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Post by scabab on Jul 13, 2019 15:15:45 GMT
Because he's young, inexperienced and the drone strike was obviously unintentional.
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Post by scabab on Jul 13, 2019 15:09:22 GMT
You're going off track. You brought up four original plot holes of which none were plot holes.
Now you're going on about Captain America even though he has nothing to do with the movie and he's an old man anyway.
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Post by scabab on Jul 13, 2019 15:06:24 GMT
But MCU will probably retcon that in the next movie. No they've already said the next one will revolve around it.
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Post by scabab on Jul 13, 2019 11:38:56 GMT
It’s not plot holes so much as horrible plotting and SHIELD gets more moronic and evil by the film. SHIELD don't exist anymore. It'd be Nick Fury if anyone was to blame but then that's not full on true either considered the credits scene. It would also be in Nick Fury's character anyway because he was always meant to be the character who would do whatever it takes to get the job done which has lead to certain conflicts in the comics too.
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Post by scabab on Jul 13, 2019 11:31:15 GMT
By contrast, MCU Peter doesn't have any problems. Well he does now, the whole world knows his identity and thinks he's a murderer.
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Post by scabab on Jul 13, 2019 2:00:12 GMT
They really wasted this one. I don't know why they decided to dump it as a TV show.
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Post by scabab on Jul 13, 2019 1:16:30 GMT
The Raimi Spider-man movies had something special to them that the others haven't had.
I think it's because it wasn't all just about Spider-Man. Most these superhero movies revolve around the hero taking on the villain and that's about it.
But the original Spider-Man movies were also about Peter Parker and his relationships and his life too.
It was that which made the movies popular with females as well unlike other superhero movies at the time and was why those movies were so much more successful than any other superhero movie back then.
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Post by scabab on Jul 13, 2019 1:09:07 GMT
Spider-Man is able to assist in more ways than just firing webbing. Against the Water monster he was given the impression that he was helping by saving lives and also by luring the monster to another location. Webs aren't really useful against Sand monsters either but he did just fine using other means in Spider-Man 3. So that's not a plot hole.
You're second point isn't even a plot hole either so forget that one.
Third point, again that's...also not what a plot hole is... Someone thinking it's better to go to Prague than Paris isn't a plot hole in any way.
And for the last one, the event in Prague is called the Festival of Lights which apparently takes place in October. I don't when the movie was supposed to take place but even if it was Summer...this isn't a plot hole either.
A plot hole is defined as
"an inconsistency in the narrative or character development of a book, film, television programme"
A movie that's set in a different universe having a festival on a different month to when we have it in our real life world isn't an inconsistency within the narrative. It's trivia, a useless nitpick.
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Post by scabab on Jul 12, 2019 15:52:11 GMT
Deadline says a second weekend in the low $40 million range. So should be around $270 million domestic and probably over $750 million worldwide by Sunday.
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Post by scabab on Jul 12, 2019 12:05:40 GMT
Nah for me it's Rocky 1-4.
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Post by scabab on Jul 11, 2019 13:15:56 GMT
The 2002 film made over $400 million Domestically, which is good, but look at the 2 and 3. There's definitely a drop in the domestic. I just find it odd that Spidey hasn't been pushing at least $400 million Domestically, given that he's a popular character. I suppose like the first Batman and Superman, the original movie will be the most successful because it's never been done before. Age of Ultron dropped off a lot from the first too. Spider-man 2 didn't drop too badly really especially compared to Batman Returns. Spider-man 3 opened just as good but the poor reception and that Shrek 3 and Pirates of the Caribbean 3 opened the same month caused that to drop again. Then the franchise fatigue starts to kick in and The Amazing Spider-man retold the origin story all over again, it was also sandwiched in between The Avengers and The Dark Knight Rises. Then the second one got a poor reception so another drop. But yeah this probably won't make as much as Captain Marvel even though that character isn't nearly as popular as Spider-man.
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Post by scabab on Jul 11, 2019 11:14:55 GMT
Is Spider-Man not that popular in North America? Because I've noticed that every Spider-Man film has had a low domestic box office. The Raimi movies were massive. All three of them made the opening day record and two of them made the opening weekend record. The only reason Spider-man 2 didn't was because it opened on a Tuesday. With inflation the first two are in the Top 10 most successful superhero movies, the original not far off from Infinity War. All three did better than any Iron Man or Captain America movie. The Amazing Spider-man movies didn't do very well though. From Spider-man to The Amazing Spider-man 2 they did keep making less and less money. They've seemed to be on the up since. This new one could make $400 million, it's running ahead of Guardians of the Galaxy 2 so far. Also for the Spider-man PS4 game it says "In the United States, Spider-Man sold 3.3 million units—including those bundled with the PS4 console—in its first three days of release, making it the fastest-selling first-party video game release in Sony's history, narrowly beating another PS4 exclusive God of War's 3.1 million sold in May 2018."
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Post by scabab on Jul 10, 2019 23:52:38 GMT
You know I was surprised they killed Mysterio off.
Homecoming had Vulture, who remains alive. A (awful) Shocker who remains alive. Mac Gargan was in there as well.
They could have kept Mysterio alive and they'd have had a good four villains towards a Sinister Six.
They could introduce another one or two other villains in Spider-Man 3 like Kraven and then by Spider-Man 4 we could have had the Sinister Six.
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Post by scabab on Jul 10, 2019 22:11:35 GMT
You don't need to be so hostile dazz. Ease up on the insults. This is a friendly joyous place.
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Post by scabab on Jul 10, 2019 20:41:27 GMT
I agree, the "Just a girl" song during one of the fight scenes was pretty poor.
It was a decent enough movie but a low tier MCU one. Not the worst though.
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Post by scabab on Jul 10, 2019 12:36:58 GMT
Seems dubious. Considering the failure of The Amazing Spider-Man series and that the movies had been progressively making less money domestically ever since the first one. Then being with Marvel is definitely in their best interest.
Still it looks like it's probably going to hit $1 billion just fine so it won't matter either way.
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Post by scabab on Jul 9, 2019 15:07:37 GMT
Peter Parker was 15 in Civil War and he was supposed to be specifically young amongst the group. Scarlet Witch obviously isn't as young as he is and is most likely in her 20's.
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Post by scabab on Jul 9, 2019 9:25:58 GMT
Vulture Doctor Octopus Mysterio
Green Goblin The Lizard Green Goblin (Harry Osborne)
Electro Venom Sandman
The bottom three could be juggled around. They were all forgettable or disappointing.
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Post by scabab on Jul 8, 2019 23:37:55 GMT
Your a Fox shill, at least Deadpool 1 and 2 are unashamed Fox films unlike Bryan Singer Is that you Sam?
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Post by scabab on Jul 8, 2019 23:36:00 GMT
Did Mysterio have any scene as good as the scene in the car at the prom? As a human character, no. His best scene was probably the one where he sat and talked with Peter on the roof. As the alter ego though, I'd say that the whole sequence with Peter caught in the illusion with the zombie Iron Man was better than any scene featuring the Vulture. As a villain, I think Mysterio and what he could do was more unique and interesting than Vulture who was really just a B level Iron Man with wings. But Michael Keaton's performance was definitely better than Jake Gyllenhall's. Not that there was anything wrong with him but Michael Keaton's character was just more compelling.
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