’s magnus opus. When Infinity War concludes it will undoubtedly be the greatest, most ambitious, and most successful superhero movie(s) ever made. Does anyone (excluding the retarded among us) seriously doubt that for a second?
The Russo’s have done a brilliant job working within a Marvel universe that is populated by many different superheroes. Nolan took the easy approach and jettisoned all of the DC universe so he could create a believable place to tell his Batman story. The moment you introduce a flying alien or a guy that talks to fishes, the Nolan Batman universe collapses in a fit of giggles.
Hmmm ... maybe it’s not so tough after all. Russo’s, easily.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 3, 2019 3:07:14 GMT
66%? You do realize that 66% is a D, don't you? Heck, even with something with a low bar to pass, like a driving exam, you still need 70% to get your driver's license. What ever you say, cupcake!
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Post by damngumby on Jan 3, 2019 1:36:14 GMT
This was already explained to you so I don't know why you're asking again.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 3, 2019 0:59:02 GMT
Each is a different and separate franchise. Do you understand that now? Or do you need me to explain it to you again? OK, so now that we've established that the TDK trilogy is a franchise and different and separate form all other DC movie franchises, let's get back to the point. And the point is the TDK trilogy is universally regarded as the best superhero movie franchise ever. So the answer to the question "Who makes the best superhero movies?" is obviously DC since DC made the TDK trilogy, which is still universally regarded as the best superhero movie franchise ever. Pointing out when Alway Wrong contradicts himself over multiple posts is like shooting fish in a barrel. Pointing out when Always Wrong contradicts himself in the very same post is like ... uh ...
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Post by damngumby on Jan 2, 2019 23:33:59 GMT
at least I am consistent. Consistantly wrong is not a virtue. Just ask the poster known as Always Wrong. What planet are you on today, fella? You’re posting that drivel in a MCU fan thread that relies on 10 different sources. Go ahead, label them all bullshit ... like you’re labeling all the film awards, bullshit ... and all opposing views, bullshit. I need a good laugh.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 2, 2019 12:54:07 GMT
so nolan movies by default are better. Nolan movies isn’t a catagory. They are grouped in with the other DC movies. If you want to separate the Nolan movies from the rest of DC, then individually they both fare even worse in the OP analysis. There is strength in numbers. DC as a whole benefits from the inclusion of S:TM and TDK together. But, if you really want to separate them, then the Nolan movies hang onto 2nd place and DC drops into the loser group. Fine by me, either way.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 2, 2019 12:29:19 GMT
Those aren’t the categories established in the OP. I don’t see any self-proclaimed 20th Century Fox fans or Sony fans around here ... do you? What did I say about your personal opinion? Tell it to your mom ... if she cares.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 2, 2019 11:51:41 GMT
There's no such thing as the "DC franchise". DC has a Superman franchise, a Batman franchise, a TDK franchise, a Wonder Woman franchise, a DCEU franchise. But there's no such thing as a "DC franchise". And the TDK franchise is universally considered to be the best superhero franchise ever. So this thread is another failed bait thread by the OP. Yes, all DC movies since Superman: The Movie are basically 1 big franchise so this board should probably be called DC Movies or DC Multiverse. Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy and the Christopher Reeve Superman movies are all part of DC's movies so why should they not be included with the other DC movies? Like shooting fish in a barrel ...
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Post by damngumby on Jan 2, 2019 4:21:36 GMT
Really good movie. Probably the best animated superhero movie I’ve seen since The Incredibles. Better than The Incredibles in some ways. Made me think of the first time I watched Akira.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 2, 2019 4:06:45 GMT
I’ve seen Aquaman (64%) and Spiderman: Into the Spider-verse (97%)
Spider-Man is, by far, the better movie. Like, light years.
During my research for another thread, I noticed it has already appeared in a few top ten lists. So in that regard, Rotten Tomatoes is spot on.
This anti-DCEU bias you all are complaining about is kinda pathetic. Really. I mean, if there ever was a franchise that deserved a negative bias, it’s Transformers, but Bumblebee managed to transcend all that. Aquaman was a step in the right direction for the DCEU, IMO. Just don’t backslide and crap out another Justice League, or Suicide Squad, or BvS, and you’ll be just fine.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 2, 2019 3:30:33 GMT
LOL. Is Guardians of the Galaxy a franchise? Iron Man? Ant Man? Sequel ≠ Franchise Try thinking for yourself for a change. You might be able to avoid these blunders that put you on the wrong side in deflate-gate.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 2, 2019 3:12:17 GMT
And ... I liked it! Much more than Wonder Woman. I mean, it was goofy as all get up, but I found myself laughing with it more than at it. I can’t really think of anything that made it a particularly “good” movie ... maybe it was a case of reduced expectations ... but it put a smile on my face, and that’s a win in my book.
I would definitely put Aquaman as the best DCEU movie so far and a worthy template for that franchise moving forward.
There is nothing wrong with being the court jester, as long as you're a good court jester. Aquaman is.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 2, 2019 2:52:16 GMT
So this is another failed bait thread by the OP. If this is a bait thread then consider yourself hooked, hauled and processed for fertilizer.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 2, 2019 2:43:05 GMT
Even if there are better individual movies outside the MCU, as a series as a whole no superhero series can compare. The most respected and revered superhero franchise of all-time is definitely The Dark Knight. All 3 movies have an IMDb rating of 8.3 or higher and all 3 movies are in the IMDb top 116. Even on RT (which MCU fans love to use as a metric), all 3 movies have an RT rating of 84% or higher. No other superhero series, including MCU, can compare or even come close to The Dark Knight franchise. Triology ≠ Franchise You really need to work on your English vocabulary, champ.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 2, 2019 2:37:01 GMT
Was Orm fatally wounded at the end of his fight against Aquaman? Orm wanted to be killed, just like Killmonger did. But Arthur didn't execute him because true heroes don't execute defenseless opponents who are no longer fighting back. Only in the Saturday morning cartoons. Where Aquaman belongs.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 2, 2019 2:27:56 GMT
The MCU doesn't have any home runs. The MCU plays it safe and tries for singles only. As your personal opinion, unsupported by any evidence, I will file it away where it belongs.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 2, 2019 2:20:40 GMT
Chris Nolan. Neither Marvel, Fox, Don't or DC/WB have top Nolan. Chris Nolan is arguably the singular element that elevates DC to 2nd place. Without his input DC would fall to a very weak 3rd place behind everything Marvel. DC fans would be reduced to reminiscing over a 40 year old movie that hasn’t aged very well. Almost as pathetic as Dallas Cowboy fans reminiscing about the last time they were in the Super Bowl.
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